WR Depth?

[Guest]

If Camp is truly injured long-term, I think they promote Butler from the PS. However, there is no news to suggest Camp is seriously injured. 

 

There aren't any FA WRs worth a roster spot. 

 

Seriously injured and a Campanaro injury are different things.  He just seems brittle and minor type injuries hang with him. Too many instances of snap, crackle, pop.  He is not going to play consistently for us.

[Guest]

At this point, I think we should look into making a depth move, we were down to Waller, Brown, and Aiken at the end of the Steelers game. Some guy with decent speed at least would be nice

 

Waller has decent speed.  He made his first catch and showed it briefly. He's fast.

 

He also was behind the corner when Flacco decided a front shoulder ball on a line was the correct ball path.  Waller could have made a better effort, though he's learning....Flacco puts that one up high and Waller's got it.  A back shoulder throw wouldn't have been bad either, but that's not what occurred.

Edited October 2, 2015 by Danny D

[frozen joe flacco fan]

This is obvious Sarcasm, Alshon Jeffrey is not on the trading block. I find it comical that anyone would suggest because the Bears dumped some less premier players, that they would dump one of their best players.

Even if they were, he was a top draft pick, and would command multiple 1st rounders to acquire.

 

Reggie Wayne is not an answer. The only available player I would consider is Lloyd, and possibly Meachem (though I really liked his potential as a rookie, he wasn't able to do much when he was with Brees)

 

I'm OK with your choices. The point is we need help right now especially if Campanaro can't go and we know now that Perriman will be out indefinitely. Brown and Aiken are adequate role players but not consistent enough to be the #2 & #3 receivers. Some fans think speed is a wide receiver's greatest asset. Receivers also need competitiveness, concentration, confidence & consistency --- the same things a professional golfer needs. SSS and Anquan Boldin aren't the quickest but they rate high in the other four Cs. 

Edited October 2, 2015 by frozen joe flacco fan

[52520Andrew]

Waller has decent speed. He made his first catch and showed it briefly. He's fast.

He also was behind the corner when Flacco decided a front shoulder ball on a line was the correct ball path. Waller could have made a better effort, though he's learning....Flacco puts that one up high and Waller's got it. A back shoulder throw wouldn't have been bad either, but that's not what occurred.

I don't care how good Waller could be, the point of my post was that only having 3 healthy WRs is not a good thing and we should look into adding another healthy body. Last I checked, Waller isn't the offensive equivalent of Barry Church.

[Kid87]

So if Camp is out

1. Smith

2.kamar

3. Marlon

4.waller

5.BUTLER

Hmmm we need 1 more WR..

[gtalk12]

Waller has decent speed.  He made his first catch and showed it briefly. He's fast.

 

He also was behind the corner when Flacco decided a front shoulder ball on a line was the correct ball path.  Waller could have made a better effort, though he's learning....Flacco puts that one up high and Waller's got it.  A back shoulder throw wouldn't have been bad either, but that's not what occurred.

 

 

That was not a good throw to be honest, I think he could have had a chance if Flacco threw it the right way....the way it was droppped....by Lee Evans................smh

[Maryland]

Other than the fact he was seen in a wheel chair.

Still not sure why Reggie Wayne chose to leave New England , first I heard they cut him then I heard he asked for his release. Haven't heard anything else about it but not sure why he wouldn't want to play for New England catching balls from Tom Brady unless he was going to retire. Odd situation, but his vet experience would be a plus.

I also think we may give Wes welker a look to fill in for camp in the slot. Not a big fan of his but he is a veteran and has pretty good hands. He can pretty much do what camp was able to do. Not many other options unless we just promote from within.

Jeremy butler will probably get brought up, but Ross is an option too since we need to fill camps KR spot. Don't know much about him either though. A big name being aquired via trade would be nice , but either way it's pretty safe to say we have to do something.

Camp left the field himself without even taking an injury timeout. Paul Pierce once left a game in a wheelchair and came back minutes later. It's just a precaution. 

 

Sounds like Camp was only having back spasms anyway. The rumors of his demise were greatly exaggerated. 

[HrdCoreRaven]

Here one right here when he was with The Patriots back in 2013 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/26/report-patriots-got-tired-of-brandon-lloyds-behavior/

Honestly Lloyd a talented receiver but he's 34 years old and hasn't played football in months now. If The Ravens had interest in him they would have to hope he is in game shape and Lloyd would have to get up to speed with the playbook... The Ravens don't have alot cap space to trade for a player that most likely making more than 2 or so million right now and if Camp can't play before the next game then the need for a returners is strong.

I can see them simply promoting Jeremy Ross to active roster whom has experiences as a returner and enough speed to make plays deep.

He is definitely worth bringing in, he was productive last year. Trying to rely on the guys we have is a bad idea.

[Guest]

I don't care how good Waller could be, the point of my post was that only having 3 healthy WRs is not a good thing and we should look into adding another healthy body. Last I checked, Waller isn't the offensive equivalent of Barry Church.

barry who?

 

nah......don't care about that1

[-Truth-]

barry who?

nah......don't care about that1

It's an inside joke.

[-Truth-]

I won't lie, I was secretly hoping we'd make a move for Rashard Matthews when he was looking like the odd man out as it probably wouldn't have taken much back then, but it didn't seem likely at all given that we had multiple players competing for roster spots and the injury time table wasn't as prolonged.

Edited October 3, 2015 by -Truth-

[Purple_City39]

So if Camp is out

1. Smith

2.kamar

3. Marlon

4.waller

5.BUTLER

Hmmm we need 1 more WR..

I don't know that we need a 6th.  We honestly wouldn't need a 5th if Trestman would use the TEs more.  This may be the best receiving TE corp we've ever had and to make it better, 2 of the 3 are pretty good blockers.

 

Now if you mean a better WR to replace one on that list then I agree

[JoeyFlex5]

as of now, our wr corps is this... 

 

1. aiken 

2. brown 

3. waller 

 

thats it, we have 3 healthy receivers right now, and i dont trust any of them. who gets brought back on board? daniel brown or jeremy butler? butler had the most horrific preseason ive seen since tandon doss when he ran the wrong route almost every time he stepped on the field, id rather see daniel brown honestly. 

 

if we were to field any of these 3 with a 2TE set than there is one thing we certainly dont lack, and thats size, figure it out trestman, theres 1 way to even attempt to run this lineup and supposedly its what you excel at. 

 

if this lineup fails because the wr's are bad, it will be obvious, if it fails because trestman isnt calling the plays, it will be obvious. basically, we'll know who to blame, while im not trestmans biggest fan id be willing to bet the wr's are gonna fail.

[redrum52]

Maybe this is why they limited Camps snaps... Great when he's on the field though. Very reliable. Would love for him, Perriman, Pitta and Smith to be on the field at the same time with a healthy o line.

[jazz1988]

I won't lie, I was secretly hoping we'd make a move for Rashard Matthews when he was looking like the odd man out as it probably wouldn't have taken much back then, but it didn't seem likely at all given that we had multiple players competing for roster spots and the injury time table wasn't as prolonged.

 

I thought about that too but figured he was just another possession receiver which The Ravens already have. He's playing quite well so far for The Dolphins.. The Dolphins have alot  of solid depth at wide receiver  and wish we could get Kenny Stills from them but  I doubt they give him up .

[-Truth-]

I thought about that too but figured he was just another possession receiver which The Ravens already have. He's playing quite well so far for The Dolphins.. The Dolphins have alot  of solid depth at wide receiver  and wish we could get Kenny Stills from them but  I doubt they give him up .

I'll admit in that it was a slightly biased concept; I was high on Matthews when he played at Nevada. He put up over 1,300 yards and 9 total scores in his last collegiate season and I liked his tape. I felt that he could be a No.3 option in the pros, if not a No.2 at some point. He is more of a possession receiver, yes, and that was another factor that played against the hypothetical. Would've been a solid complement though if Smith Sr. and Perriman were on the field. I wouldn't mind Stills though I haven't followed him at all this season.

[JoeyFlex5]

I'm not denying your evidence at all from  two years ago but what about now?  I just haven't seen Brown in any situation this year  where he had to use his size to make a play.  Brown seems to  be getting most of  his snaps from the slot . I don't think Brown has been great so far but I also don't think he has been bad or terrible either. He has been quite decent but I honestly think if we had a receiver with more speed than it would make things alot more better for a guy like Brown and the other receivers.

 

The only receiver that does have speed is probably Waller but i'm not sure if he's really ready to be a deep threat or should I say I'm not sure if he's ready to command respect as  a deep threat just yet.

marlon brown is horrible, you shouldn't need to pull every excuse out of the book for a wr who has never been good, he's a wr not a qb, h shouldn't need a star studded cast around him to be able to catch a ball. Plus, he can't beat man coverage, and he can barely beat zone coverage because db's can read his cuts from a mile away, a speedy receiver won't help a guy who can't beat NFL level competition, he s just below subpar and that's just how it is.

[jazz1988]

I'll admit in that it was a slightly biased concept; I was high on Matthews when he played at Nevada. He put up over 1,300 yards and 9 total scores in his last collegiate season and I liked his tape. I felt that he could be a No.3 option in the pros, if not a No.2 at some point. He is more of a possession receiver, yes, and that was another factor that played against the hypothetical. Would've been a solid complement though if Smith Sr. and Perriman were on the field. I wouldn't mind Stills though I haven't followed him at all this season.

 

Stills hasn't been productive alot for The Dolphins so far and seems  like he's  their fourth or fifth best receiver at the moment. I like Rod Streater as well and he's been inactive in the past two games for The Raiders but he was their best receiver last year .  He also has some what familiarity  of the offensive scheme The Ravens run since Greg Knapp was his offensive coordinator in 2012 whom has worked with Gary Kubiak in the past and currently.

[Static]

Might have to run more empty backfield with Forsett and TEs out wide.

[jazz1988]

marlon brown is horrible, you shouldn't need to pull every excuse out of the book for a wr who has never been good, he's a wr not a qb, h shouldn't need a star studded cast around him to be able to catch a ball. Plus, he can't beat man coverage, and he can barely beat zone coverage because db's can read his cuts from a mile away, a speedy receiver won't help a guy who can't beat NFL level competition, he s just below subpar and that's just how it is.

 

I think he's decent and servicable but far from horrible.I thought Tommy Streeter was horrible or Justin Harper. I never said he needed a star strudded cast around him to be able to catch a ball. Marlon Brown has only dropped one passes to my understanding . Brown couldn't beat man coverage then he wouldn't have any production period because you not going to make it far in The NFl if you can't beat your man .

[757RavensFan]

If Camp is truly injured long-term, I think they promote Butler from the PS. However, there is no news to suggest Camp is seriously injured.

There aren't any FA WRs worth a roster spot.

There is now, he was just placed on IR.

[Kid87]

SO we're is Givens??

1.Steve

2. Kamar

3. Marlon

4.waller/ Givens

He was 6th on the Rams Depth Chart

Edited October 3, 2015 by Kid87

[1/28/01]

SO Butler or Givens??

1.Steve

2. Kamar

3. Marlon

4.waller

5. GIVENS/BUTLER

You don't trade for a guy to then have him in competition with a practice sqaudder.

[Static]

Our Chance of saving this season died along with all our WRs

[bMore Heathen]

SO we're is Givens??

1.Steve

2. Kamar

3. Givens

4. Marlon

5. Waller

He was 6th on the Rams Depth Chart

Fixed that for you. But I don't know if anyone else pays attention to punt coverage, but Waller has been KILLING it as a gunner. Edited October 3, 2015 by bMore Heathen

[Purple_ICE 81]

Our Chance of saving this season died along with all our WRs

Have faith... Steve Smiths injury doesn't sound all that serious maybe out a few games. Perriman should be back in another 4-6 weeks. And Dennis Pitta is gonna come in and be Gronkin' fools before you know it.

The Steelers should be going downhill fast with Bergerless games against the Chargers, Cardinals, Cheifs, and Bengals on the cusp.

At the very least we HAVE to win the easy games and fight like hell in the harder ones. We could still squeak out a 9 or 10 win season.

[PurpleCity5]

Kamar Aiken is our #1 WR right now, I can't begin to fathom that....

[Cillmatic]

Kamar Aiken is our #1 WR right now, I can't begin to fathom that....

He's Elite... In the playoffs.

[Cillmatic]

First the receivers were dropping balls, now they're just dropping.

[PerpetuallyBored74]

Kamar Aiken is our #1 WR right now, I can't begin to fathom that....

 

SSS is 36, and with the way he's been overused, I'm not surprised that he got hurt. Same with Campanaro with his history.

And if Marlon gets hurt, that wouldn't shock me either. We're too dependent on WRs (and players in general) who are old or injury prone.

 

Thus our current state.

Even if Givens is better than expected, we still need a replacement for Camp. So, who do we turn to: Butler, Welker, Doss, Daniel Brown...our depth is gone. We're down to Aiken, Brown (who's not been that durable), Waller and now Givens.

Even if SSS comes back in just a few weeks, you expect him to play like he has prior to this injury?