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They're talking about Welker who should get nowhere near a football field...ever again!

Wow, didn't see that but still, I feel strongly about what I said as far as Perriman goes. 

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Did anyone else get a chance to see Stefon Diggs yesterday (5 round draft pick)... Imagine how much better this team would be if we would have drafted him in the 5th and possibly a pass rusher in the first

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@JamisonHensley

[fvont=Arial]"Ravens coach John Harbaugh reiterated Breshad Perriman doesn't have a new injury. Been dealing with strained PCL since first day of camp."

Imagine the reactions if/when he comes back, plays, and gets injured AGAIN.
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I enjoy football a lot, and as someone who enjoys it I would not like to see Welker on the field. Health reasons

I would not like to see Welker in purple, period. Wife reasons.

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Did anyone else get a chance to see Stefon Diggs yesterday (5 round draft pick)... Imagine how much better this team would be if we would have drafted him in the 5th and possibly a pass rusher in the first

 

While he played great, there's no guarantee that it would have translated here. There's also no guarantee that he keeps it up for good. I hope he does though, the Vikes look like they are coming up.

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Did anyone else get a chance to see Stefon Diggs yesterday (5 round draft pick)... Imagine how much better this team would be if we would have drafted him in the 5th and possibly a pass rusher in the first

 

Couldn't be any worse than cutting our 5th rounder this year ... 

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Did anyone else get a chance to see Stefon Diggs yesterday (5 round draft pick)... Imagine how much better this team would be if we would have drafted him in the 5th and possibly a pass rusher in the first

We would have taken Shane Ray or bud Dupree over perriman. Apart from that I cant think who would have been available at 26.

PReston Smith?

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Harbaugh quote from yesterday : He's had probably one of the all-time slowest healing sprained PCL's ever .

Also after the Andrews visit :" I'm glad it got confirmed that there was no new injury ".

Hmmm . Interesting comments

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I think he can sit out for Cleveland. Not optimistic for San Francisco. I really hope he can at least be there for Arizona, even if he's limited. It's really bizarre how a sprained PCL keeps you out for this long. 

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I think he can sit out for Cleveland. Not optimistic for San Francisco. I really hope he can at least be there for Arizona, even if he's limited. It's really bizarre how a sprained PCL keeps you out for this long.

imagine both Perriman and pitta suiting up for Arizona during prime time. What a boost that would give to this team and fan base.
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Did anyone else get a chance to see Stefon Diggs yesterday (5 round draft pick)... Imagine how much better this team would be if we would have drafted him in the 5th and possibly a pass rusher in the first

 

People would have gone nutz...  They were screaming as it was for us to take a WR in the 1st round. 

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He re-injured it.

There's no medical staff on the planet that exists that can prevent an athlete from re-injuring it.

With Harbaughs latest update. I thought I'd revisit. Because Harbaugh clearly stated he there was no new injury to the knee, it's just been the slowest healing strained PCL ever, it's the same injury since day 1 of training camp is what he said.

So the medical staff did know his injury, he's just apparently a slower healer than expected and this scope and visit to Dr. Andrews was is in hopes of speeding up healing, rather than a surgical repair. So with all this new information I still stand by the thoughts of why did the team wait 8-10 weeks before having the knee looked at by a specialists like Andrews to decide if a scope was necessary during Preseason ( since no new injury occurred ).

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Did anyone else get a chance to see Stefon Diggs yesterday (5 round draft pick)... Imagine how much better this team would be if we would have drafted him in the 5th and possibly a pass rusher in the first

Did anyone get a chance to see Antonio Brown these past 4 years? Imagine how much better this team would be if we would have drafted him in the 5th round, instead of David Reed. 

 
Sorry dude ... redrafts are fun but pointless. 
 

You are talking about a guy who caught 6 passes for 87 yards in his only game of his life. Who knows, he might turn out to be a steal, but let's not start casting ballots for the hall of fame just yet. 

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Did anyone get a chance to see Antonio Brown these past 4 years? Imagine how much better this team would be if we would have drafted him in the 5th round, instead of David Reed. 

 

Sorry dude ... redrafts are fun but pointless. 

 

You are talking about a guy who caught 6 passes for 87 yards in his only game of his life. Who knows, he might turn out to be a steal, but let's not start casting ballots for the hall of fame just yet.

I agree for the most part, and it's not really the thread for it...but he's only mentioning him bc there were several projections and articles that had us taking him, and it's interesting to see how he panned out just bc he's a home grown product of Maryland. Don't think anybody's putting him on a pedastal , I personally would have loved to have him on this team. Esp in hindsight.
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With Harbaughs latest update. I thought I'd revisit. Because Harbaugh clearly stated he there was no new injury to the knee, it's just been the slowest healing strained PCL ever, it's the same injury since day 1 of training camp is what he said.

So the medical staff did know his injury, he's just apparently a slower healer than expected and this scope and visit to Dr. Andrews was is in hopes of speeding up healing, rather than a surgical repair. So with all this new information I still stand by the thoughts of why did the team wait 8-10 weeks before having the knee looked at by a specialists like Andrews to decide if a scope was necessary during Preseason ( since no new injury occurred ).

Because they are more qualified to make that judgment than any of us are...

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With Harbaughs latest update. I thought I'd revisit. Because Harbaugh clearly stated he there was no new injury to the knee, it's just been the slowest healing strained PCL ever, it's the same injury since day 1 of training camp is what he said.

So the medical staff did know his injury, he's just apparently a slower healer than expected and this scope and visit to Dr. Andrews was is in hopes of speeding up healing, rather than a surgical repair. So with all this new information I still stand by the thoughts of why did the team wait 8-10 weeks before having the knee looked at by a specialists like Andrews to decide if a scope was necessary during Preseason ( since no new injury occurred ).

Health care providers are taught to look to do least invasive treatment first. Invasive treatment is never something that's desired due to complications that result from entering the human body. Surgery is probably the most invasive treatment imaginable.
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Jags game in 6 weeks is what I got circled on my calendar for Perriman, that should be sufficient time for him to heal up and run around a little to get his legs back. Hopefully the stem cell therapy is going to really expedite this process. If he's not back or at least practicing by that point it's definitely time to get concerned.

 

But none of that is going to matter if we don't stay in the hunt, this 4 game stretch is going to determine our season, HAVE to at least go 3-1. Our last 4 games are hell (Seahawks, Chiefs, Steelers, Bengals).. we really have to get on a roll heading into that stretch or we're done for.

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Jags game in 6 weeks is what I got circled on my calendar for Perriman, that should be sufficient time for him to heal up and run around a little to get his legs back. Hopefully the stem cell therapy is going to really expedite this process. If he's not back or at least practicing by that point it's definitely time to get concerned.

But none of that is going to matter if we don't stay in the hunt, this 4 game stretch is going to determine our season, HAVE to at least go 3-1. Our last 4 games are hell (Seahawks, Chiefs, Steelers, Bengals).. we really have to get on a roll heading into that stretch or we're done for.

I feel that we need everyone on offense healthy for that four game stretch.

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Jags game in 6 weeks is what I got circled on my calendar for Perriman, that should be sufficient time for him to heal up and run around a little to get his legs back. Hopefully the stem cell therapy is going to really expedite this process. If he's not back or at least practicing by that point it's definitely time to get concerned.

 

But none of that is going to matter if we don't stay in the hunt, this 4 game stretch is going to determine our season, HAVE to at least go 3-1. Our last 4 games are hell (Seahawks, Chiefs, Steelers, Bengals).. we really have to get on a roll heading into that stretch or we're done for.

 

 

I feel that we need everyone on offense healthy for that four game stretch.

 

 

I don't know if they will be able to wait that long for Perriman without needing his roster spot.  Remember Urban and Pitta are eligible to come back before or around that time.  If Perriman is not ready then they might just IR him.  The good thing about that 4 game stretch is 3 of them are at home

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I don't know if they will be able to wait that long for Perriman without needing his roster spot. Remember Urban and Pitta are eligible to come back before or around that time. If Perriman is not ready then they might just IR him. The good thing about that 4 game stretch is 3 of them are at home

I don't think Perrimans injury will keep him out that long. This has been insane honestly but when has a PCL injury been season ending? I don't see it ending his year honestly, he'll come back soon, it wasn't too long ago when he was in limited practice, if he didn't re-injure it then he should absolutely be back this season, maybe the 2nd half of the year. I also don't see why you'd want to IR who could potentially be your 2nd best WR, especially considering that WR is easily the weakest positional group on the team.

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I don't think Perrimans injury will keep him out that long. This has been insane honestly but when has a PCL injury been season ending? I don't see it ending his year honestly, he'll come back soon, it wasn't too long ago when he was in limited practice, if he didn't re-injure it then he should absolutely be back this season, maybe the 2nd half of the year. I also don't see why you'd want to IR who could potentially be your 2nd best WR, especially considering that WR is easily the weakest positional group on the team.

 

I hope you are right about him returning sooner rather then later, but roster spots are valuable. It is telling they did not IR him after this latest knee scope, so hopefully the doctors and FO have a clearer understanding of when he is coming back.  IF Pitta is cleared and wants to play and Urban is ready, it will give the FO difficult decisions to make on which players get cut to make room

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I hope you are right about him returning sooner rather then later, but roster spots are valuable. It is telling they did not IR him after this latest knee scope, so hopefully the doctors and FO have a clearer understanding of when he is coming back.  IF Pitta is cleared and wants to play and Urban is ready, it will give the FO difficult decisions to make on which players get cut to make room

 

The lost playing time would hinder perrimans growth beyond activating pitta or urban. Perriman needs to get on the field and work out his rookie mistakes now.

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I hope you are right about him returning sooner rather then later, but roster spots are valuable. It is telling they did not IR him after this latest knee scope, so hopefully the doctors and FO have a clearer understanding of when he is coming back. IF Pitta is cleared and wants to play and Urban is ready, it will give the FO difficult decisions to make on which players get cut to make room

I have to agree with Red, you need to give the guy time on the field. Also Im sure there are ways we can free up a spot without IR-ing Perriman. As for Pitta, I don't know if he'll return before Perriman. Has he even practiced yet? He could be weeks away if he decided to return and we don't even know if he's made a decision and In all honestly TE is a position we don't have trouble with. WR is the biggest problem on the team so to me, its not justified to IR your rookie 1st round pick. 

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I do not like the thought of rushing him back before he is ready. I will say, however, that we need his presence in his rookie year is paramount in future success. I say that, because we need to see what we've got and how he plays on the field to determine what we need to work on as far as player development goes. We will have a better idea on what we need to work on in the offseason if we start seeing some of the flaws in his game now.

 

Again, I cannot overstate the importance of not rushing him back. There is no reason to risk the future of our wide receiving corps because of one desperate season. This is bound to happen among any team and we are incredibly young at this position, outside of Steve Smith. I think working Darren Waller and Breshad Perriman into the rotation as well as other young guys like Maxx Williams and Crockett Gillmore, is one of the best things we can do at the moment.

 

If they are all together opportunity we know what we have or at least an inkling of the potential of what could possibly be had. If we find out three of these four have amazing potential or even better 4 out of 4 then that helps us in the draft. Instead of picking a top-flight receiver we now know we can develop in house talent that will fill our needs freeing us up for other needs in the draft.

 

I am NOT going to try to summarize a timetable because I do not see the point. He will be on the field when he is on the field and until then all we are doing is getting ourselves amped up for something that is in the future and is beyond our scope of control.

 

As to him being a bust, that is just laughable. I am NOT saying that I am NOT disappointed that he is not on the field however I do believe that you have to judge a tree by the fruit it bears. Right now we have nothing to judge so we might as well just wait to see what we actually have for labeling this kid and possibly stunting his growth. The way it was handled in the initial reports is up to interpretation from anyone. Did Harbaugh handle it right? Maybe maybe not we actually have no idea what the information to him was given and we have no idea how it was presented to him. Are there some circumstances that seem to be a little peculiar given the instances, yes. I do not understand however that someone whose job is on the line is constantly accused of some sort of subterfuge. That just seems like it would be counterintuitive to what he is trying to accomplish which I am assuming is winning and job security and they are mutually exclusive.

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I have to agree with Red, you need to give the guy time on the field. Also Im sure there are ways we can free up a spot without IR-ing Perriman. As for Pitta, I don't know if he'll return before Perriman. Has he even practiced yet? He could be weeks away if he decided to return and we don't even know if he's made a decision and In all honestly TE is a position we don't have trouble with. WR is the biggest problem on the team so to me, its not justified to IR your rookie 1st round pick. Also, there are other ways to free up roster spots.

 

I would think a guy like Trawick, Levine, Arthur Brown, Orr (cut, move to PS, drop someone off) would be cut for Pitta, and then a reserve D-Lineman will be cut to get Urban on the roster.

 

I dont think the roster spots are at that much of a premium where you'd IR Perriman just to get one of those 2 active. 

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rush him while he has swelling and discomfort in his knee and risk derailing his career before it even starts. 

 

rush him in a season where we in all likelihood wont be going anywhere.. why do it? 

 

squeeze him into the last couple of games? only if he is 100% fully healed, knee injuries are nothing to play around with, especially on a long 6'2" 220 lb guy who runs in the 4.3 range. 

 

the biggest problem here, is that he is the future of our wr corps, and missing out on an entire year of football for someone who has never taken an NFL snap is about as detrimental a thing as i can think of.

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I would think a guy like Trawick, Levine, Arthur Brown, Orr (cut, move to PS, drop someone off) would be cut for Pitta, and then a reserve D-Lineman will be cut to get Urban on the roster.

 

I dont think the roster spots are at that much of a premium where you'd IR Perriman just to get one of those 2 active. 

 

A roster spot was enough of a premium for them to put Campanaro on IR eventhough his injury was only a couple week injury.  If SSS doesn't get hurt I understand we probably wouldn't have put Campanaro on IR, but if we are going to make a run we need as many available bodies as possible.  I want Perriman to play and to learn on the job this year, but they are putting a lot of pressure on him by not giving updates and making it seem like he is healing slow. The kid is more frustrated then anyone I am sure

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