Billick

[bkirha1]

its always interesting hearing him talk about us in retrospect. I will always love Billick...his time had run its course, and im all for harbs, but as a ravens fan, u have to have a soft spot for brian.

He was saying that if we have flacco throw more than 30 times, we lose. Interesting.

[homes500]

that is true cause when joe flacco has more than 30 attempts the ravens struggle on offense they are a team that runs the ball hard.

[Black&Purple]

It seems obvious, if we don't develop the running game we are doomed unless defense plays like they did in Miami again. I liked Billick but am glad he is gone.

[LongLiveBillick]

Interesting. I agree with that though. I think the running game is going to be key. Given the weather and the Titans defense I'm guessing we're going to see a lot of McClain. Hopefully Rice will get in there though...I'd love to see the three headed monster back in place this weekend.

Gotta love Billick though. He did great things here, but you have to like what Harbaugh has done here.

[PIG 20]

What an offensive guru!

All kidding aside, I do think that Billick wasn't given a fair shake at the end of the 2007 season. If he would have beat Miami, I do believe that he'd still be our head coach. But I can't say that I was still all that upset to see him go. He does deserve a lot of credit for being part of bringing this town a superbowl championship. I'll never forget that!

But I still can't help but laugh when he talks about offenses on the NFL Network. I mean, I think he may have had one offense ranked above 20? Maybe?

And the guy can't evaluate QB's for squat! This is the same guy who had Derick Anderson listed as our 3rd string QB! I'm not saying that he is the most incredible QB in the league but he obviously had more talent than Boller. We could even see it during pre-season games.

[Purple Punishment]

Derrick Anderson had one good season and stunk this year....so i guess Billick seen something right. Im only defending him because its true!

[Mobtown]

Any QB who [i]has[/i] to throw more than 30 times is likely to lose. It means his team is playing from behind...

[dan21236]

Is Ray Rice going to be playing this week ?

[Sizzle]

What time is his show and how can i listen to it.

[LongLiveBillick]

[quote name='dan21236' post='122372' date='Jan 8 2009, 04:59 PM']Is Ray Rice going to be playing this week ?[/quote]

He was on the roster last week...apparently he dressed but never touched the ball.

[swiftsilent1]

I really respect coach Billick and if it werent for him Baltimore wouldnt have won a Super Bowl since coming back to the NFL. He is a brilliant organizer and football tactician and I hated to see him go. The decision to let him go may have been the right one at the time because the team had grown tired of his regime. The fresh approach Harbaugh brought this year has motivated the defense and be rid us of the mediocre QB carousel we had to endure for a decade. One thing BB did not know was how to pick a quarterback. Joe Flacco would have probably been on the practice squad had BB still been here. The Harbaugh regime is reaping alot of the good things that Billick built and has added a new look on offense that has immeasurably increased the potency of this current club. I am now sold on the move of replacing Billick but he will always be a great coach in my book.

Go Ravens

[PuRock]

[quote name='swiftsilent1' post='122389' date='Jan 8 2009, 05:40 PM']I really respect coach Billick and if it werent for him Baltimore wouldnt have won a Super Bowl since coming back to the NFL.

Go Ravens[/quote]

And Billick still loves us, since we will be paying out his contract for another two years. He could pretty much enjoy life at the moment.

[72Marshall]

Brian Billick didn't pick any qb...Ozzie did. If Billick is responsible for picking the qb then he was responsible for picking everyother player since he was here;

Ed Reed
Todd Heap
LeRon McClain
Jamal Lewis
Terrel Suggs
Haloti Nagata
Kelley Greg
Derrek Anderson
Bart Scott
etc. etc.

[I*Bleed*Purple]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' post='122350' date='Jan 8 2009, 02:59 PM']Derrick Anderson had one good season and stunk this year....so i guess Billick seen something right. Im only defending him because its true![/quote]


And Kyle Boller had how many good seasons? Hint......one less than Anderson.

[swiftsilent1]

[quote name='72Marshall' post='122398' date='Jan 8 2009, 06:03 PM']Brian Billick didn't pick any qb...Ozzie did. If Billick is responsible for picking the qb then he was responsible for picking everyother player since he was here;

Ed Reed
Todd Heap
LeRon McClain
Jamal Lewis
Terrel Suggs
Haloti Nagata
Kelley Greg
Derrek Anderson
Bart Scott
etc. etc.[/quote]
I didnt say he picked him...I said he never recognized that Anderson was better than ANY QB he had on his roster and relagated him to the practice squad...then the Browns picked him up because Phil Savage knew how good he was...he was one of the ones who drafted him. BB had him in his grasp and failed for whatever reason to play him. It was so obvious he was better than Boller or anyone else at the position, my 8 year old daughter could see it. Come on...

[PIG 20]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' post='122350' date='Jan 8 2009, 03:59 PM']Derrick Anderson had one good season and stunk this year....so i guess Billick seen something right. Im only defending him because its true![/quote]

When your pro bowl wideout drops passes left and right and you have an "aged" running back, the QB is going to struggle. Not to mention your pro bowl TE being hurt for half the season. I think you need to realize that if Braylon Edwards catches that long ball in our "comeback" game, I don't think we win it! How can a QB be successful when their wide receivers drop the game winning TD's? That was a "perfect" pass.

I'm sure the Browns are going to be great with Brady Quinn at QB next year!

Browns finish dead last next year! For multiple reasons though. Quinn will lose both games to Pittsburgh and Baltimore and the Cincy offense will probably be able to outscore the Browns once they get Palmer back. Unless of course both Ocho Crappo and Housh leave then the Browns may have a shot at beating them. Mangini was the "wrong move"! And the stupid owner hires a coach before he hires a GM? The GM is supposed to be very involved in hiring the coach, not the other way around. The owners in Ohio have been in the same league with the Steelers forever yet they can't seem to figure out how to build a team. While the Ravens seemed to take the Steeler blueprint and are a competitive football team since 2000. If you copy what they do, you will have success. We've been doing it for years now and have made the playoffs 5 out of the last 9 seasons and one superbowl victory during that time.

Oh and before you defend Billick, we had 9 starting QB's throughout his tenure with the Ravens. I wouldn't go defending him on his talent for picking QB's. Not to mention being owner of an offense that went 5 games without scoring an offensive TD.

The guy was a great motivator but eventually it wore off. I respect him for bringing us a championship attitude but once that incredible defense was gone, what did he show for the rest of the time he was here? One wildcard playoff win? The whole time we had defenses that could win championships yet our offenses were dreadful.

[PIG 20]

[quote name='72Marshall' post='122398' date='Jan 8 2009, 06:03 PM']Brian Billick didn't pick any qb...Ozzie did. If Billick is responsible for picking the qb then he was responsible for picking everyother player since he was here;

Ed Reed
Todd Heap
LeRon McClain
Jamal Lewis
Terrel Suggs
Haloti Nagata
Kelley Greg
Derrek Anderson
Bart Scott
etc. etc.[/quote]

Please! Give me a break. It was a known fact that Billick was hot to get Boller and we traded away valuable picks to get him. It was also known that Boller was not Ozzie Newsomes first priority in the draft but Billick forced his hand to get him.

Ozzie wanted Flacco and he got him. Now look where we're at.

[ravensgirlx88]

I admire Billick and have ALOT of respect for him as a coach. Its just that I never really got past him leaving me his "autograph" as a tip when I was a waitress at a bar/grille in Westminster. I mean I know its worth some $$ but the guy could have left $2 or something..

But since that has NOTHING to do with football Billick had some great seasons with his. He lead this team to the playoffs 3 times and won a Superbowl. It was just his time.. As it was Cowhers time to leave Pittsburgh.. I think Billick will be back as a coach.. Maybe not this season but soon.

He just wasent the right fit for our guys anymore.. none of us could get past the obsession and confidence in Boller.. YES he has a GREAT arm.. BUT he doesnt have the confidence in himself that Flacco has..& besides.. we LOVE Harbs!


P.S who is HE to say not to let flacco throw the ball? I dont think Kyle went 2 games in a row without throwing an INT.. AND Willis was having a GREAT year running the ball..

[PIG 20]

[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='122583' date='Jan 9 2009, 08:56 AM']I admire Billick and have ALOT of respect for him as a coach. Its just that I never really got past him leaving me his "autograph" as a tip when I was a waitress at a bar/grille in Westminster. I mean I know its worth some $$ but the guy could have left $2 or something..

But since that has NOTHING to do with football Billick had some great seasons with his. He lead this team to the playoffs 3 times and won a Superbowl. It was just his time.. As it was Cowhers time to leave Pittsburgh.. I think Billick will be back as a coach.. Maybe not this season but soon.

He just wasent the right fit for our guys anymore.. none of us could get past the obsession and confidence in Boller.. YES he has a GREAT arm.. BUT he doesnt have the confidence in himself that Flacco has..& besides.. we LOVE Harbs!


P.S who is HE to say not to let flacco throw the ball? I dont think Kyle went 2 games in a row without throwing an INT.. AND Willis was having a GREAT year running the ball..[/quote]

Wow! What a **** move! Even with bad service, I still leave some sort of tip.

[Black&Purple]

He has a point, and is just being honest. We need the run game to set up everything else, and it's who we are. It's no secret, we run the ball, and we win games by running the ball. We need to establish the run to open up more possibilities down field, play actions, etc etc. I think he is right, we've done better when we run the ball more, the Eagles tried just passing all day long and they lost games, then they went back to running and more running and they are on fire now by going back to what worked. Billick lost the respect of the players and lost control of the locker room, that's why he isn't here.

[PIG 20]

[quote name='Black&Purple' post='122600' date='Jan 9 2009, 09:31 AM']He has a point, and is just being honest. We need the run game to set up everything else, and it's who we are. It's no secret, we run the ball, and we win games by running the ball. We need to establish the run to open up more possibilities down field, play actions, etc etc. I think he is right, we've done better when we run the ball more, the Eagles tried just passing all day long and they lost games, then they went back to running and more running and they are on fire now by going back to what worked. Billick lost the respect of the players and lost control of the locker room, that's why he isn't here.[/quote]

Its not that he is "wrong" with the statement its just that he probably wouldn't have followed that same philosophy with this football team had he still been the head coach here.

It's going to hinder completely on our defense once again. If they can keep the Titans to field goals again then we can stick with the running game. But if they are marching down the field on us then we will have no choice but to throw the ball more.

We should be able to hold them "in check". But this is the same team that throttled the Steelers a few weeks ago.

[ravensgirlx88]

[quote name='PIG 20' post='122595' date='Jan 9 2009, 09:24 AM']Wow! What a **** move! Even with bad service, I still leave some sort of tip.[/quote]

I kinda thought so too. Considering Kyle Boller left me $50 and his phone number on a $25 tab!

[PIG 20]

[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='122636' date='Jan 9 2009, 10:37 AM']I kinda thought so too. Considering Kyle Boller left me $50 and his phone number on a $25 tab!


[/quote]

He's no Joe Flacco!

[ravensgirlx88]

[quote name='PIG 20' post='122649' date='Jan 9 2009, 12:05 PM']He's no Joe Flacco! [/quote]

No argument from me there!

[raylewismvp]

We need Rice to get a few screens and a few carries.... Le'ron needs to dominate the carries with about 20 Willis with about 7 and Rice with 5 and about 25-30 passes by Joe Cool

[72Marshall]

[quote name='swiftsilent1' post='122559' date='Jan 9 2009, 07:11 AM']I didnt say he picked him...I said he never recognized that Anderson was better than ANY QB he had on his roster and relagated him to the practice squad...then the Browns picked him up because Phil Savage knew how good he was...he was one of the ones who drafted him. BB had him in his grasp and failed for whatever reason to play him. It was so obvious he was better than Boller or anyone else at the position, my 8 year old daughter could see it. Come on...[/quote]


Well if Savage knew how good Anderson was then why did he trade up to select Quinn?

I wasn't singling you out that was a general response to everyone that claims Billick drafts players.

[raylewismvp]

Ray Rice dose need to touch the ball some