[News] Late For Work 9/30: Don't Get Hopes Up For Alshon Jeffery, Matt Forte Trades

[stixfix69]

It's Steeler week, that's is where our focus needs to be..... Suggs has to show just to aggravate the fans, and tell the guys how to get under their skin.....that's the ticket...

[Barry S]

To win you have to score more points than your opponent, doesn't matter what the defense does. The Ravens defense is giving up a lot of points sooooooo Joe has to work a little harder, Joe had the opportunity but you have to give your receivers a chance to catch the ball not by throwing up floating jump balls. He is a high paid QB he needs to deliver in the clutch especially when your the last QB with the ball with time on the clock.

[JacktheRaven]

I don't get the criticism of Joe in the 4th qt. He gets his team ahead, and the D loses it. Then, he is criticized for not getting his team the lead TWICE in the 4th qt?

[Godfather A]

In both Oakland and against the Bengals, we would not have been in a position for Joe to win the game late if he hadn't gotten us to that position to begin with.

[RavensFootballFan]

Sorry for being a little off topic here but wanted to post this before I forget. Fun facts between Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Did you know that the Steelers drafted Johnny U in 1955? The Steelers released Johnny U before season began that same year, saying he was not smart enough. Guess who was among QBs picked over Johnny U? Ted Marchibroda, the Ravens first head coach. Johnny U played for a semi pro team for $6 a game before coming to Baltimore in 1956 and he nearly could not make it when Baltimore called in 1956 because he had to borrow money from friends to pay for gas for the trip from Pittsburgh to Baltimore. The rest is history, thank you Pittsburgh.

[mason85]

It maybe time for Ozzie to step down and go out on a high note before it's too late. I think

Decosta can handle his job. Just saying.

[rmcjacket23]

It maybe time for Ozzie to step down and go out on a high note before it's too late. I think Decosta can handle his job. Just saying.

Things would be the exact same... where do you think DeCosta learned how to evaluate talent?

[ravensfan2430]

We have 218 yards rushing as a team this year.... and Flacco is the issue?   And the WR's are the issue? Maybe they are a small part, but the issue as I see it, is the OLINE can't block.

 

I will admit that I'm of the opinion that unless you are a top 2-3 RB in the league, a RB success in 95% dependent upon the OLINE.

[HomeoftheBRAVENS]

In time our TE corp will be a problem for the res of the league.Count on it!!

[HomeoftheBRAVENS]

Our team isn't built around the offense or the QB saving the day.I'm surprised Joe is having the success he's been having these last two games with the lack of talent we have at the skill positions on offense.With that being said though,I would still like to see Joe put the team on his back and play a mistake free/flawless game tomorrow night.

[RavensFootballFan]

It maybe time for Ozzie to step down and go out on a high note before it's too late. I think Decosta can handle his job. Just saying.

 

Ozzie to leave on a 3 games losing streak? That's not a high note. Ridiculous to ask the man to leave when he has done so well for a long time, making playoffs 10 of last 15 years is no easy feat in today's NFL, especially in AFC North. In fact, Ozzie did better than the Steelers in last 15 years (Steelers made one less playoffs than Ravens and Ravens won 2 Super Bowls while Steelers won 1). We play in the toughest division the past 15 years. Just because the Ravens are having a poor start does not mean we forget what Ozzie the man has done for us since Ravens been in NFL. We should be on our knees and thanking Ozzie for all he has done as well as ride the storm with him till it is over. He has earned the right to leave on his own terms. Till then, I stand by Ozzie. 

[gtalk12]

Matt Forte on our offense....one can only dream......

 

 

 

Need better defensive plays? Run the ball and keep them as fresh as possible.....who am I kidding lol

[gtalk12]

Our team isn't built around the offense or the QB saving the day.I'm surprised Joe is having the success he's been having these last two games with the lack of talent we have at the skill positions on offense.With that being said though,I would still like to see Joe put the team on his back and play a mistake free/flawless game tomorrow night.

 

I'd argue he is still getting better

[RavensFootballFan]

How do the Ravens benefit from the details being made public?

 

Isn't this whole fan outrage thing about wanting to know information just a pure and simple case of fan selfishness?

 

 

What harm does details do to Perriman and Ravens? Everybody already knows he has a knee injury. Details are given out all the time on other injuries so fans have a good understanding. We all know it is a bone bruise but simply wanted to understand why it is taking longer than normal is all. I am selfish? I have been patient and support Perriman since the beginning and that has not changed. I am thirsting for knowledge of his injury is all. Go find someone else to try to rattle, it did not work with me, I laughed when I read your comment. 

Edited September 30, 2015 by RavensFootballFan

[budman]

Let's face it, Harbaugh's attitude is very understandable. He doesn't comment because he is pissed. He is tired of hearing about a guy who has not even stepped on the field yet. He only hears what he is told and realistically he owes us nothing. He is too busy trying to plan for the players that are actually playing, rather than worry about a guy that he has no idea when he is actually going to play. He is just mad and understandably so.

Edited September 30, 2015 by budman

[Tru11]

It maybe time for Ozzie to step down and go out on a high note before it's too late. I think Decosta can handle his job. Just saying.

 

you consider 0-3 a high note?

[Emanuel2013]

If we get Alshon Jeffery it will be a miracle.

[NJ Raven]

Im pretty sure we took Upshaw a few picks before Jeffery in the 2012 draft, i like Upshaw but wow we would have been set at Wr ozzie needs to cough up a few picks and sign him long term, we would be in better shape this year and the next few years when Perriman returns

[RavensFootballFan]

I hope this team comes together tomorrow. They need to do it for the fans. If I was harbaugh I'd just show them some clips of Ray Lewis to get their blood pumpin. Remind them what the uniform stands for.

 

I agree Ray Lewis can get anyone pumped. Heck, I get pumped while making steak-ums after watching Ray Lewis clips. I think we should leave out Ray Lewis out of respect for today's team, we are undergoing a new transformation and it is a new era, give it time to develope. In fact, I am sure we will have fired up speeches before Thursday's football game from a few or so players, we just won't see it on TV is all. Some players are more comfortable giving out fired up speeches in private instead of on TV. Players get fired up in many ways, sometimes from friends, from family, from their own kids, from their love of Baltimore, some rely on feedbacks from fans, some are already fired up from losing the past 3 games. Trust me, players hate losing the games more than the fans and take it more personal than the fans because after all, they gotta play the game in front of an audience and no player wants to be embarrassed in front of people. Go get'em boys!!!

Edited September 30, 2015 by RavensFootballFan

[bryangraham013@gmail.ocm]

well let's take a look at Flacco, he has just one weapon old Smitty second yr. TE Gilmore and no running game the other WR get no separation at all so exactly what is Flacco supposed to do?

[Fullblack_RAVEN]

The breshad perriman discussion is futile at this point. I'm not giving up on him like some others. I'll just wait until he actually comes back and plays in games to see if it was all worth it. 

 

The ravens won't sign alshon. He's too expensive. They let torrey walk in part because they knew osemele & yanda were going to be up for new deals soon. If the ravens sign an alshon and pay him big $, it'll be at the expense of the o-line. The caliber of joe's weapons won't matter if he isn't adequately protected up front. He isn't good at dealing w/ pressure at all... the FO knows that. Besides, the ravens need to build & maintain their o-line for run purposes as well.

 

The blunt reality is this. If the ravens want to find a quality wr w/o effecting future extensions, they'll need to attain him through the draft. I still like the waller and perriman picks from a HWS & potential standpoint. They need to be developed but have high upsides... well, if they're healthy. The ravens need to go into this draft looking for a mid round technician w/ exceptional speed. Talents like golden tate, randall cobb, ty hilton & emmanuel sanders go in the 2nd and 3rd rounds nearly every draft. IDK if the ravens will go in that direction considering team needs. We'll see if the ravens tackle the draft w/ this in mind.

Edited September 30, 2015 by Fullblack_RAVEN

[BmoreB]

LOL, yeah, just paying money to watch a team play doesn't mean that you should have 100% transparency into what goes on.

 

You'll know when he's ready to play. That's the maximum amount of information we fans deserve to know.

For you to feel as though you deserve nothing more than what you get is just fine, for you, nothing wrong with that. I feel differently and there's certainly nothing wrong with that either.

[RavensFanMania]

Ashton is going to get more than T.Smith got from the 49ers next year when he becomes a FA, do you really think we can afford that???

Jeffrey is worth the money.  T. Smith is not.

[rmcjacket23]

What harm does details do to Perriman and Ravens? Everybody already knows he has a knee injury. Details are given out all the time on other injuries so fans have a good understanding. We all know it is a bone bruise but simply wanted to understand why it is taking longer than normal is all. I am selfish? I have been patient and support Perriman since the beginning and that has not changed. I am thirsting for knowledge of his injury is all. Go find someone else to try to rattle, it did not work with me, I laughed when I read your comment. 

1. You basically just agreed me, since you referenced precisely nothing that the Ravens gain from it. You referenced what YOU gain from it, but this isn't about you.

 

2. Do I need to list the lengthy number of teams in this league who are more secretive about their injuries than the Ravens are? What, do you think they all just do this to make fans unhappy? They don't want their opponents to know any more information about the health of their players than is necessary to fill the NFL's policy.

 

I, for one, wouldn't care if the NFL went to an NHL type classification for injuries. There's two classifications... upper body injury and lower body injury. That's it.

 

Lets call this what it really is... the reason fans want the knowledge is to make themselves feel better. That's it. If it were actually just a bone bruise (which I don't think anybody is buying that), then this board's would be flooded with people claiming that Perriman is soft, damaged goods, etc. (which there already is) for missing over two months with a bone bruise. 

 

Same logic applies if its a much more significant injury than people think it is... all the sudden all the fake medical professionals who have access to the internet will be here telling us their non-clinical diagnosis and explaining how long he will be out.

 

If you've been patient so far, then there's no reason you can't continue to be patient. When he's ready to play, he will play. Might be next week, might be next year. Doesn't matter. I leave those decisions up to the people who are actually qualified to make them.

[The Greek]

i would trade a 2nd and a 5th for jeffery in a heartbeat if chicago was a willing partner our 5th rd picks rarely make the team and we still keep our 1st

[rmcjacket23]

For you to feel as though you deserve nothing more than what you get is just fine, for you, nothing wrong with that. I feel differently and there's certainly nothing wrong with that either.

Cool, and at the end of the day, what either one of us feels about the situation is completely irrelevant, because the organization doesn't care how we feel about it.

 

They share the information with us that they want to share with us, and that's it.

[rmcjacket23]

i would trade a 2nd and a 5th for jeffery in a heartbeat if chicago was a willing partner our 5th rd picks rarely make the team and we still keep our 1st

Why would Chicago do that deal?

[Minionhunter]

Remember Bedard is a New England "guy" he is on 98.5 regularly and we all know that reporters that critizice the Patriots regularly get on their enemies list and that means targeted for unemployment. He is not from their system, but in the "fold". Just remember to take the team political affiliations into account when reading stories from "reporters". It helps to remember who they shill for or are influenced by.

[January J]

There's virtually no chance we bring in somebody like Alshon mid-season.

.....But man wouldn't it be nice. We desperately need to take some weight off of Steves shoulders.

However I agree with jacket- we simply need to play better with what we have. We can add players all day but in the end we have to execute on all sides of the ball- which we have not been doing.

[rmcjacket23]

Remember Bedard is a New England "guy" he is on 98.5 regularly and we all know that reporters that critizice the Patriots regularly get on their enemies list and that means targeted for unemployment. He is not from their system, but in the "fold". Just remember to take the team political affiliations into account when reading stories from "reporters". It helps to remember who they shill for or are influenced by.

True, but 100% of reporters league-wide have some sort of  perceived bias or affiliation with at least one team, so if we take that into account, just about every reporter is just as credible as another.