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I hope we drop the game in pittsburgh. I'm not a bad fan I'm just realistic. This team is decent but not super bowl worthy. We have a good base(Harabaugh flacco, Mosely, Yanda, J Smith) so a down year like this wont destroy us. id rather be picking in the 5-10 range for the draft then 12-18 range for going 8-8.

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Doesn't help when he dropped two balls, so Flacco lost his trust by the end of the game. I don't blame Flacco for not throwing it to the other receivers he has no one to trust except Steve Smith Sr. and even he has made multiple mistakes at the end of games. Yes Flacco had like two bone headed throws at the end of the game, but that happens when trying to crawl back ahead in a game with little time left. I like him throwing the ball away and losing a down rather than an interception. Maxx Williams will be huge this Sunday for us to win. With Crockett Gillmore out and Williams being a solid pass catcher last game. Receivers need to gain Flacco's trust for him to throw it to them, too many drops and it is killing the team. Forsett not producing doesn't help the situation, Trestman needs to realize all our wide receivers are not 6'5 and we do not have Matt Forte in our back field to be doing what he did in Chicago. He needs to start leaning towards our strengths more. 

I like Williams and am looking forward to see what he can do. Hope to see his first career touchdown Thursday night. And second maybe. Dropping balls is an issue, not just for Marlon Brown. He needs to get his .. together, because he IS 6"4 or something and can be an asset, but can't drop any more balls. However, some of the plays I've seen, once he catches the ball, he fights for yardage, so that's a positive. It's an uphill climb from here - needs to redevelop a trusty relationship with Joe. Gilmore is definitely out?

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I hope we drop the game in pittsburgh. I'm not a bad fan I'm just realistic. This team is decent but not super bowl worthy. We have a good base(Harabaugh flacco, Mosely, Yanda, J Smith) so a down year like this wont destroy us. id rather be picking in the 5-10 range for the draft then 12-18 range for going 8-8.

I think this team is play off worthy. Last year if the defense was just that much better we would have been playing Seattle in the Super Bowl. We didn't lose anyone key worthy from last year that we don't have good enough replacements for this year. I think the schedule just got to Baltimore and they need to close out games. They were leading teams you probably would say are super bowl worthy in the fourth quarter. They have the talent they just need a new mind set. And even if they miss the play offs and go 9-7 or 8-8 I would rather have that then them tanking games. They have play makers at every position. If you are good enough to make the play offs you have a good chance of making the super bowl. Ask the 2012 Giants and 2013 Ravens super bowl teams. They have only lost three games and two are on the road which Baltimore is historically known for doing bad in the regular season. They just need to go 4-4 on the road and 6-2 at home to have a realistic chance of making the play offs. If we win in Pittsburgh, I see the next two away games winnable which puts us at 3-3. We could easily be 3-0 at this point. That Cardinals game will be hard because they are hot right now but I guess we will see Thursday night if the Ravens are going to be competing this year.

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The Broncos game. SSS dropped the TD pass, and Gilmore had his hands on the ball. How is that on Joe? The Oakland game. The offense came back and got us the lead. With 2 minutes left, the Defense let Oakland drive the whole field and score a TD. He had 26 seconds and no Timeouts to score. That's on the Defense, not Joe. The Cincinnati game. Joe and the offense gave us two leads and the defense gave it right back. Osemele had the penalty that negated the first down and Joe took his only shot and Williams had his hands on it. Again, that's on the Defense not Joe. O-line penalties hurt us too. Joe and SSS are the only ones keeping us in games.

 

The offense only gave us the lead once, the defense gave us our first lead of 17-14 when CJ Mosely ran back the fumble. 

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I like Williams and am looking forward to see what he can do. Hope to see his first career touchdown Thursday night. And second maybe. Dropping balls is an issue, not just for Marlon Brown. He needs to get his .. together, because he IS 6"4 or something and can be an asset, but can't drop any more balls. However, some of the plays I've seen, once he catches the ball, he fights for yardage, so that's a positive. It's an uphill climb from here - needs to redevelop a trusty relationship with Joe. Gilmore is definitely out?

Most likely out yes they said that he probably won't be ready. So Boyle and Williams will have to be huge. Williams will have a hay day with the Steelers terrible defense. I see a shoot out. Wouldn't be surprised if both teams scored 30 tomorrow. Yes I agree it is the entire receiving core's problem of dropping balls that is why on the last play of thelast game he had 2 or 3 open people but the only people Flacco knew he was going to throw it to was Williams and Smith because of earlier dropped balls. Aiken and Brown have been non factors so far which means we need Williams at tight end to be a threat and Steve Smith needs to keep up his production.

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I don't think Flacco could have hit Brown on that last play. That safety was cheating to Browns side which is why I think he went to Williams. Forsett stood 10 yards short of the first down and didn't push downfield, he just stood there. The defenders had time where he was at to make the tackle before he got the first down. That said, I don't understand the play call. It doesn't matter if it is 4th and 3 or 4th and 13, it always seems the plays don't have anyone just on the other side of the first down marker, every body is way downfield. But I don't want to get on the play calling because what I see is a poor game plan followed up with poor play calling. Other than some odd line formations, the offense is extremely vanilla and isn't pressing any defenses to have to think too much. 3 out of every 4 passes are short passes to a running back, and it wasn't successful in Chicago, why bring the same offense here to watch it be as miserable as Chicago was last year.

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Brown was not even remotely open on that final play. The safety had a perfect route to pick that off if he tried to throw it there, especially given the hang time that the ball would have had throwing across his body and to the opposite side of the field. That was a good decision not to throw that ball. Forsett is not "Hey Diddle Diddle Ray Rice Up The Middle", either. You could check it down to him, but Forsett has shown questionable hands and a weak ability to make plays after the catch. Ray Rice once converted that 4th and 29, but Ray Rice was always a playmaker as the checkdown option, and Forsett has proven that he's really not a threat in that regard. I don't blame Flacco for throwing to a truly open receiver who was past the 1st down marker. It could have been a completion, too, but oh well. If he'd thrown to Forsett, and Forsett didn't get the 1st down, people would be even more critical asking why the heck he threw to a guy 10 yards shy of the first down when he had Maxx Williams open deep for a first down.

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Most likely out yes they said that he probably won't be ready. So Boyle and Williams will have to be huge. Williams will have a hay day with the Steelers terrible defense. I see a shoot out. Wouldn't be surprised if both teams scored 30 tomorrow. Yes I agree it is the entire receiving core's problem of dropping balls that is why on the last play of thelast game he had 2 or 3 open people but the only people Flacco knew he was going to throw it to was Williams and Smith because of earlier dropped balls. Aiken and Brown have been non factors so far which means we need Williams at tight end to be a threat and Steve Smith needs to keep up his production.

You're right about that. In order for Steve Smith to be consistend all through to January (hopefully) it's Marlon who has to step up most. Or as far as I remember, he plays the same side and that's who he shares snaps with. If Marlon can't do his bit, Steve has to be there all those snaps in order to give Flacco options and that doesn't really help anyone. MB has a good rookie year, with 7 TDs and that really really clutch catch at the back of the endzone playing Minessota in the snow, so he has quite something to come back to.

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Agree that Marlon isn't the hard core WR we'd hoped hed be but what's going on with Aiken and Campanero?

If Joe's going to favor SS,Sr and Gilmore, then the rest of the WRs will take plays off, regardless!

Now,... so far, the run game looks eerily like Chicago's w/o a Matt Forte! What happened to "Oh, we're not changing the offense; we may 'tinker' but not change"?

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Given Flacco's position and the direction he was running, there is no way he could have completed a pass to Marlon Brown. Sure interception. Get real.

 

Looking at the still photo, I'm gonna disagree. If Joe would have stopped and planted, I think he could have easily made that throw to Marlon, as long as he put it on a rope and didn't put too much air under it. 

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Trestman offense is making everyone look bad and Joe can't find all his WRs yet or something but to blame Marlon, Kamar and Campy isn't kool because of the play calling! "ROUTES" get WRs open and not just the WRs ability! Let Joe go into his two minute Offense from time to time to build confidence and get them going! LETS GO

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I keep reading people say Flacco lost faith in Marlon Brown, but it was Brown who made a great catch (great throw as well) on 3rd and 21 for the 1st down in the Cinci game. You don't make that throw to someone you don't have faith in. 

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Bummed about no Gillmore this week. Let's hope Williams and Boyle seize their opportunities to make some dynamic plays. All TE's are going to play an important role going forward. Anyone heard how long Gillmore is projected to be out?

well he still hasn't been ruled out for Thursday even though I'm sure he won't play so with the extra 3 days rest I'm sure he will be back for the Cleveland game.
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well he still hasn't been ruled out for Thursday even though I'm sure he won't play so with the extra 3 days rest I'm sure he will be back for the Cleveland game.

All I have heard is that Gillmore has a calf injury so I have no idea how serious the injury is. I hope Gillmore is back for the next game. It seems like the Ravens are reluctant to give out any info, probably to add uncertainty to the opponent's game planning. I am going to be bummed if this injury lasts for weeks so hoping it's minor. Following Gillmore's growth as he makes his presence known in the NFL has been 1 of the bright spots I look forward to this season.
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I'm not sure about Marlon's chances against double coverage by the time the ball arrives. Forsett looks like a good option, but Joe has to lead his to the left sideline in order to 1) make the catch, 2) avoid the LB about 10 yards downfield, and 3) get out of bounds to stop the clock. That's not a cinch. But I wish he would have pump faked to get everyone looking/racing downfield, then drop to Forsett to get the 1st down.

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Absolutely. He committed the penalty that called back the first down and he dropped the pass to Williams.

And he did not play defense Its all Joe fault.

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