Could the Ravens be considering a trade for (insert WR here)?

[OldToby]

Speaking of Marqise Lee, he is out for week 5.

[Guest]

Week 7

 

Don't put any stock in Pittas projected return.

 

The man really should not play football again.

[January J]

The Titans don't have a Thompson either...

Ahh Texans, sorry. Was half asleep.

I just watched him play Thursday night and he put up well over 100 yards.

[PurpleCity5]

Don't put any stock in Pittas projected return.

The man really should not play football again.

It would be nice to have Pitta back, but he suffered that injury in week 3, I think of last season. Thats a long recovery time, which I why I don't anticipate his return. Obviously he needs to think about it but he needs to think about his health and future. Edited October 10, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[rmw10]

Ahh Texans, sorry. Was half asleep.

I just watched him play Thursday night and he put up well over 100 yards.

 

This is incredibly confusing, consider there is no Thompson on either the Titans or Texans, so I genuinely have no idea who you're talking about.

[BmoreBird22]

This is incredibly confusing, consider there is no Thompson on either the Titans or Texans, so I genuinely have no idea who you're talking about.

Is he talking about Hopkins...? Who would never get traded?

[January J]

This is incredibly confusing, consider there is no Thompson on either the Titans or Texans, so I genuinely have no idea who you're talking about.

now I really feel stupid. I dont know why I was thinking Thompson, it was Hopkins. Thought I was losing my mind there for a second.

[BmoreBird22]

now I really feel stupid. I dont know why I was thinking Thompson, it was Hopkins. Thought I was losing my mind there for a second.

You are...

[January J]

Is he talking about Hopkins...? Who would never get traded?

yeah you got it, like I said It was just a random thought considering they are 1-4, have no idea if it would work financially or if Houston would even part ways with him.

[Guest]

It would be nice to have Pitta back, but he suffered that injury in week 3, I think of last season. Thats a long recovery time, which I why I don't anticipate his return. Obviously he needs to think about it but he needs to think about his health and future.

 

I know just enough about anatomy to be dangerous, but Pitta has a ball and socket condition where the ball won't stay in there. It's got to be congenital to some extent.  Injury twice to the same hip is enough evidence.

 

Harbaugh has a tough side, you don't want to cross him, but he also has a compassionate side and I've heard enough from him to believe he really doesn't think Pitta should return.

[BmoreBird22]

yeah you got it, like I said It was just a random thought considering they are 1-4, have no idea if it would work financially or if Houston would even part ways with him.

He's on the third year of his rookie contract and their only consistent receiver. He's averaging 88-125-.6 so far, and that's with Hoyer and Mallet. If only they had drafted Teddy...

It'd cost a first and more picks to take him away

[rmw10]

yeah you got it, like I said It was just a random thought considering they are 1-4, have no idea if it would work financially or if Houston would even part ways with him.

 

Hopkins is their #1 and a damn good one too.  No way they'd move him.

[PurpleCity5]

I don't see Houston trading Hopkins. Hes #1 in Rec. yards and it wouldn't make sense honestly as to why they would do it. We would not only have to give up a hefty draft price but throw in a player as well.

Edited October 10, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[Winchester]

Speaking of Marqise Lee, he is out for week 5.

I talked with my friend whom lives near Jacksonville. The consensus down there, Marqise is a supreme talent that really impressed in practice " when he practices". Most fans and media believe he will challenge Robinson for #1 WR. Both are #1 WR talents whom had injury issues. The fact that media,coaches and fans know marqise will challenge Robinson for #1 WR speaks of his skillset. Because Robinson is on the cusp of breaking out as an elite WR. He has had some injury issues himself. As for Marqise his separation skills and sharp sudden routes and athletic body control is quite the show in practice. His injuries are not major but I do acknowledgeacknowledge of course he is a risk with his many minor injuries. With that said how else would the ravens acquire that type of upside?? They will not find a a WR with #1 skills in round3 easily. If you acquire a mediocre receiver you are not improving the offense. At least not to Superbowl contention. Is not that the goal?? If you get an elite talent there is potential there if he gets going and shakes the injury bug. I like marqise because of his long-term potential and there is not much of a cap hit. BTW jaguars have plenty of young talent at WR, just let them mature. And marqise was just an idea. I doubt they would trade him yet. To much upside.

[JoeyFlex5]

winchester.. thatll be enough of the repeating of "fans in jacksonville say he is really impressive in practice!" over and over. we all were following the draft when we thought he was a possibility for us, we all looked into him, alot of people on these boards are very familiar with lee and his capabilities, but he has shown to be injury prone and he has struggled to adjust to the NFL level because of certain weak spots in his game. he will require a decent draft selection to bring him here and there is a very high risk that his production will never surpass mediocre because of the issues i listed above. 

[-Truth-]

Marqise Lee for President.

[TDubbs]

Theres no WR of significance out there that would make sense to trade for, and any WR that would be is not worth top assets we'd give up. In this league you draft WR's and you have to find them in all the rounds, like the Packers and Steelers do. We simply have not been able to do that well and its been well documented. 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I know just enough about anatomy to be dangerous, but Pitta has a ball and socket condition where the ball won't stay in there. It's got to be congenital to some extent. Injury twice to the same hip is enough evidence.

Harbaugh has a tough side, you don't want to cross him, but he also has a compassionate side and I've heard enough from him to believe he really doesn't think Pitta should return.

You got it. It's a genetic thing with him where the socket is slightly too large so the ball has a proclivity to slipping out. So, they weren't so much freak accidents as they were injuries that were bound to happen.

The good news is that in both occasions no structural damage occurred. So the whole "he should retire so he can walk when he's older" line of thinking is a bit misguided. Neither injury so far has affected his long term health.

The other positive, and this is a bit speculative on my part though I can't see why this wouldn't be the case, with situations like Pittas they have the ability to surgically decrease the opening of the socket or increase the size of the "ball" so that it's far less likely to occur again. If this was done, which I can't imagine why they wouldn't, the probability of it happening to him again is the same as it happening to anyone else.

I think Pitta plays this season and sooner than many think. I wouldn't be surprised to see him practicing as early as next week and hitting the field in week 7 against the Cardinals; or more likely making his debut right after the bye.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I talked with my friend whom lives near Jacksonville. The consensus down there, Marqise is a supreme talent that really impressed in practice " when he practices". Most fans and media believe he will challenge Robinson for #1 WR. Both are #1 WR talents whom had injury issues. The fact that media,coaches and fans know marqise will challenge Robinson for #1 WR speaks of his skillset. Because Robinson is on the cusp of breaking out as an elite WR. He has had some injury issues himself. As for Marqise his separation skills and sharp sudden routes and athletic body control is quite the show in practice. His injuries are not major but I do acknowledgeacknowledge of course he is a risk with his many minor injuries. With that said how else would the ravens acquire that type of upside?? They will not find a a WR with #1 skills in round3 easily. If you acquire a mediocre receiver you are not improving the offense. At least not to Superbowl contention. Is not that the goal?? If you get an elite talent there is potential there if he gets going and shakes the injury bug. I like marqise because of his long-term potential and there is not much of a cap hit. BTW jaguars have plenty of young talent at WR, just let them mature. And marqise was just an idea. I doubt they would trade him yet. To much upside.

Please, when posting something long use paragraphs. Easier to read, and organize your thoughts.

And I think we all understand your desire for Lee. You've made it clear... Reposting the same thing 20x will not make the Ravens trade for him, or convince anyone who disagrees with you to change their minds.

Please do continue to share your opinions by all means, but no need to post the same one over and over and over again. Your position is duly noted by all.

On Lee, knowing 1 Jacksonville fan's opinion does not constitute "all the fans and media." Even if it did, it doesn't mean much because they're often wrong; and from what I've seen from him he's just not a great player. I think he was overrated by many, myself included, coming out of college.

He's at best the #3 guy on their roster and hasn't shown anything to make me believe he'll ever become more than that. We're not in a position to inherit other teams' projects. If we're going to trade a mid round pick it's going to be for a proven commodity; otherwise we'll save the ammo for the draft.

I have no doubts there's a Marqise Lee in the 3rd/4th round of almost every draft. And id rather someone who starts in our program from day 1 than someone who's already struggling and is likely only a couple years from being out of the league or is a career #3 receiver. We have plenty of those already. The only reason to trade anything higher than a 7th or conditional pick is for difference makers right now, and he's just not that.

[Guest Omerta]

I talked with my friend whom lives near Jacksonville. The consensus down there, Marqise is a supreme talent that really impressed in practice " when he practices". Most fans and media believe he will challenge Robinson for #1 WR. Both are #1 WR talents whom had injury issues. The fact that media,coaches and fans know marqise will challenge Robinson for #1 WR speaks of his skillset. Because Robinson is on the cusp of breaking out as an elite WR. He has had some injury issues himself. As for Marqise his separation skills and sharp sudden routes and athletic body control is quite the show in practice. His injuries are not major but I do acknowledgeacknowledge of course he is a risk with his many minor injuries. With that said how else would the ravens acquire that type of upside?? They will not find a a WR with #1 skills in round3 easily. If you acquire a mediocre receiver you are not improving the offense. At least not to Superbowl contention. Is not that the goal?? If you get an elite talent there is potential there if he gets going and shakes the injury bug. I like marqise because of his long-term potential and there is not much of a cap hit. BTW jaguars have plenty of young talent at WR, just let them mature. And marqise was just an idea. I doubt they would trade him yet. To much upside.

 

 

The dude is no Julio Jones or any supreme talent in this league. It is easy to tell that because we would not be discussing him in a what if maybe scenario. The guy has less than 500 yards in 20 games, so lets pause his coronation as the second coming. 

 

 mid round pick would be ridiculous when you take into account what 3rd round picks can get. I think Ozzie knows this and wont waste the draft capital on a guy who can be found in probably the first 4 rounds of next years draft.

[Winchester]

Let's just say I do not agree that marqise will never surpass mediocre production here. Anybody who honestly thinks there is a marqise Lee in every round has never seen pro caliber WRs run routes practically side by side. OK he is struggling with injuries and getting acclimated. So what?? Would he be the first WR that needed a change of scenery to become a #1 WR?? Does it mean the raw talent is not there?? I went through this same thing when I posted under a different name here and kept saying Emmanuel Sanders had pro bowl potential. Of course there are WRs I would prefer over marqise to be traded for. A player injury free and coached up. But there's this thing called a cap. You want a difference maker player you need to either give up a round1 pick, you trade for a guy making $10mil or more per or you find the next Emmanuel Sanders or golden gate player before he breaks out. Is he an injury risk?? Absolutely. If he stays on the field does he have #1 WR talent?? Absolutely!! If the ravens do not find a #1 what are their chances of winning the championship this year?? My opinion it is a worthwhile gamble for a #3 pick. Without a legit shot at the championship there is no point in following football this season. Just look forward to the off season the draft and fixing the teams problems. Look i get it nobody wants to part with a #3 pick. Oz just spent a #1 pick on a WR who is not a feature WR type. More of a role receiver than a 10 catch a game guy. So why the anger over a #3 for a far more skilled receiver?? I'm hoping for Monroe to return and the online play dominant. Steve Smith return, maxx get acclimated, perriman stretch the field and add somebody the potential to be a #1wr playmaker and the ravens enter the playoffs with the offense blazing!! Not to many options to find the #1 WR. Marqise I do believe is a #1 if he can stay on the field and get acclimated with a good qb. I do not know of another the ravens could actually acquire that has #1 WR skills and lead a high octane offense into the playoffs. An offense that could win a shootout with the patsies or packers.

[Winchester]

The dude is no Julio Jones or any supreme talent in this league. It is easy to tell that because we would not be discussing him in a what if maybe scenario. The guy has less than 500 yards in 20 games, so lets pause his coronation as the second coming. 

 

 mid round pick would be ridiculous when you take into account what 3rd round picks can get. I think Ozzie knows this and wont waste the draft capital on a guy who can be found in probably the first 4 rounds of next years draft.

Can find a marqise Lee talent in round4?? Or any #1 WR in Round4?? They have never found a #1 WR in any round!! 500 yards through his first 1 1\4 seasons where he missed several games means he is not talented?? How many WRs did not accumulate yards through their first season or 2?? Most of them!! I would bet if I had time to read your posts I would find you more optimistic over far less talented WRs. Watch all the clips of him you can find and if you disagree with his skills?set I will respect your opinion. Btw are you aware that the ravens were going to draft his teammate with the #26 pick if he were available?? And his teammate is a very skilled receiver but anybody that played with or against the 2 talented WRs will tell you Marqise is the best

WR to attend USC recently. So if they were going to draft his teammate in Round1 I would consider him a bargain for a round3 pick. Wasting draft capital on Marqise Lee?? Yeah because Ozzie has not wasted any mid round picks recently!! Or early round for that matter. Brooks,Elam,Perriman,Brown,upshaw,,gradkowski,Doss,Reed,to name some of them.

[Guest Omerta]

Can find a marqise Lee talent in round4?? Or any #1 WR in Round4?? They have never found a #1 WR in any round!! 500 yards through his first 1 1\4 seasons where he missed several games means he is not talented?? How many WRs did not accumulate yards through their first season or 2?? Most of them!! I would bet if I had time to read your posts I would find you more optimistic over far less talented WRs. Watch all the clips of him you can find and if you disagree with his skills?set I will respect your opinion. Btw are you aware that the ravens were going to draft his teammate with the #26 pick if he were available?? And his teammate is a very skilled receiver but anybody that played with or against the 2 talented WRs will tell you Marqise is the best

WR to attend USC recently. So if they were going to draft his teammate in Round1 I would consider him a bargain for a round3 pick. Wasting draft capital on Marqise Lee?? Yeah because Ozzie has not wasted any mid round picks recently!! Or early round for that matter. Brooks,Elam,Perriman,Brown,upshaw,,gradkowski,Doss,Reed,to name some of them.

I am actually not really all that optimistic about out receivers I like Waller as potential and Perriman is wait and see at this point. That is about as far as it goes. We were going to draft his teammate and true and his teammate who came out a year later has almost rivaled his production. I am not saying that a single injury makes you a bust, but a series of them can sure do it to you. It is not his fault and I am not saying that he has a terrible mindset but much like Campanaro he does some things well and people start a hype machine but really looking at what he can do is just a regular play, but on a receiver starved team it becomes hope. 

 

Campanaro is decent when he plays too, nothing special but he can get open against an opponents 2nd or 3rd guy as can lee,  they make a couple routine plays and then they are injured, never really gaining traction. I just dont see how we COULD not get in the 3rd round and find a guy like this, it happens every year, maybe not to us but it happens. 

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

Right now on NFL.com they are reporting that 3 teams are interested in trading for Roddy White they did not mention the teams by name so I don't know if Oz and the Ravens are 1 of the teams interested.

[Winchester]

You know something omerta, I to was optimistic about finding a featured WR in mid rounds. But WRs are going faster than ever before. My humble opinion, Ozzie needs to stop this nonsense of a makeshift receiver unit and aggressively get Joe some legit weapons. This hype on aiken brown was nonsense. He should have drafted Matthews or Robinson in 2014 and been more aggressive moving up for Hopkins in 2013. And this year he should have been more aggressive in drafting a #1. Cooper may have been to steep a price but am sure our Round1 and Round2 could have got us in position for White. I would give up a role type WR and a TE that is not special for an elite WR like White. I would have traded our Round 1,2 and 4 to draft Cooper. What would they really have lost?? In the long-run they are going to waste more assets on WRs because after using a #1 on Perriman they are going to continue to spend assets on WRs angways whether $$ or draft picks or both!! So it is better to do it right when selecting their feature WR. Furthermore these last 2 drafts were very deep in WRs. This was the draft to take multiple WRs!! 2011 was weak outside the top2 guys. I am a huge fan of Tyler Lockett!! Very savvy slippery explosive slot WR with outside skills as well like Antonio Brown have drafted Robinson last draft and doubled on DTs this year's draft. Through my rambling I am trying to say opportunities were there for WRs but Oz is not using the picks wisely. Sitting at 26 and drafting whichever WR that is left is not likely to yield a pro bowl caliber WR. I am so tired of peeps talking bout Joe Flacco. He has been as good as any QB would with his weapons. Even Brady is a different QB when Gronk is not in the lineup. When he had good weapons around him he performed at an mvp level. Our defense is not going to be dominant this year. If they want to compete for a championship this year then the Oline needs to get healthy and come together and they need to get Joe a legit #1 WR so come playoff time they could win a shootout with anybody. In my humble opinion Marqise does have elite separation skills, very route savvy and great body control and he will catch in traffic. Bortles has trouble timing him because of his sudden explosion out of his breaks. I just can't think of another WR with #1 skills s team would consider parting with that could be had for a round3-4 that won't blow the cap off the salary cap. I am not even sure Jacksonville would trade him even though they have lots of other young WR talent because of his upside.

[Cillmatic]

Time to close this thread. No point in even talking about a trade now.

[PerpetuallyBored74]

Time to close this thread. No point in even talking about a trade now.

 

We should only make a trade if we believe it will help for next season.

Otherwise, don't bother.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

No. Keep the draft picks.

[GrimCoconut]

No. Keep the draft picks.

Agreed. We're much further away than one WR. These injuries are mounting and taking their toll.

[Winchester]

No. Keep the draft picks.

Keep the draft picks for what reason?? Great teams are built through the draft, trades and Free agency. It is knowing when to acquire a talent. Draft picks haven't yielded much to write home about. And in my opinion the offense is a #1 WR and healthy online away from being prolific.