2016 DB Prospect Thread

[BmoreBird22]

I meant trading back to take Alexander is easier said than done. You need two to trade.

I would also like Boyd

I don't know, there's bound to be at least one team that wants VH3, Stanley, Goff, Lynch, etc.

[Dewy101]

well i can tell you mackensie alexander had a 31% completion against for an average of 18+ yards per catch but only allowed 1td what can you tell me from that lol. Not much more....

18+ yards per catch is a ridiculously high number. You're telling me that 1/3 passes is going to go for 18 yards. I'd take that all day.

[January J]

18+ yards per catch is a ridiculously high number. You're telling me that 1/3 passes is going to go for 18 yards. I'd take that all day.

1/3 of the passes that actually get completed. So 1/3 divided by 31%...that's a much lower number.

[Dewy101]

1/3 of the passes that actually get completed. So 1/3 divided by 31%...that's a much lower number.

The third of the passes that actually do get completed go for an average of 18 yards. That's a high number in terms of yards given up.

[January J]

The third of the passes that actually do get completed go for an average of 18 yards. That's a high number in terms of yards given up.

nvm I got you. I was overthinking it.

[PurpleCity5]

I don't think we can even trade down in this years draft. 

[ravefan52]

This DB class is actually turning out to be pretty stacked. VH3, Alexander, Apple with decent depth after that and the best safety class in awhile (even if you count Ramsey as a corner). I hope and think we'll end up with one in the first three rounds. We've been messing around with the secondary too much lately.

[GrimCoconut]

This DB class is actually turning out to be pretty stacked. VH3, Alexander, Apple with decent depth after that and the best safety class in awhile (even if you count Ramsey as a corner). I hope and think we'll end up with one in the first three rounds. We've been messing around with the secondary too much lately.

I agree. This secondary class may be better than I originally thought. The safety class is positively stacked and the best in years. Some won't declare but it'll still be very good. I see Ozzie double-downing.

[January J]

Probably is far easier said than done; trading up for Boyd at least. 

I really think people are making much ado about nothing with a football player. He had a single DUI? Okay, cool. I'm glad he's at least not killing people or blowing up buildings.

 

Would just love to have him.

  

I meant trading back to take Alexander is easier said than done. You need two to trade.

I would also like Boyd

also easier said than done not pulling the trigger on arguably the top corner prospect over somebody who isn't as as polished but may have more potential in the long run.

[RavensFanMania]

   also easier said than done not pulling the trigger on arguably the top corner prospect over somebody who isn't as as polished but may have more potential in the long run.

I'd much prefer to draft VH3 over Alexandar.  Trading back would be great if we found a partner that wasn't too far back.  It is very difficult to do especially in a draft that isn't loaded in elite talent.  Finding that partner will be more difficult to do.  We need to find a team that is desperate for a QB, such as the Rams or 9ers.  That wouldn't be too far down, but would net us a nice return.

[BmoreBird22]

also easier said than done not pulling the trigger on arguably the top corner prospect over somebody who isn't as as polished but may have more potential in the long run.

Right now, the Ravens are slotted at 3 or 4, depending on the last two weeks of the season. If a team truly values Lynch or Goff and says, "Hey, we want to trade up from 12 and we'll give you a second and next year's first," are you going to say you'd still take VH3? I honestly wouldn't

[January J]

Right now, the Ravens are slotted at 3 or 4, depending on the last two weeks of the season. If a team truly values Lynch or Goff and says, "Hey, we want to trade up from 12 and we'll give you a second and next year's first," are you going to say you'd still take VH3? I honestly wouldn't

heck no ofcourse not. I would take that deal all day and run with it. But if we more or less just have the option between the two like say we end up at 6 or 7 and aren't getting many good offers...I think you have to grab vh3 without question. But I will say I have been really warming up on Alexander.

[RavensFanMania]

Right now, the Ravens are slotted at 3 or 4, depending on the last two weeks of the season. If a team truly values Lynch or Goff and says, "Hey, we want to trade up from 12 and we'll give you a second and next year's first," are you going to say you'd still take VH3? I honestly wouldn't

I would definitely take that trade.  There will be talent available with the 12th pick.

Edited December 27, 2015 by RavensFanMania

[JoeyFlex5]

If we got that trade offer I'd take it in a heartbeat, Alexander, buckner, jack, treadwell, the value is through the roof there

[ravefan52]

I feel like he's kind of been forgotten about lately but I really like Cam Sutton.

[JoeyFlex5]

I feel like he's kind of been forgotten about lately but I really like Cam Sutton.

he's so raw. His lack of ball skills scare me but he has a very high ceiling. Id trade up from the 3rd to tree late 2nd for him given the chance but I think there's a good chance he never pans out to be more than a return ace

[RaineV1]

I feel like he's kind of been forgotten about lately but I really like Cam Sutton.

If I was confident in the Ravens' ability to develop DBs, I'd love taking Sutton. But as it stands, I want a more polished guy like VH3 or someone that loves studying film and can somewhat coach himself up like Alexander.

[nishadrahman13]

Looking at the Cardinals-Packers game, I'm really warming to drafting Jalen Ramsey. Not to play corner, or even safety. But as the role of a Deone Buchannon or a Tyrann Matheiu.

[Cillmatic]

Looking at the Cardinals-Packers game, I'm really warming to drafting Jalen Ramsey. Not to play corner, or even safety. But as the role of a Deone Buchannon or a Tyrann Matheiu.

No thanks. You don't pick a player without a position in the top 10.

[ravefan52]

If I was confident in the Ravens' ability to develop DBs, I'd love taking Sutton. But as it stands, I want a more polished guy like VH3 or someone that loves studying film and can somewhat coach himself up like Alexander.

I don't think we're bad at developing CB's, maybe injuries have just made it seem more so. Yeah I'd love to have Hargreaves, but if we don't get a corner in the 1st then I'd like Sutton later on.

Also I was kind of underwhelmed by Alexander. From what I've seen he doesn't have great technique and relies too much on his athleticism. Also struggles to find the ball in the air. Not saying I hate him, just not sure he's that top prospect many think he is. He has some holes in his game.

[nishadrahman13]

Do you take a DPOY candidate like Tyrann Mathieu in the top 10 with hindsight?

[nishadrahman13]

And totally agree about Alexander. Frankly there is no "perfect" prospect in this draft, like Khalil Mack or Aaron Donald.

Edited December 27, 2015 by nishadrahman13

[Cillmatic]

Do you take a DPOY candidate like Tyrann Mathieu in the top 10 with hindsight?

Matthieu is a rarity. Won't find a player like him again for a while. Edited December 27, 2015 by Cillmatic

[nishadrahman13]

I don't see it like he doesn't have a position, he just has many he can be useful at. From linebacker to safety to corner. A Swiss Army knife of a stud.

[Cillmatic]

I don't see it like he doesn't have a position, he just has many he can be useful at. From linebacker to safety to corner. A Swiss Army knife of a stud.

He's just lacking as a prospect. Not enough film at one position and he hasn't shown he's particular good at any position. He's too much of a leap of faith. At best he's a safety prospect with unknown coverage skills.

[nishadrahman13]

He's just lacking as a prospect. Not enough film at one position and he hasn't shown he's particular good at any position. He's too much of a leap of faith. At best he's a safety prospect with unknown coverage skills.

Time will tell. Admittedly I might be getting swayed by his 2014 tape against Miami. Most dominant performance I've seen from any prospect this year.

[Cillmatic]

Time will tell. Admittedly I might be getting swayed by his 2014 tape against Miami. Most dominant performance I've seen from any prospect this year.

Look at how he played though. That won't translate to the NFL, he spent most of his time at corner but he sucks at basic backpedaling. He messed himself up by not staying at safety this season, that might've given us atleast SOME more film but given the FSU system he'd still have questionable coverage skills. Edited December 28, 2015 by Cillmatic

[nishadrahman13]

Look at how he played though. That won't translate to the NFL, he spent most of his time at corner but he sucks at basic backpedaling. He messed himself up by not staying at safety this season, that might've given us atleast SOME more film but given the FSU system he'd still have questionable coverage skills.

I don't see him as an off coverage corner for sure. Man cover corner, safety, or linebacker as far as position. With a lot of potential to grow too; his work ethic has already been well-documented.

[nishadrahman13]

As far as work ethic, the reports remind me of some of the top players in the league right now. Obviously that could be skewed by whoever is writing it, but he's also the first freshman corner to start for FSU since some guy named Deion Sanders. He's had quite a long streak of success.

[nishadrahman13]

I believe that he has top 10 potential as his ceiling. His floor does scare me if he pulls an Elam.