[News] Late For Work 9/28: Patriots' Jonathan Kraft Enjoying 'Sweetheart' Ravens Losses

[RavensFootballFan]

Like father, like son. J.Kraft shows arrogance instead of class. I would like to see him call Harbaugh a sweetheart to his face. An old saying is don't say it behind their back if you cannot say it to their face. I bet Harbaugh would slap him silly if J.Kraft told him that to his face. An arrogant little you know what he is and yes, I would say it to J.Kraft's face. Makes me mad when people like J.Kraft and his father shows no respect to anyone but themselves. I am really proud of how respectful Bisciotti is to personnels of NFL no matter the circumstances. It's obvious how much I don't like the Pats because I have no respect for them. I'll leave it at that because I respect that I can't go above G rated here.

[ravenwildman]

The Ravens may be winless, but that can be changed, being a cheating spying lowlife manipulator is a suit worn for life. Chuckle and grin all you like, remember how the saying goes: karma is a...... GO RAVENS!

[RavensBaltimore]

our problem is we're getting away from runing game, pass-happy , 3 and shorts and we r passing it, crazy.

Our problem has been sticking with the run game even when it's not working. We tried running on multiple 3rd and shorts, and we got stuffed both times. Trestman should have seen that coming, because our power run game has been shut down all year. Forsett averaged 1.3 yds/carry, and we had multiple runs for a loss that didn't even count because we got called for holding. Running the ball has done nothing but set up 2nd and 3rd and longs and lead to punts this year. When we get away from the run and spread them out is when the offense consistently moves the ball and puts up points. I think some Baltimore fans are just programmed to say "we need to run the ball more" after every loss.

[stixfix69]

coaches and players need to be held accountable....young players are learning the game, the vets who aren't performing need benched, and the coaches who are getting the players playing the schemes to be successful need to be given a warning at this stage of the season to clean up the play of their players that fall under them....Maybe sign a vet D-Lineman....possibly a LT....Maybe give Brooks reps at FS during the games....Coaches have to find the right combo of players....We have been in every game, just a matter of closing them with our Defense making our leads stand....

[DJ Rob McNasty]

Patriots just showing once again what classless dirtbags they are.

[Renan Stapavicci]

Who to blame??!!! Of course is Newsome, 32 MI (16 guaranteed) to a injured TE (Dennis Pitta), 41 MI (21 guaranteed) to a injured CB (Jimmy Smith), a 1st round pick on a Injury-Prone WR, kept a CB that alowed dozens of yards and tackles against NE on the roster (Rashan Melvin), Lardarius Webb can't stay healthy and play after sign a huge contract, Arrington is a waste of roster spot...look to the DB he let go (Ihedibo, Darian Stewart, Corey Grahan, Cary Williams, are they worse than de DBs we have, i don't think so. Two seasons in a row and couldn't find a single CB via draft or free angency.

[RavensBaltimore]

Perriman isnt injured. Its a debility he's been dealing with for almost as long as he's lived according to what i've read. its not something that's gonna heal and he'll get over. its gonna be a recurring problem for his entire career, however long that ends up being with a condition like that. no reason to believe Perriman is anything more than a spot play when he's feeling up to it, at this point. He's not that answer, and no one on the waiver wire is either.

I have read quotes from multiple doctors(and some googlers) and every one has said that OSD only affects adolescents, and is no longer an issue with people who are done growing. There was a doctor quoted on this site that said it has "no bearing" on his current injury. His father had the same condition and played 10 years in the NFL, and Perriman didn't have any significant injuries in college. 

[TheRavengers]

I'm hoping that the fact that it's the Steelers is all the motivation they need to win on Thursday.

[FloridalovesRavens]

I am so sick and tired of hearing about the Pats. I would really like to wipe Brady's smirk off his face as well. The Pats will get their just dessert sometime I am sure. In the meantime we can only hope to win a game real soon. I certainly would like to see the Pats in post season play in Bmore. We have to wait and see. Chins up Ravens on to the next game.

[rmcjacket23]

Hmm I didn't know Babin was a WR I thought he was an edge rusher. They haven't had any inactive WR's with the exception of Perriman, IR him, bring in a warm body. They shook up the secondary last season it looks like the WR corp can use the same thing.

Right, so you IR him, and you still probably have one WR a week who won't be active... guess who you think that would be? The new guy.

 

We didn't really shake up the secondary at all last season... we did it because of injuries, not really because of poor play. And as we saw at the end of the season, it didn't work.

[rmcjacket23]

I would say yes, but that wouldn't do any good.  I wasn't the one complaining about the schedule, so the quote is moot.  What I was clarifying for some... was the stretch of away games.  The schedule is broken up and not as many away in the beginning like we have.  Theirs are staggered pretty well.  We, essentially aren't home again but once before November 1st.  The end of our schedule is better...  Just sayin'...

Cool, so you get a stretch of road games followed by a stretch of home games. We've got a full month coming up where we don't leave Baltimore... I better see people praising the league for giving us that great stretch of scheduling. Something tells me I won't though...

 

Good teams win games. Bad teams lose games. A playoff caliber team wins in Oakland and wins at home against Cincinnati. A non-playoff caliber team doesn't.

 

Don't care when the games are or even where they are.

[yourmomsman]

Why do we play so scared on defense? I know we don't have the best corners, but, seriously, why are these guys 7 plus yards away form the receivers, and they still manage to get beat deep. What ever conservative, cover 4 type of defense Pees is running, needs to be gone. I'm tired of seeing us get beat at the last minute. These boys need to have some pride, and stand up when the game is on the line. Our defense has been doing this for the past 3 YEARS; this is absolutely inexcusable. Either Ozzie has to leave, or Harbaugh has to leave. This team is heading in the wrong direction, and i can sense that it may be a internal struggle of power within the organization. Anyway, I've been following Robert Nkemdiche since he was in high school, so it might be nice to have him...one last thing, Ozzie Newsome, DO NO DRAFT RECEIVERS, you suck at it.

[Minionhunter]

To those saying players, players, players. I say: Yesterday I got really good a game called who is the opposing team going to throw to that will catch the ball. I was about 95% accurate if I picked the/a receiver who the defense didn%u2019t play on the line of scrimmage. I wish I was bad at that game because if I%u2019m good at it, so is the opposing QB.

[PurpleDrank]

Well its official for me, I now hate the Patriots more than any other franchise in the NFL. Steelers is always a love/hate mutual respect. Honestly, I know this sounds sacrilegious but I was hoping the Steelers would kick their butt week 1. Keep smiling Kraft...motivation needed.

[RavensBaltimore]

We've lost 3 in a row. Have we lost 3 in a row in a season before? Probably more than once, but one notable time: in our Super Bowl season. 

 

So - is this different just because it came at the beginning of the season? Not really. The difference comes in that we saw at points earlier in that Super Bowl season that we were good enough to win. Watching this team as they are playing now, it is hard to envision that. Also, that losing streak didn't include any team that looked like the Raiders. To see what the defense is allowing to happen is making it really, really hard to imagine a bounce back of the kind required to get us back into this. 

 

But I'm not giving up on them. That doesn't matter, though, if they all decide to give up on themselves. That is what remains to be seen. 

I think our 3 game losing streak in the SB season was even worse. We lost to Charlie Batch, at home. The teams we have lost to this year have a combined 7-1 record(4-1 when you take out their wins against us), with the only loss coming when 2 of the teams played each other. In our 2012 losing streak, our defense gave up leads to 2 backup qbs, and then we got blown out at home. All of our losses this year have been by less than a TD. We are literally one play/game away from being 3-0, with 2 of those games coming against potential SB contenders, so I don't think it's that hard to imagine us turning it around. 

 

We also lost 3 straight in 2008, going from 2-0 to 2-3. We ended up 11-5.

[Minionhunter]

The Kraft's control the NFL - TV/media contracts. Enough said. They can do whatever they want and get away with it because they have the power because they control the revenue stream that is most of the money the NFL makes. You want some team's momentum paused or continued, sure it would be no problem to take a TV timeout here, or not take one where we should. No problem if it means we get more/premium matchups....

[Edgar]

Thank you Mr. Kraft - its comments from sleazeballs like you that will hopefully help motivate our team to actually win a game this season.

 

Poor guy must read too much New England news - they all seem to still be under the delusion that the Ravens had something to do with them being caught cheating.

how dare anyone catch them cheating

[4everraven]

Our problem has been sticking with the run game even when it's not working. We tried running on multiple 3rd and shorts, and we got stuffed both times. Trestman should have seen that coming, because our power run game has been shut down all year. Forsett averaged 1.3 yds/carry, and we had multiple runs for a loss that didn't even count because we got called for holding. Running the ball has done nothing but set up 2nd and 3rd and longs and lead to punts this year. When we get away from the run and spread them out is when the offense consistently moves the ball and puts up points. I think some Baltimore fans are just programmed to say "we need to run the ball more" after every loss.

I agree completely and I've commented on this many times. The 'gotta run first' mentality is what is making this offense inconsistent. All defenses in the NFL today will stop run heavy offenses. The old school run to set up the pass is a by gone scheme that the Ravens continue to push and unsuccessfully so. Yards can be made on the ground but only when the defense is spread out and when the passing game is humming. There is no doubt in my mind if the Ravens would change philosophy to pass first, run second, the offense would be better. There would be less 2d and 3d & longs and who knows, maybe Aiken & Marlon could get in a groove, although I'd like to see them dropped to the bottom of the depth chart and Waller & Camp given playing time. Like or not the offense is scoring but given our defense it has to score more and trying to pound it is futile. BTW, can the Ravens come up with a better opening play of the game other than a pass to Juice in the flat!?

[williebear317]

Little Jonathan Kraft gets to go on TV by himself and take the silver spoon out of his mouth to gloat!! Like to put that spoon where the sun won't shine!!

[Drew P]

Right, so you IR him, and you still probably have one WR a week who won't be active... guess who you think that would be? The new guy.

 

We didn't really shake up the secondary at all last season... we did it because of injuries, not really because of poor play. And as we saw at the end of the season, it didn't work.

 

 

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11822804/dominique-franks-chykie-brown-cut-baltimore-ravens

[Edug27]

We also lost 3 straight in 2008, going from 2-0 to 2-3. We ended up 11-5.

 

That's where our minds need to be. Winning the next 2 games and going from there. Harbaugh needs to get everyones mind focused in that locker room. As Flacco mentioned, you have to believe you can win these games.

 

@Steelers, Browns, Chargers, Jags, Rams, @Browns, @Dolphins = All games where we have zero excuse not to win. If we do, then we'll be 7-5 heading into a 3 game homestand.

 

Easier said than done of course. But it's a long season with a favorable middle part of that schedule ahead of us.

[riseNConquer81]

I have read quotes from multiple doctors(and some googlers) and every one has said that OSD only affects adolescents, and is no longer an issue with people who are done growing. There was a doctor quoted on this site that said it has "no bearing" on his current injury. His father had the same condition and played 10 years in the NFL, and Perriman didn't have any significant injuries in college.

yeah i know. somebody else already wrote that. Does anybody know what his problem actually is right now?

[cbrook1862]

Glad Perriman's improving, hopefully it's JUST AN AGGRAVATION and he wull yruly be back as asoon as tmw, I guess that's why it took him so long to come back to practice. Because of things like this, stay healthy everyone.

[Tru11]

yeah i know. somebody else already wrote that. Does anybody know what his problem actually is right now?

 

 

all i can find is a set back and he is limping a lil bit.

 

could be ready for thursday or next season at this point lol

[Rich McG]

Why are you still talking about Perriman? He hasn't spoken to us in 2 months. Is anyone surprised he has hurt his knee again? This time just warming up. He's a complete 1st round bust for now. We are all rooting for the kid, but he is no savior this year....for godsakes he is a unproven rookie. Lined up next to Elam. Who at least played some. We haven't figured out exactly what he was doing on the field, but at least he was in games to screw up. Cut Monroe. He's not a football player. Giving up on Tyrod didn't have a good effect on this team. Replaced with that sad-faced over the hill backup Q-B. Other than that and of course some more......Go Ravens!!

Edited September 28, 2015 by Rich McG

[Ravensfansince03]

Big congrats to Steve Smith too, he put on a clinic. Its unfortunate that this team has lost its identity right now, I really wish we could get him a Super Bowl ring.

[Ravensfansince03]

This team has no motivation to win. There is a huge lack of leadership. The makeup of this team right now is mostly free agents unfortunately. We wen't from having a defense that we fully drafted to having one where most our guys are either free agents or rookies stepping in immediately. Will Hill & kendrick Lewis - Both free agents. Daryl Smith, Lawrence guy, Elvis Dumervil. All guys from free agency. Think of our SB run, Pernell Mcphee, Arthur Jones, Ngata, Suggs, Cary Williams, Jimmy Smith, Ray Rice, Danielle Ellerbe. Bernard Pollard was a free agent pick but he fit perfectly with a bunch of guys that were already Ravens by blood. This season our staff went to heavy in relying on free agents to carry this team. Thats where I feel the motivation and leadership lacks when it comes down to it. Ozzie and the crew wanted a more explosive offense but they forgot that this team and most importantly baltimore city which is a blue collar city is a defense city. Keep Flacco intact, and just build on our defense and get the RUN game back!!

Edited September 28, 2015 by Ravensfansince03

[fusuymada]

In the words of Aaron Rodgers when GB started 1 - 2 and lost to some average teams, R-E-L-A-X. We need to do the same...

[fusuymada]

This team has no motivation to win. There is a huge lack of leadership. The makeup of this team right now is mostly free agents unfortunately. We wen't from having a defense that we fully drafted to having one where most our guys are either free agents or rookies stepping in immediately. Will Hill & kendrick Lewis - Both free agents. Daryl Smith, Lawrence guy, Elvis Dumervil. All guys from free agency. Think of our SB run, Pernell Mcphee, Arthur Jones, Ngata, Suggs, Cary Williams, Jimmy Smith, Ray Rice, Danielle Ellerbe. Bernard Pollard was a free agent pick but he fit perfectly with a bunch of guys that were already Ravens by blood. This season our staff went to heavy in relying on free agents to carry this team. Thats where I feel the motivation and leadership lacks when it comes down to it. Ozzie and the crew wanted a more explosive offense but they forgot that this team and most importantly baltimore city which is a blue collar city is a defense city. Keep Flacco intact, and just build on our defense and get the RUN game back!!

We are stuck with free agents because we failed to draft well for defense recently.  Elam, Brookes, Kindle, Cody, A Brown etc...  In recent years we have struck out in the draft.  Of course we can yell at Ozzie and blame him but when the team picks between 28th and 32nd just about every year, slowly but surely your draft picks are going to be of suspect quality.  We did do well with Brandon Williams who is starting, also Mosley, Carl Davis, Webb, and Smith but mostly we have FAs because we have done horrible in the draft save 2 or 3 players.

[RavensBaltimore]

yeah i know. somebody else already wrote that. Does anybody know what his problem actually is right now?

After the MRI, Harbaugh said the doctors were calling it a sprain, and Hensley reported that he had a sprained PCL, which could take 8 weeks to fully heal. I'm not sure if that was ever confirmed or not, but I don't think Hensley has a reputation for giving false reports, and we are right around the 8 week time frame right now, but apparently, he had a set back. Based on everything I've read and heard though, there is no structural damage, and there's nothing to indicate that this will be a chronic issue when it finally does heal.