Can we start Terrence Brooks already?

[spitfire418]

Oh there's not comparing VH3 to Elam. VH3 seems like the safest pick at CB since Haden. Elam was an undersized shoulder-tackling box Safety in college, so I'm not sure why they expected anything different in the pros. 

Yeah I agree, they are Florida boys so I like them both, but I've LOVED VH3 ever since he committed from high school. Great player on and off the field.

[Cillmatic]

Guys. During the game Hill got injuried and left the game for a few snaps. You know who they played at safety in his absence? Webb. Face it, Brooks just isn't that good.

[DomMcRaven]

The truth is that the coaches are to loyal and ignorant about certain players due to things like with Lewis having experience, a decent sized contract, and counting against our comp picks. Brooks played very good on special teams tonight and really helped on that game winner (wish he would've got it  ). Plus I don't think he is practicing bad, I just don't. I bet he has made some mistakes, but everyone one makes mistakes in practice and in games (especially our secondary as you saw tonight). Harbaugh always says he is practicing well and the ONLY time a negative comment was brought up was when Dean Pees mentioned some mental errors in practice (everyone makes them...). This kid is hungry for a shot at playing more and even starting for us and I think he deserves a chance. You could tell he wanted that ball on the blocked kick too. He almost ripped the ball out of Will Hill's hands.

I know right?! I really wish I could see what's going on in practice though. I don't know what's going on nor do I see the problem of at least benching Lewis for Brooks. I don't wish for injury, but does it take Lewis to get hurt for Brooks to see the field?

[spitfire418]

I know right?! I really wish I could see what's going on in practice though. I don't know what's going on nor do I see the problem of at least benching Lewis for Brooks. I don't wish for injury, but does it take Lewis to get hurt for Brooks to see the field?

Yeah that's basically how it's going to be with our coaching staff. He's only played because of injuries this year which is just sad. I think he actually got to play a little bit last year without guys even being hurt. Also, I think the difference this year from last year is that the whole coaching staff is in LOVE with Kendrick Lewis (they may as well date him lol) for some odd reason. I mean I like his personality I get that, but he's not our future and not that good.

Edited December 1, 2015 by spitfire418

[spitfire418]

Guys. During the game Hill got injuried and left the game for a few snaps. You know who they played at safety in his absence? Webb. Face it, Brooks just isn't that good.

We get that you don't like Brooks bro. Just stop posting it lol.

[Cillmatic]

We get that you don't like Brooks bro. Just stop posting it lol.

It's not that I don't like him, I just don't get why people think he's so much better than the guys we already have out there. Edited December 1, 2015 by Cillmatic

[spitfire418]

It's not that I don't like him, I just don't get why people think he's so much better than the guys we already have out there.

You have said he's not good several times which means you don't like him as a player at least. Plus a lot of Ravens fans don't like Kendrick Lewis and don't understand why he is starting.

[martinman89]

You have said he's not good several times which means you don't like him as a player at least. Plus a lot of Ravens fans don't like Kendrick Lewis and don't understand why he is starting.

Quite honestly, I believe its a scheme and Pees issue. We heard many times Lewis is a MAJOR upgrade from Darien Stewart and our past free safeties since Reed. I mean, look at how well the media is crediting Stewart with the Broncos now. When we first signed Stewart a couple of seasons ago from the Rams, I read he was a sure tackler and hard hitter. He needed to work on his coverage and ball skills. When he did start for us he lacked ALL of those skills especially tackling which is what he was known for. I believe our DB coaches and Pees are to blame. From the moment we signed Lewis we read how he is good in coverage as well as a tackler and an upgrade to Stewart. How is it that Stewart is starting and playing exceptionally well for another team when he couldn't do anything for ours? I bet if Lewis were to sign with another team when his contract is up, he'd play well. Pees is running our DBs and recently signed defensive free agents and rookies to the ground. I still have high hopes for Elam due to his athleticism. Something needs to change with our DB scheme. With that said, I too believe Brooks should start over Lewis. Throw into the fire and let him learn from game day mistakes. 

[martinman89]

Guys. During the game Hill got injuried and left the game for a few snaps. You know who they played at safety in his absence? Webb. Face it, Brooks just isn't that good.

I believe there is some truth to what you are saying but with that said, If Lewis is already playing bad or injured, should we just let Brooks play and learn a few things? If he makes mistakes theres no harm, no foul. Let him learn from those mistakes. Its not like were playing good enough for the playoffs this season. 

[Static]

Well if Brooks isn't good , then why did Ozzie spend a 3rd on him?? So many questions

[martinman89]

Well if Brooks isn't good , then why did Ozzie spend a 3rd on him?? So many questions

Exactly, Brooks is very athletic and has a high potential ceiling in my opinion. I still think Lewis is a good capable starter but if our season is already over, considering we are not gonna make the playoffs, whats to gamble? 

[Static]

I saw Lewis look scared to touch receivers and gave the softest tackle ever on Barnidge.

I know for a fact Brooks isn't scared to hit. Remember when he destroyed Delanie Walker? Barnidge could have used some of that

[spitfire418]

Well if Brooks isn't good , then why did Ozzie spend a 3rd on him?? So many questions

I agree with this as well. He was a steal in the third round. Brooks is oozing with potential and has shown us that in very slim playing time. All our coaches keep saying that they love the guy and he'll have a great future with us. So I'm with you, why is he not getting a chance. My answer, as I've said several times, would be because of Kendrick Lewis. Brooks is a smart and instinctive football player, loves the game of football, and seems like a great person off the field too. So why not give him a shot? COME ON COACHES!!! BROOKS IS HUNGRY AND READY TO PLAY!

[Cillmatic]

I believe there is some truth to what you are saying but with that said, If Lewis is already playing bad or injured, should we just let Brooks play and learn a few things? If he makes mistakes theres no harm, no foul. Let him learn from those mistakes. Its not like were playing good enough for the playoffs this season.

Lewis isn't anywhere near as bad as a lot of people seem to think. He's sevicable and can tackle well. If Brooks isn't better than THAT then I don't want him.

[PurpleCity5]

I don't think Lewis played a bad game yesturday. That deep TD to Benjamin was on Will Hill, shoot even Hill admitted that after the game.

[spitfire418]

Lewis isn't anywhere near as bad as a lot of people seem to think. He's sevicable and can tackle well. If Brooks isn't better than THAT then I don't want him.

Sevicable? You meant serviceable right? He's an average player in the NFL at best so yeah that's serviceable, but I don't agree that he can tackle well and a lot will agree with me on that. He's made some decent tackles as of late, but has still missed a bunch of them, especially earlier this year. Brooks is a much better tackler than Lewis and has the speed and fearlessness to blow someone up that Lewis doesn't have. Plus I would say Brooks is AT LEAST serviceable as well. He's shown that he belongs in the NFL and is a great special teams player at the bare minimum. So... why not let him play (start ), and we won't know if he's better until he gets a good amount of playing time, but obviously I think he is and you don't.

[spitfire418]

I don't think Lewis played a bad game yesturday. That deep TD to Benjamin was on Will Hill, shoot even Hill admitted that after the game.

Yeah he's played better lately, but still, we don't need just an average safety like him. We know what kind of player he is and that's just what he will be, nothing special. Plus I don't know who to blame on that deep ball. Will is the easiest to blame on it but look at this. The guy he bit on was WIDE OPEN so he kind of had too bite on him. He basically was covering two guys which is impossible lol. Also, Shareece Wright was covering nothing but grass on that play so I don't understand that, and Kendrick went and double covered a guy that Jimmy had all the way. I guess I would blame that on the play call... Pees... 

Edited December 1, 2015 by spitfire418

[DomMcRaven]

Yeah that's basically how it's going to be with our coaching staff. He's only played because of injuries this year which is just sad. I think he actually got to play a little bit last year without guys even being hurt. Also, I think the difference this year from last year is that the whole coaching staff is in LOVE with Kendrick Lewis (they may as well date him lol) for some odd reason. I mean I like his personality I get that, but he's not our future and not that good.

I guess lol. He's a stopgap at best. Hopefully Lewis is mentoring Brooks. 

 

 

 

Quite honestly, I believe its a scheme and Pees issue. We heard many times Lewis is a MAJOR upgrade from Darien Stewart and our past free safeties since Reed. I mean, look at how well the media is crediting Stewart with the Broncos now. When we first signed Stewart a couple of seasons ago from the Rams, I read he was a sure tackler and hard hitter. He needed to work on his coverage and ball skills. When he did start for us he lacked ALL of those skills especially tackling which is what he was known for. I believe our DB coaches and Pees are to blame. From the moment we signed Lewis we read how he is good in coverage as well as a tackler and an upgrade to Stewart. How is it that Stewart is starting and playing exceptionally well for another team when he couldn't do anything for ours? I bet if Lewis were to sign with another team when his contract is up, he'd play well. Pees is running our DBs and recently signed defensive free agents and rookies to the ground. I still have high hopes for Elam due to his athleticism. Something needs to change with our DB scheme. With that said, I too believe Brooks should start over Lewis. Throw into the fire and let him learn from game day mistakes. 

THIS!

[Boddiebroadus]

What about using brooks as a linebacker how the cardinals use bucannon. If brooks could put on like 15 pounds he'd be the same weight as bucannon. Brooks can hit and u plays extremely fast. He'd cover rbs and tes. I doubt it would happen and it probably would t work but hey could be worth a shot and we could draft Ramsey and still have brooks out there.

[spitfire418]

What about using brooks as a linebacker how the cardinals use bucannon. If brooks could put on like 15 pounds he'd be the same weight as bucannon. Brooks can hit and u plays extremely fast. He'd cover rbs and tes. I doubt it would happen and it probably would t work but hey could be worth a shot and we could draft Ramsey and still have brooks out there.

I love that you said this because I was thinking the same thing. I would much rather have him start at FS, but he is really good at playing in the box and doing things like blitzing, lots of tackling, and covering RB's and TE's. He sort of played this role (he was at nickel corner) against the Browns back in Week 5 and played pretty well. I wish we would at least use him as a blitzer and nickel corner if we're going to keep playing Lewis at FS every snap.

[Cillmatic]

Well if Brooks isn't good , then why did Ozzie spend a 3rd on him?? So many questions

Same reason we drafted Arthur in the 2nd.

[spitfire418]

Same reason we drafted Arthur in the 2nd.

Same situation basically. Both haven't gotten a chance because of experienced players and high draft picks above them. With Brown, he would've been our starter alongside Daryl Smith if we didn't draft C.J. Moseley. Then with Brooks, he's a young and developing safety, which can take some time and he's had experienced guys above him so far in his career.

Edited December 1, 2015 by spitfire418

[Dr. Kelley]

Well if Brooks isn't good , then why did Ozzie spend a 3rd on him?? So many questions

Well, he also spent a first on elam

[spitfire418]

Well, he also spent a first on elam

The Elam situation is a bit different. He was drafted 1st round so he got to play unlike the other two who weren't 1st rounders, which is stupid, it doesn't matter what round you're drafted in, give these guys a chance. Elam had a decent rookie year, but a terrible sophmore year, and I'm saying this as a HUGE Gators fan. I still have some hopes for Elam, but he's in a rough situation with the injury that happened. It's sad though how the first rounders get thrown right into the starting lineup and if you're a mid round guy (that might be even better) you don't get put in unless there is an empty spot or an injury.

[JC20]

I love Brooks and think he should start for us too. He has done well this year when he's been healthy and has balled out on special teams lately, which is what our coaches want from the young guys. I'm on the bench Lewis, start Brooks train lol.

[atomicfront]

Same situation basically. Both haven't gotten a chance because of experienced players and high draft picks above them. With Brown, he would've been our starter alongside Daryl Smith if we didn't draft C.J. Moseley. Then with Brooks, he's a young and developing safety, which can take some time and he's had experienced guys above him so far in his career.

 

Orr is playing now and Brown isn't.  Drafting Mosley doesn't have to do with Brown not playing.  Brown must be sucking in practice.  

[JoeyFlex5]

I REALLY hope he doesn't line up at nickel. I'm so tired of seeing our Safeties play CB when they have no business doing so. He's a safety, make him play safety.

he actually played cb until his final year at fsu

[GrimCoconut]

Guys. During the game Hill got injuried and left the game for a few snaps. You know who they played at safety in his absence? Webb. Face it, Brooks just isn't that good.

I'm starting to think this is the truth. Nobody wants to admit it. I don't want to say it, either, but I think it's the elephant in the room.

[Static]

I'm starting to think this is the truth. Nobody wants to admit it. I don't want to say it, either, but I think it's the elephant in the room.

Well then we need to look at Ozzie because that makes another washed pick.

Edited December 3, 2015 by Static

[spitfire418]

I'm starting to think this is the truth. Nobody wants to admit it. I don't want to say it, either, but I think it's the elephant in the room.

Brooks isn't the backup SS is why this happened. He is the backup FS and a backup nickel corner. He's come in for an injured Kendrick Lewis a couple times as well as when we had injuries to corners. Nobody wants to admit it??? Admit that he's not good? How can anyone say he's not good until he gets enough playing time to show what he can do. He's made several good plays in his short career. For a recent example, that kick-six wouldn't have happened without Brooks. Yeah he's made mistakes, everyone does. Think of this. Will Hill made a HUGE mistake when he let Benjamin score the game tying TD, but nobody will get on him about that because he's Will Hill and also ran in the kick-six. Give me a break. Plus the coaches say he will have a good future in this league and for the Ravens. Some of our players don't develop until their 3rd or 4th year. Think of guys like McPhee and Smith. Brooks has been hurt throughout his career, but once he gets a solid opportunity I believe he will show us that he truly is a good player.

Edited December 3, 2015 by spitfire418