Can we start Terrence Brooks already?

[beanfigger]

Inactive... I guess he isn't showing enough to get a real chance.

[spitfire418]

Inactive... I guess he isn't showing enough to get a real chance.

He's obviously getting rested still. Don't forget that he's coming off a nasty ACL/MCL injury and isn't fully healed yet. Plus the thumb that he had surgery on probably isn't 100% yet.

[spitfire418]

Reporters are saying that he's a healthy scratch and fell victim to a numbers game.

I don't believe that. He was active every game this year until he got hurt vs the Browns. Think about it.

[spitfire418]

He wasn't even on the injury report this week.

Yeah I know. He was probable last week too. Practice is different than games. I believe the coaches felt like resting him instead of risking a re-injury in a real game situation. Also, if he was a starter (which he should be) then he wouldn't be inactive, BUT we have the most sorry, terrible, and embarrassing safety in the league named Kendrick Lewis and our coaches are so ignorant that they can't see how BAAAAD he is. 

Edited November 15, 2015 by spitfire418

[spitfire418]

I get what you're saying, but it was a healthy scratch for him today.  He just fell victim to a numbers game since Perriman was the only injured player.  We had to make a decision on 6 inactive players and unfortunately for him, he was one of them.  It was clear we game planned to use guys like Arthur Brown today.  We really mixed personnel and it just pushed Brooks out a bit.

Yeah as I said, he is inactive because Lewis is the starter so he is a guy we can use as an inactive. I still think he is getting rested, but only him and the people behind close doors know if that's true. What makes me mad is just how ignorant are coaches are though. We are SO bad at developing players most of the time (especially on defense). Some guys just don't get a chance if they aren't 1st round picks (ex: Arthur Brown, Terrence Brooks). The staff needs to open their eyes and see that Kendrick Lewis is ATROCIOUS and move on. I obviously like Brooks and want him to start, but I will take anybody on our roster over Lewis. Start Levine or Trawick if we have too.... I don't care. Any change at that position will make me happy.

[Static]

Well if Brooks is inactive for KENDRICK LEWIS then we have to assume that he is complete trash otherwise it makes no sense. Which in that case we'd have to blame Ozzie for another draft bust

[spitfire418]

Well if Brooks is inactive for KENDRICK LEWIS then we have to assume that he is complete trash otherwise it makes no sense. Which in that case we'd have to blame Ozzie for another draft bust

As I said in my previous posts. He was inactive because he isn't starting (the coaches haven't given him/others a solid chance at playing time to earn a starting job) OR what I believe, is that he could still use some rest because of his injuries and not starting factors into that decision as well. He was active until the Browns game where he got injured so obviously the coaches had him active prior to that and wanted him to get some playing time in situations.

Edited November 16, 2015 by spitfire418

[52520Andrew]

Harbaugh has a doctorate in coach speak and I honestly think he'd talk up a piece of bread and water as a luxury meal.

That said, I hope it's true because we need someone to emerge as an option back there.

Yeah that is a good way to look at it lol. I have learned to take what he has to say in press conferences with a grain of salt.

[GrimCoconut]

Yeah that is a good way to look at it lol. I have learned to take what he has to say in press conferences with a grain of salt.

Yeah, but truthfully, I'm beginning to think even Brooks may not pan out. People want to point to him as a savior but I'm not convinced, and this is coming from someone who thought he'd be special in the NFL. In all honesty, he reminds me more of a Will Hill-lite than an Earl Thomas, Ed Reed, Byrd, Weddle, McCourty, etc.

[52520Andrew]

Yeah, but truthfully, I'm beginning to think even Brooks may not pan out. People want to point to him as a savior but I'm not convinced, and this is coming from someone who thought he'd be special in the NFL. In all honesty, he reminds me more of a Will Hill-lite than an Earl Thomas, Ed Reed, Byrd, Weddle, McCourty, etc.

Yeah the expectations on him went up a lot with the state of our secondary and him being injured. I liked him a lot in that draft as well but he needs to get healthy and if he is then he needs to get on the field. Kinda hard for me to make a jidgement call on him if he isn't on the field but the longer it takes, the less optimistic I become.

[GrimCoconut]

Yeah the expectations on him went up a lot with the state of our secondary and him being injured. I liked him a lot in that draft as well but he needs to get healthy and if he is then he needs to get on the field. Kinda hard for me to make a jidgement call on him if he isn't on the field but the longer it takes, the less optimistic I become.

Yeah that's how I feel. When I watched him on the field, he seems to excel when he's in the box or when blitzing but seems to struggle some in coverage. The times he had a chance at intercepting he failed miserably.

I still like him but I think it's a mistake to rely on him and he's in the same boat practically as Arthur Brown for me.

[Clmraven]

I was so high on brooks in the draft, I actually had him mocked to us in the second and was very happy when we got him in the third, I don't how he's playing in practice but our season is over why not give him Some significant play time and see what we have. I mean what's the worst that could happen? We lose a game by more than 8 points?

[52520Andrew]

Yeah that's how I feel. When I watched him on the field, he seems to excel when he's in the box or when blitzing but seems to struggle some in coverage. The times he had a chance at intercepting he failed miserably.

I still like him but I think it's a mistake to rely on him and he's in the same boat practically as Arthur Brown for me.

 

Yeah Arthur Brown is a good comp for my thoughts on him at this point

[spitfire418]

I was so high on brooks in the draft, I actually had him mocked to us in the second and was very happy when we got him in the third, I don't how he's playing in practice but our season is over why not give him Some significant play time and see what we have. I mean what's the worst that could happen? We lose a game by more than 8 points?

I agree with you. Everyone needs to understand that the man should get some significant playing time before they judge him as a bad player. He has been hurt so far in his career and has had ups and downs on the field (everyone does). At 2-7 we may as well throw him into the starting lineup and see what he can do since Kendrick Lewis is a waste. He will make mistakes just like the rest of our secondary so we can't just look at his mistakes only, we have to look at the others too.

[spitfire418]

Yeah that's how I feel. When I watched him on the field, he seems to excel when he's in the box or when blitzing but seems to struggle some in coverage. The times he had a chance at intercepting he failed miserably.

I still like him but I think it's a mistake to rely on him and he's in the same boat practically as Arthur Brown for me.

He has contributed more than Arthur Brown, but I agree that these players aren't getting a shot in which they both need to especially at a 2-7 record.

[rmw10]

Jeff ZrebiecVerified account ‏@jeffzrebiecsun  7h7 hours ago

Pees said that Terrence Brooks is still learning position and making mental errors in practice. Preventing him from playing.

[DomMcRaven]

 

Jeff ZrebiecVerified account ‏@jeffzrebiecsun  7h7 hours ago

Pees said that Terrence Brooks is still learning position and making mental errors in practice. Preventing him from playing.

 

Welp. I guess that settles that then. What a shame.....

[spitfire418]

Welp. I guess that settles that then. What a shame.....

Really? You're going to give up on him already. Look what Pees actually said. He had both good and bad things to say. Also, Brooks was active every game until he got hurt and Harbaugh said he was practicing really well so who knows why he was inactive vs Jags. Everyone makes mental errors. Nobody is perfect.

 

S Terrence Brooks was in the mix a little bit defensively earlier in the year, then he had the thumb injury. What have you seen from him as far as what he needs to do to become a bigger part of what you do? (Luke Jones) “Really, he has been working on it all the time. In fact, he and I just had a talk about it this week. It’s funny you brought that up. We just talked about it a couple days ago – he and I in the office. And he just needs to be in a position. He’s a great effort guy; I love the guy, and he can run, he can hit. It’s just sometimes, he has just got to know the position, and you can’t go out, and you can’t make a mental error, whether it be in practice or whatever. That doesn’t exactly build confidence, then to let him do it in the game. And he’s trying. It’s just sometimes, [when] you’re out there playing on the scout team all the time, you don’t get a lot of reps. You get one or two; you’ve got to make those one or two really good. Because if you screw one up, that’s 50 percent. He has just got to keep working on it. He’s going to be a good football player; I’ll tell you right now. He’s going to be, and he’ll play a lot of football here. He’s just got to keep growing with it and keep … When you get the opportunity, take advantage of it.”

Edited November 20, 2015 by spitfire418

[GrimCoconut]

Really? You're going to give up on him already. Look what Pees actually said. He had both good and bad things to say. Also, Brooks was active every game until he got hurt and Harbaugh said he was practicing really well so who knows why he was inactive vs Jags. Everyone makes mental errors. Nobody is perfect.

 

S Terrence Brooks was in the mix a little bit defensively earlier in the year, then he had the thumb injury. What have you seen from him as far as what he needs to do to become a bigger part of what you do? (Luke Jones) “Really, he has been working on it all the time. In fact, he and I just had a talk about it this week. It’s funny you brought that up. We just talked about it a couple days ago – he and I in the office. And he just needs to be in a position. He’s a great effort guy; I love the guy, and he can run, he can hit. It’s just sometimes, he has just got to know the position, and you can’t go out, and you can’t make a mental error, whether it be in practice or whatever. That doesn’t exactly build confidence, then to let him do it in the game. And he’s trying. It’s just sometimes, [when] you’re out there playing on the scout team all the time, you don’t get a lot of reps. You get one or two; you’ve got to make those one or two really good. Because if you screw one up, that’s 50 percent. He has just got to keep working on it. He’s going to be a good football player; I’ll tell you right now. He’s going to be, and he’ll play a lot of football here. He’s just got to keep growing with it and keep … When you get the opportunity, take advantage of it.”

I know you're excited for Brooks and I also like him a lot, but please don't bring up John Harbaugh talking about a player as some indication on anything tangible about that player. Harbaugh could say Brooks looks like Ed Reed for all I care and I won't buy anything he says at this point until I personally see it on the field. He's lost some trust with me, personally.

[DomMcRaven]

Really? You're going to give up on him already. Look what Pees actually said. He had both good and bad things to say. Also, Brooks was active every game until he got hurt and Harbaugh said he was practicing really well so who knows why he was inactive vs Jags. Everyone makes mental errors. Nobody is perfect.

 

S Terrence Brooks was in the mix a little bit defensively earlier in the year, then he had the thumb injury. What have you seen from him as far as what he needs to do to become a bigger part of what you do? (Luke Jones) “Really, he has been working on it all the time. In fact, he and I just had a talk about it this week. It’s funny you brought that up. We just talked about it a couple days ago – he and I in the office. And he just needs to be in a position. He’s a great effort guy; I love the guy, and he can run, he can hit. It’s just sometimes, he has just got to know the position, and you can’t go out, and you can’t make a mental error, whether it be in practice or whatever. That doesn’t exactly build confidence, then to let him do it in the game. And he’s trying. It’s just sometimes, [when] you’re out there playing on the scout team all the time, you don’t get a lot of reps. You get one or two; you’ve got to make those one or two really good. Because if you screw one up, that’s 50 percent. He has just got to keep working on it. He’s going to be a good football player; I’ll tell you right now. He’s going to be, and he’ll play a lot of football here. He’s just got to keep growing with it and keep … When you get the opportunity, take advantage of it.”

Giving up on him? I didn't call him a bust. I'm not giving up on him. I just meant to say that it settles the debate of starting Brooks over Lewis. While I'm a huge proponent of starting Brooks because Lewis is a bum, I wouldn't do so if he's not ready yet, at least according to Pees. That's all.

[spitfire418]

I know you're excited for Brooks and I also like him a lot, but please don't bring up John Harbaugh talking about a player as some indication on anything tangible about that player. Harbaugh could say Brooks looks like Ed Reed for all I care and I won't buy anything he says at this point until I personally see it on the field. He's lost some trust with me, personally.

Yeah I know, Harbaugh says some crazy things lol, but it's just funny how he said Brooks has practiced really well and then Pees mentions mental errors in practice.

 

Giving up on him? I didn't call him a bust. I'm not giving up on him. I just meant to say that it settles the debate of starting Brooks over Lewis. While I'm a huge proponent of starting Brooks because Lewis is a bum, I wouldn't do so if he's not ready yet, at least according to Pees. That's all.

Ok, I didn't completely understand your comment. Sorry about that. Lewis is making mental errors and just simply playing terrible in actual games though so I don't see why the coaches wouldn't activate Brooks and give him some snaps at least.

Edited November 20, 2015 by spitfire418

[RaineV1]

Right now, I just don't have much faith in Pees and Hewitt to develop DBs. I really think that if we still had Austin or another DC, he'd have made more progress and probably be the starting FS.

[spitfire418]

If only Brooks would have been the one to pick up the blocked field goal... Maybe the coaches would let him play more. Kendrick Lewis has played better lately, but he isn't what we need at safety and a lot of fans want to see someone new in there. What's funny is though, is that I was literally thinking in my head that Brooks could get a touchdown or make a big play on special teams to get some attention. At least he made some blocks for Hill on his way to the touchdown, but all in all I'm just really excited that we won this game (even though it hurts our draft position) and VERY happy for our team's morale especially for Brent Urban (let's go!!!) and my Florida boy Will HIll (ChompChomp). #GoRavens

[Static]

I dont know what the Coaches see in Kendrick Lewis at all.

[spitfire418]

I dont know what the Coaches see in Kendrick Lewis at all.

Yeah I'm with you and so are a good amount of others. I'm just sitting here sadly and patiently waiting for a change. I have nothing against Lewis as a person it's just that he isn't the starting safety material we should have on our team, he is just OK I guess.

Edited December 1, 2015 by spitfire418

[DomMcRaven]

I dont know what the Coaches see in Kendrick Lewis at all.

Yeah I'm with you and so are a good amount of others. I'm just sitting here sadly and patiently waiting for a change. I have nothing against Lewis as a person it's just that he isn't the starting safety material we should have on our team, he is just OK I guess.

Tbh, I really think this just goes without saying unless you personally the guy. I've been done with him for quite some time. Brooks really must be struggling in practice. 

[spitfire418]

Tbh, I really think this just goes without saying unless you personally the guy. I've been done with him for quite some time. Brooks really must be struggling in practice. 

The truth is that the coaches are to loyal and ignorant about certain players due to things like with Lewis having experience, a decent sized contract, and counting against our comp picks. Brooks played very good on special teams tonight and really helped on that game winner (wish he would've got it  ). Plus I don't think he is practicing bad, I just don't. I bet he has made some mistakes, but everyone one makes mistakes in practice and in games (especially our secondary as you saw tonight). Harbaugh always says he is practicing well and the ONLY time a negative comment was brought up was when Dean Pees mentioned some mental errors in practice (everyone makes them...). This kid is hungry for a shot at playing more and even starting for us and I think he deserves a chance. You could tell he wanted that ball on the blocked kick too. He almost ripped the ball out of Will Hill's hands.

Edited December 1, 2015 by spitfire418

[Maryland]

Right now, I just don't have much faith in Pees and Hewitt to develop DBs. I really think that if we still had Austin or another DC, he'd have made more progress and probably be the starting FS.

Austin really had our DBs developing pretty nicely. I'd like to see him back as DB coach, just as long as he isn't actually involved with who we draft (since he had a large say in bringing in Elam, whom he recruited at Florda). Although if he helps us somehow get VH3...

[spitfire418]

Austin really had our DBs developing pretty nicely. I'd like to see him back as DB coach, just as long as he isn't actually involved with who we draft (since he had a large say in bringing in Elam, whom he recruited at Florda). Although if he helps us somehow get VH3...

I wouldn't mind getting him back either, and especially my boy Hargreaves. I obviously liked Elam too because I'm a Gator's fan, but I had concerns about him. On the other hand, Hargreaves is a way different player than Elam and is just a straight up baller. I watch this guy every Saturday.

Edited December 1, 2015 by spitfire418

[Maryland]

I wouldn't mind getting him back either, and especially my boy Hargreaves. I obviously liked Elam too because I'm a Gator's fan, but I had concerns about him. On the other hand, Hargreaves is a way different player than Elam and is just a straight up baller. I watch this guy every Saturday.

Oh there's not comparing VH3 to Elam. VH3 seems like the safest pick at CB since Haden. Elam was an undersized shoulder-tackling box Safety in college, so I'm not sure why they expected anything different in the pros.