Can we start Terrence Brooks already?

[spitfire418]

Kendrick Lewis has turned out to be a terrible signing so far. He hasn't really done anything positive on the field. Terrence Brooks should be starting at safety... Our secondary can't get any worse than it is now (Well I hope not).

[Tru11]

we sure do miss some range at safety.

 

lewis seems like a lesser version of hill lol

[spitfire418]

we sure do miss some range at safety.

 

lewis seems like a lesser version of hill lol

Exactly, we need a rangy guy back there that hopefully will help with all the deep passes that are being thrown on us.

Edited September 28, 2015 by spitfire418

[RaineV1]

At the very least Brooks has a better chance of covering guys deep than Lewis does.

[Static]

Harbs  Whoever makes that decision doesn't like Brooks for some reason. I doubt we will ever find out why.

Edited September 28, 2015 by Static

[GrimCoconut]

When I saw Brooks out there, I don't think he looked much better than Lewis honestly. The players gotta make plays, but the coordinator plays them to their strengths and finds ways to win with what he has. That's what a good DC does. It's time to move on from Pees. I don't see him here next year, so I take some solace in that.

[Drew P]

Another in season overhaul of the secondary. WTH did they do in the off season to make this disgrace any better?

[Static]

When I saw Brooks out there, I don't think he looked much better than Lewis honestly. The players gotta make plays, but the coordinator plays them to their strengths and finds ways to win with what he has. That's what a good DC does. It's time to move on from Pees. I don't see him here next year, so I take some solace in that.

 

EXACTLY. What does it say about Lewis that a 2nd year guy that didnt even finish his rookie season due to injury and a 6th(?) year vet MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES.

 

 

Let Brooks make and learn from his mistakes. He has got the speed to make plays. 

Edited September 28, 2015 by Static

[spitfire418]

He was a third round pick a year ago and has shown some promise. Yeah, he's made good plays and bad plays, everyone does. I'm just saying we should start him a couple games and just see how he does because he's never had a chance to play even close to a full game in his career. Plus I don't think he can do much worse the Kendrick is doing right now.

[GrimCoconut]

EXACTLY. What does it say about Lewis that a 2nd year guy that didnt even finish his rookie season due to injury and a 6th(?) year vet MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES.

 

 

Let Brooks make and learn from his mistakes. He has got the speed to make plays. 

I'm all for it if the communication is better on the back-end, but do you think it will be after throwing a sophomore safety out there who missed time due to injury? That's not rhetorical.

[Static]

I'm all for it if the communication is better on the back-end, but do you think it will be after throwing a sophomore safety out there who missed time due to injury? That's not rhetorical.

 

Well , Terrence has been here longer than Lewis but I dont know. At some point we've got to quit playing stop gaps and develop our guys.

[rmcjacket23]

EXACTLY. What does it say about Lewis that a 2nd year guy that didnt even finish his rookie season due to injury and a 6th(?) year vet MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES.

 

 

Let Brooks make and learn from his mistakes. He has got the speed to make plays. 

I'm all for this, as long as we as fans don't become hypocrites in this regard.

 

We wanted these young guys to all have their chance... now a lot of them do, and we are seeing what happens. All offseason, all we heard on these boards was "let the young WRs get their time and share". Well, no doubt they have it now. Aiken's playing the most snaps of any WR yesterday, and nobody could remember if he was there or not. 

 

Same thing with Brooks. I'm all for putting him in there... as long as when he plays bad, we hear ZERO from the fanbase about it. If we are OK with him making game-altering mistakes, fine by me... as long as we accept, up front, that we might actually lose games just to see if Terrence Brooks can play. 

 

I'm willing to make that trade off this season, as long as the rest of the fanbase is as well. Lets put Brooks and Melvin out there, bench Webb and Lewis permanently, and let the chips fall where they may.

[Tru11]

I'm all for this, as long as we as fans don't become hypocrites in this regard.

 

We wanted these young guys to all have their chance... now a lot of them do, and we are seeing what happens. All offseason, all we heard on these boards was "let the young WRs get their time and share". Well, no doubt they have it now. Aiken's playing the most snaps of any WR yesterday, and nobody could remember if he was there or not. 

 

Same thing with Brooks. I'm all for putting him in there... as long as when he plays bad, we hear ZERO from the fanbase about it. If we are OK with him making game-altering mistakes, fine by me... as long as we accept, up front, that we might actually lose games just to see if Terrence Brooks can play. 

 

I'm willing to make that trade off this season, as long as the rest of the fanbase is as well. Lets put Brooks and Melvin out there, bench Webb and Lewis permanently, and let the chips fall where they may.

 

you know that wont happen  lol.

 

they will just blame something else......

[BSHU_Miami]

you know that wont happen lol.

they will just blame something else......

blame Flacco lol

[izvoodoo]

Brooks is coming off a nasty knee injury.  Probably not best to rush him.  

[757RavensFan]

I seriously didn't think Lewis could be any worse than the Huff experiment, but errr uhhhmmmm!!!

[Tru11]

blame Flacco lol

 

man he has been on and off this season but even then they should not go that far lol

[PurpleCity5]

Lewis hasn't been great, but Brooks surely didn't look good again Cincy either. Let's give Lewis time, as frustrating as it can be. We went through this process with Darian Stewert and his play picked up as the season went by and look at him in Denver now, he looks like an All-Pro, lol. 

[spitfire418]

Lewis hasn't been great, but Brooks surely didn't look good again Cincy either. Let's give Lewis time, as frustrating as it can be. We went through this process with Darian Stewert and his play picked up as the season went by and look at him in Denver now, he looks like an All-Pro, lol. 

He got beat by a little bit on one play. Plus it was a nice route and catch by AJ Green. Give the man some time to develop and actually play some games.

[spitfire418]

I'm all for this, as long as we as fans don't become hypocrites in this regard.

 

We wanted these young guys to all have their chance... now a lot of them do, and we are seeing what happens. All offseason, all we heard on these boards was "let the young WRs get their time and share". Well, no doubt they have it now. Aiken's playing the most snaps of any WR yesterday, and nobody could remember if he was there or not. 

 

Same thing with Brooks. I'm all for putting him in there... as long as when he plays bad, we hear ZERO from the fanbase about it. If we are OK with him making game-altering mistakes, fine by me... as long as we accept, up front, that we might actually lose games just to see if Terrence Brooks can play. 

 

I'm willing to make that trade off this season, as long as the rest of the fanbase is as well. Lets put Brooks and Melvin out there, bench Webb and Lewis permanently, and let the chips fall where they may.

You can't ever blame the game all on one person. We may as well just play Brooks if he's ready health wise and see if he can develop into a starter or at least do better than Kendrick Lewis.

[Guest]

Another in season overhaul of the secondary. WTH did they do in the off season to make this disgrace any better?

 

Prayed

[Ravenseconbeast]

The money spent on Lewis & Arrington could've easily been translated to Graham & Cary Williams. 

[JoeyFlex5]

to answer your question.. yes, our secondary can get worse, and starting a FS who is less mentally competent than the one were currently fielding is exactly how you make it worse. 

 

terrence brooks isnt ready mentally. 

 

honestly though, even will hill plays at an elite level and then has mental lapses, every safety we try out has a mental lapse, veterans who have been here for years like webb and jimmy have mental lapses, i am convinced(for the first time) that pees really is the issue, he likes this rotating secondary and rotating coverage philosophy, and that works when you have a brainiac at safety, ed reed was the perfect player for that system, nobody had to think, they just had to look at ed and let him point them in the right direction, now that every db has to be held accountable for a different role on every single snap, there are gonna be mental mistakes, especially when we keep switching pieces in and out and there is no chemistry. 

 

TLDR; pees has the wrong philosophy for our defense in our current situation, and we need to simplify the coverage schemes and stop overthinking everything to the point that our players dont know what the hell their assignments are.

[spitfire418]

to answer your question.. yes, our secondary can get worse, and starting a FS who is less mentally competent than the one were currently fielding is exactly how you make it worse. 

 

terrence brooks isnt ready mentally. 

 

honestly though, even will hill plays at an elite level and then has mental lapses, every safety we try out has a mental lapse, veterans who have been here for years like webb and jimmy have mental lapses, i am convinced(for the first time) that pees really is the issue, he likes this rotating secondary and rotating coverage philosophy, and that works when you have a brainiac at safety, ed reed was the perfect player for that system, nobody had to think, they just had to look at ed and let him point them in the right direction, now that every db has to be held accountable for a different role on every single snap, there are gonna be mental mistakes, especially when we keep switching pieces in and out and there is no chemistry. 

 

TLDR; pees has the wrong philosophy for our defense in our current situation, and we need to simplify the coverage schemes and stop overthinking everything to the point that our players dont know what the hell their assignments are.

How can you know if Brooks is mentally ready or not when he's barely played. Yeah everyone makes mistakes and has mental lapses, but starting him gives us a chance to possibly improve the secondary (especially on deep balls). Also, it's not just Kendrick Lewis, our corners and honestly whole defense is playing bad which could be because of Dean Pees.  We'll just have to see what happens going forward. Hopefully we can just get some wins soon.

[Ravensfan23]

to answer your question.. yes, our secondary can get worse, and starting a FS who is less mentally competent than the one were currently fielding is exactly how you make it worse. 

 

terrence brooks isnt ready mentally. 

 

honestly though, even will hill plays at an elite level and then has mental lapses, every safety we try out has a mental lapse, veterans who have been here for years like webb and jimmy have mental lapses, i am convinced(for the first time) that pees really is the issue, he likes this rotating secondary and rotating coverage philosophy, and that works when you have a brainiac at safety, ed reed was the perfect player for that system, nobody had to think, they just had to look at ed and let him point them in the right direction, now that every db has to be held accountable for a different role on every single snap, there are gonna be mental mistakes, especially when we keep switching pieces in and out and there is no chemistry. 

 

TLDR; pees has the wrong philosophy for our defense in our current situation, and we need to simplify the coverage schemes and stop overthinking everything to the point that our players dont know what the hell their assignments are.

Brooks is a really smart football player. His issue last year was just learning the defense and as a 2nd year guy he's still learning. Going back to FSU he was always more comfortable as a coverage guy and playing around the LOS then in center field so it'll be fun to see how he continues to develop as a Safety.

I am still willing to give Lewis time because none of these guys have really played with each other. With that said I'd definitely like to see Brooks playing more and getting that in game experience. Brooks is a really good blitzer, tackler and solid cover guy so i wouldn't mind seeing him play in the box a bit.

[spitfire418]

Brooks is a really smart football player. His issue last year was just learning the defense and as a 2nd year guy he's still learning. Going back to FSU he was always more comfortable as a coverage guy and playing around the LOS then in center field so it'll be fun to see how he continues to develop as a Safety.

I am still willing to give Lewis time because none of these guys have really played with each other. With that said I'd definitely like to see Brooks playing more and getting that in game experience. Brooks is a really good blitzer, tackler and solid cover guy so i wouldn't mind seeing him play in the box a bit.

I agree with everything you said. He should definitely be put in on some blitzes or maybe even play some nickel corner.

[JoeyFlex5]

lol someone isnt being a fanboy and suggests a young player isnt mentally ready, better neg and tell him how wrong he is!

[Tru11]

lol someone isnt being a fanboy and suggests a young player isnt mentally ready, better neg and tell him how wrong he is!

 

if you aint a fan boy you wont be liked around these parts lol

[Ravenseconbeast]

to answer your question.. yes, our secondary can get worse, and starting a FS who is less mentally competent than the one were currently fielding is exactly how you make it worse.

terrence brooks isnt ready mentally.

honestly though, even will hill plays at an elite level and then has mental lapses, every safety we try out has a mental lapse, veterans who have been here for years like webb and jimmy have mental lapses, i am convinced(for the first time) that pees really is the issue, he likes this rotating secondary and rotating coverage philosophy, and that works when you have a brainiac at safety, ed reed was the perfect player for that system, nobody had to think, they just had to look at ed and let him point them in the right direction, now that every db has to be held accountable for a different role on every single snap, there are gonna be mental mistakes, especially when we keep switching pieces in and out and there is no chemistry.

TLDR; pees has the wrong philosophy for our defense in our current situation, and we need to simplify the coverage schemes and stop overthinking everything to the point that our players dont know what the hell their assignments are.

Mental lapse every 5seconds on the field..

[JoeyFlex5]

Mental lapse every 5seconds on the field..

from every single db, for 2 years straight, newbie and veteran.. theres one constant in that scenario and im starting to think that constant(pees) is the reason behind these mental lapses, he runs an extremely complex scheme in his secondary with players who cant mentally handle it.

 

if you aint a fan boy you wont be liked around these parts lol

yep, im ok with it, just telling some of these folks exactly what their thought process is when they lash out at me for making sense lol