2016 Cap Space

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Cutting Webb does nothing for this team but make it worse. CB's don't grow on trees unless you want another scrub, and if we get one it will be in the draft. Forsett isn't even costing much, and our line sucks right now. No back would be good behind it. The run blocking looks nothing like Kubiak's scheme. Glad you don't work for the Ravens.

Yes. But corners who are older constantly hurt, and are inconsistent don't deserve that kind of money.

Um... Yeah he's not. I agree there. But RB is an easier position to replace honestly. For a lot cheaper. And Justin is more or less the product of a good oline who's about to fall off the wagon anyway.

We need a corner bad via FA and I just don't trust Webb to stay healthy

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Jared Allen to Panthers for a conditional 6th rd pick and are only paying $850,000 of his salary while the Bears are eating $11mill.

With our need for more pass rush wish we would've pulled this move off. I know he's a 4-3 DE, but for that money we could afford to bring him in as just a situational pass rusher when playing a 4 man front.

Doom-Williams-Jernigan-Allen with Smith, Mosley and either McLellan, Brown or even bringing on an extra safety like Brooks in obvious passing situations wouldn't look bad, with Babin rotating in and giving you situational pass rush in 3 man fronts.

At $850,000 could've easily got him under the cap, and while aging and not a great scheme fit he could've been a good one year bandaid to maybe help kick start this pass rush.

[rmw10]

Jared Allen to Panthers for a conditional 6th rd pick and are only paying $850,000 of his salary while the Bears are eating $11mill.

With our need for more pass rush wish we would've pulled this move off. I know he's a 4-3 DE, but for that money we could afford to bring him in as just a situational pass rusher when playing a 4 man front.

Doom-Williams-Jernigan-Allen with Smith, Mosley and either McLellan, Brown or even bringing on an extra safety like Brooks in obvious passing situations wouldn't look bad, with Babin rotating in and giving you situational pass rush in 3 man fronts.

At $850,000 could've easily got him under the cap, and while aging and not a great scheme fit he could've been a good one year bandaid to maybe help kick start this pass rush.

Allen and the Bears met up and discussed 4-3 teams that he would be willing to play for. It was obvious he wasn't a scheme fit there and was looking to go back to where he was best.

[Ravens2343]

There are reports out that the Bears are looking to unload any players that do not fit their scheme or are left over from the previous regime that are worth value.  Ozzie should be on the phone immediately offering something for Alshon Jeffrey.  We need a receiver like him and we could probably get him for a 3rd round pick.  I would explore that opportunity if I were the Ravens and it would fill one of our biggest needs

[rmcjacket23]

There are reports out that the Bears are looking to unload any players that do not fit their scheme or are left over from the previous regime that are worth value.  Ozzie should be on the phone immediately offering something for Alshon Jeffrey.  We need a receiver like him and we could probably get him for a 3rd round pick.  I would explore that opportunity if I were the Ravens and it would fill one of our biggest needs

I don't see it happening...

 

1. Jeffery is most likely a building block for the Bears, not somebody they should be trading.

2. I would guess that the initial offer for him would be a first round pick, and it'd likely take more than that to get him. He's in the final year of his rookie deal and in his prime.

3. While we might have the cap space next year, Jeffery will fetch a very large contract. Easily north of $10M a year. He single handedly could eat up most of our available cap space.

 

In short, I don't see it happening. A more likely target from the Bears would possibly be Martellus Bennett, though his contract scares me a bit.

Edited September 29, 2015 by rmcjacket23

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Allen and the Bears met up and discussed 4-3 teams that he would be willing to play for. It was obvious he wasn't a scheme fit there and was looking to go back to where he was best.

 

Got ya, didnt read that part of it, though it makes sense.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

I don't see it happening...

1. Jeffery is most likely a building block for the Bears, not somebody they should be trading.

2. I would guess that the initial offer for him would be a first round pick, and it'd likely take more than that to get him. He's in the final year of his rookie deal and in his prime.

3. While we might have the cap space next year, Jeffery will fetch a very large contract. Easily north of $10M a year. He single handedly could eat up most of our available cap space.

In short, I don't see it happening. A more likely target from the Bears would possibly be Martellus Bennett, though his contract scares me a bit.

Man if the Bears were somehow dumb enough to unload Jeffery then yes, I would take a 3rd rounder. He was their best WR on the team even with Marshall.

We would never be able to resign him though. That's the biggest problem

[ratedr]

LMAO the Bears are not getting rid of Jeffrey, put down the pipe.

 

Bennett is a good player but I'm willing to roll with our TEs. Not a need imo.

Edited September 29, 2015 by ratedr

[Ravens2343]

LMAO the Bears are not getting rid of Jeffrey, put down the pipe.

 

Bennett is a good player but I'm willing to roll with our TEs. Not a need imo.

 

I admit that the chances of us getting him are less then 1%, but it is not entirely impossible to see the Bears trading him.  They drafted Kevin White and have Marquess Wilson (who they seem to be high on).  They could opt to take a 1st or 2nd rounder for him and rebuild through the draft.  The Bears have one of the most talentless rosters in the NFL and are in a rebuilding mode now

[ratedr]

I admit that the chances of us getting him are less then 1%, but it is not entirely impossible to see the Bears trading him.  They drafted Kevin White and have Marquess Wilson (who they seem to be high on).  They could opt to take a 1st or 2nd rounder for him and rebuild through the draft.  The Bears have one of the most talentless rosters in the NFL and are in a rebuilding mode now

Potentially...I think he'd be worth as high as a 2nd, but ONLY if we gave him a new deal immediately. He's a FA after this year.

[usmccharles]

I have no issue paying Jeffrey a new deal and giving up a 2nd to get him. I think that's a no Brainer. Would he command Randal Cobb money?

[Ravens2343]

Potentially...I think he'd be worth as high as a 2nd, but ONLY if we gave him a new deal immediately. He's a FA after this year.

 

A new deal should not be a huge problem, especially since it would give us a true #1 for the next 4-5 years.  If this were possible it would be great but I highly doubt it.  Eventually we will need to pay or draft a true #1 receiver

[rmcjacket23]

A new deal should not be a huge problem, especially since it would give us a true #1 for the next 4-5 years.  If this were possible it would be great but I highly doubt it.  Eventually we will need to pay or draft a true #1 receiver

The problem is there's a huge difference between drafting one and signing one in FA...

 

A drafted stud, like Jeffery, you get for cheap for at least 4 years, and sometimes 5. When you pay a FA top tier money, you get that player for cheap for a total of 0 years.

[Ravens2343]

The problem is there's a huge difference between drafting one and signing one in FA...

 

A drafted stud, like Jeffery, you get for cheap for at least 4 years, and sometimes 5. When you pay a FA top tier money, you get that player for cheap for a total of 0 years.

 

I understand that, but it is hard for us to draft one always picking at the bottom of the first round.  I would much rather pay for someone proven like Jeffery now and use our top picks to bring in a pass rusher, cornerback and left tackle.  A lot of our cap is tied up in dead money and older players, we could afford Jeffery if it were possible to get him

[ratedr]

I have no issue paying Jeffrey a new deal and giving up a 2nd to get him. I think that's a no Brainer. Would he command Randal Cobb money?

Probably more...Cobb took a bit of a discount.

Honestly, I'd be fine with it. Who here really trusts Ozzie to draft a good receiver?

[PurpleCity5]

I would give up a 2nd for Alshon personally, no question about it. However, I doubt he's available. Im sure FO can extend him since we'll have more $$$ to work with. Seems unlikely since Alshon is young and a stud. Seems doubtful Chicago would trade him and typically WRs don't get traded during the season.

[lgcs27288]

Let the fire sale begin, both Jeffery and Forte are on the block.

[rmcjacket23]

Let the fire sale begin, both Jeffery and Forte are on the block.

Just rumors, haven't been confirmed (and it likely would never be). Its just speculation from people guessing who would be dealt.

 

Still see no reason why Jeffery would be on this list, and Forte obviously would just be a very expensive rental for a team that's currently 0-3.

[rmw10]

Just rumors, haven't been confirmed (and it likely would never be). Its just speculation from people guessing who would be dealt.

 

Still see no reason why Jeffery would be on this list, and Forte obviously would just be a very expensive rental for a team that's currently 0-3.

 

As you said, no confirmation, but it does seem Alshon could be moved.  Word is that the Bears don't expect him to come back after his contract is up and they feel they could get better value by trading him.  The big kicker is that a trade for him by any team would likely be predicated on an extension before they give up the pick it would cost.

[rmcjacket23]

As you said, no confirmation, but it does seem Alshon could be moved.  Word is that the Bears don't expect him to come back after his contract is up and they feel they could get better value by trading him.  The big kicker is that a trade for him by any team would likely be predicated on an extension before they give up the pick it would cost.

Yup, high draft pick (probably a first rounder) and a huge contract.

 

They can also franchise Jeffery if they want to, and I don't expect them to let him walk without getting gigantic compensation for him.

 

As I said earlier, Martellus Bennett seems like a much more likely trade candidate.

[PurpleCity5]

Oh wow, so Alshon is up for trade....

Im all in for move. Absolutely no question I'd give up a 2nd for Alshon!

[PurpleCity5]

If I'm Ozzie I make the trade. Alshon Jeffery's a proven talent at WR, something we lack. If we give him an extension we won't have to draft a WR high and can focus on pas rusher and DB. See how much they value him by offering a 4th rounder.

Also, that 2nd round pick would probably be used on a WR anyways, a proven guy and a game changer.

[rmw10]

Yup, high draft pick (probably a first rounder) and a huge contract.

 

They can also franchise Jeffery if they want to, and I don't expect them to let him walk without getting gigantic compensation for him.

 

As I said earlier, Martellus Bennett seems like a much more likely trade candidate.

 

Sounds like they don't want to use the tag on him either since it's clear he's not exactly happy there.  Still not going to be cheap by any means, but it genuinely seems like he can be had if a team comes in with a strong offer.

[GrimCoconut]

I would certainly entertain this idea to trade for Jeffrey. We'd be stupid not to try. We're struggling at WR and he's familiar with the system Trestman runs and Trestman knows him. It's an ideal match.

[Cillmatic]

Also, that 2nd round pick would probably be used on a WR anyways, a proven guy and a game changer.

Isn't he in a contract year?

[rmcjacket23]

Isn't he in a contract year?

Yes. The draft pick compensation is only a small piece of the pie it would take to bring him here.

 

He would easily command north of $10M annually. Also, not sure where any of the draft pick compensation estimates have come from, but I don't think a second rounder would get it done.

[PurpleCity5]

Isn't he in a contract year?

Yeah, but we have plenty of expiring dead money cap hits and contracts, I'm confident we could retain him if we traded for him. 

[rmcjacket23]

Yeah, but we have plenty of expiring dead money cap hits and contracts, I'm confident we could retain him if we traded for him. 

Sure... just makes it difficult to retain some of our other players and sign some guys.

 

Certainly makes adding secondary help exponentially more difficult.

[GrimCoconut]

That might be an issue. He just had Trestman as HC, don't know if he'd want to play for him, last thing we want is for Jeffery to pull a "TO" on us... If you know what I mean.

I dunno. It could be great or maybe not. I would imagine he'd want to come here. Him and Smith Sr would be lethal especially when Perriman returns. We'd have great depth and could mix it up a lot.

[Cillmatic]

Sure... just makes it difficult to retain some of our other players and sign some guys.

Certainly makes adding secondary help exponentially more difficult.

Good point. I'm split on the trade now.