The good, bad and ugly vs Bengals

[HoldingCall]

That's what happens when you have alot young guys on the team .

True, and clean up half the penalties and this team is 3-0.

[The Raven]

Quick report:

 

Secondary was trash across the board. Jimmy's pick almost avenged his bad game, but it didn't.

 

Linebackers were slow and didn't fill well in run game.

 

Defensive line was sluggish for a good bit of the game, but they did look better than last week.

 

Receivers... Do we have any not named Steve? Did Kamar dress?

 

Tight ends were definitely a bright spot, but they need to shine brighter. Maxx had a shot at making an ESPN Top 10 play today and didn't.

 

Zuttah, Osemele, and Hurst almost looked 2013 season bad. Zuttah was Geno's fuss, Osemele seems to have forgotten how to football, and Hurst is just Hurst. Yanda and Wagner didn't have bad games, but even they could've done better.

 

Juice looked good. Other backs, not so much.

 

Joe did what he could. Not a good game but not a bad one.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Not that we deserve it....

But it's crazy to think that even while playing as horribly as we have, a couple plays going the other way and we're sitting at 3-0.

The penalties is key spots are killer. 2 weeks in a row personal fouls have done us in.

This is 3 years in a row now that we've allowed AJ Green to score a really long game winning/changing TD. You'd think that you would always provide safety help over the top at this point and force someone else to beat us. But nope! I've defended Pees but that's squarely on his shoulders. Kendrick Lewis should NEVER be matched up 1on1 with him.

Flaccos mechanics have been awful this season. Idk what's going on but he's throwing off his back foot almost every play.

I just don't know what to say. We could win the next 3 and that would be exactly where I expected us to be - but I'm not convinced this "rebuilt" secondary or our Suggsless pass rush can stop anyone.

Perriman needs to get on the field ASAP. Without a deep threat there's no space for the offense to operate. The defense should be embarassed. You just know that when we take a lead in the 4th that were going to give it up.

Undisciplined, uninspired. This team needs a leader. We need Babin and Perriman on the field in the worst way. And when you're counting on a 30-something journeyman and a rookie to save your season, you're in trouble.

It's not over. If we can rattle off 3 straight were still in decent shape with a 2-1 division record... Bc like I said we've played about as poorly as possible and legitimately could have, maybe even should have won all 3 games so far.

I'm just worried that this is who we actually are.

[ratedr]

vs. CLE

vs. STL

Where are the other wins? I don't see them.

[HoldingCall]

I don't think the offensive line played well at all, and I said as much in my long post, but Forsett didn't look like he had the best vision, didn't really find cutback lanes, didn't break any tackles, and was slow when bouncing runs to the outside. I mean, yeah, he got stuffed on quite a few runs because the interior left just allowed players to knife in, but those outside runs were just brutal at times.

I agree and have been stating that the OL isn't playing to the level expected, but neither is the rest of the team.

[balfan23]

vs. CLE

vs. STL

Where are the other wins? I don't see them.

We beat PIT and Vick next week. 

[ratedr]

We beat PIT and Vick next week.

PIT has beaten us with Batch so...

[-Truth-]

To be fair, it was hard for him to even get out of the backfield with how poorly the left side of the line played.  When he had space, he generally made something happen.

I agree. The running lanes were sparse and few and far between. It was often muddied up at or near the LOS.

[ludy51]

PIT has beaten us with Batch so...

That was then, this is now

[ratedr]

What's the deal with Monroe? Will he be back on Thursday? Hurst is awful.

Edited September 27, 2015 by ratedr

[balfan23]

vs. CLE

vs. STL

Where are the other wins? I don't see them.

Are you watching the Dolphins? Wow. We've been inconsistent. They've been tragic. 

[jazz1988]

I can give you one recent example of what can happen. Jim Harbaugh and the niners. One year he is in the SB and the next year he starts losing control of his team and the next year he is gone. At some point someone has to take the blame. We can point fingers at the defense one week and the offense the next but sooner or later someone is responsible for the whole affair.

 

Did Jim Harbaugh really lose control of the team or was it really the fact that Harbaugh and The Niners  general manager didn't get along which became distraction? It's hard for any head coach or even the players to stay focus  on winning games when all those reports kept coming out.. Honestly the 49ers made a foolish decision to let Harbaugh go especially with all the success he game them but ego over came  it all and they may actually pay for that.

[balfan23]

PIT has beaten us with Batch so...

So ... what? I'm just saying next week and win is possible. So, I'm saying its possible. 

[HoldingCall]

Quick report:

 

Secondary was trash across the board. Jimmy's pick almost avenged his bad game, but it didn't.

 

Linebackers were slow and didn't fill well in run game.

 

Defensive line was sluggish for a good bit of the game, but they did look better than last week.

 

Receivers... Do we have any not named Steve? Did Kamar dress?

 

Tight ends were definitely a bright spot, but they need to shine brighter. Maxx had a shot at making an ESPN Top 10 play today and didn't.

 

Zuttah, Osemele, and Hurst almost looked 2013 season bad. Zuttah was Geno's Fuss, Osemele seems to have forgotten how to football, and Hurst is just Hurst. Yanda and Wagner didn't have bad games, but even they could've done better.

 

Juice looked good. Other backs, not so much.

 

Joe did what he could. Not a good game but not a bad one.

I've been saying this but too many other areas have problems also. They still had an opportunity to win.

[rmw10]

What's the deal with Monroe? Will he be back on Thursday. Hurst is awful.

 

I sure hope so.  Hurst isn't game 1 vs. the Broncos Hurst, but it's still brutal.  Michael Johnson may not have the sack numbers to back it up, but he was abusing Hurst all game.

[rmw10]

Meanwhile, McPhee with back to back sacks.  It'd be nice to have his pass rush right now.  Dumervil is getting all of the attention.

[MiamiRaven55]

PIT has beaten us with Batch so...

At this point Bradshaw could throw for 350 against us

[BmoreBird22]

I sure hope so.  Hurst isn't game 1 vs. the Broncos Hurst, but it's still brutal.  Michael Johnson may not have the sack numbers to back it up, but he was abusing Hurst all game.

I'm just embarrassed to see him in pass protection because a lot of the time, it doesn't even look like he attempted a kick slide. He just looks like he anchors his feet and then tries to use solely upper body to shove the rusher wide.

[MiamiRaven55]

Are you watching the Dolphins? Wow. We've been inconsistent. They've been tragic.

But at least have 1 win

[wizard1]

We've had issues at FS since Reed left. Not looking for a new Reed, just for anyone that isn't saying - oh wow, I should be covering the other teams #1 receiver deep shouldn't I? Whoops, my bad ...

 

No fixing that this year. I don't know how we fix it for the future. Can't see us getting that in the draft and these bargain basement vets are not the answer. We never have the cap space to go and get someone valuable at that position and I don't see that changing next year. 

 That's because we are still paying Ray Rice. 2 more years of carrying that garbage on our payroll. We can free up some cap space by releasing the likes of Canty ( who canty play anymore ) Pitta because his career is over ( just ask Bo Jackson ) and some other dead weight we are dragging around like Aiken and Webb.

[CalvinSmoke]

It's interesting reading posts here. Why some of you had high expectations for this club....last season was fool's gold. We played a bad AFC-S (still lost to HOU and struggled in wins vs TEN & JAX, at home) and a horrible NFC-S, swept the div but if not for Forsett's 180 yd. 2 TD performance and Hill's pick-6, we probably would've lost at NOS. We lost to the contenders: IND, swept by CIN, SD, PIT (the latter 2 were blowouts)

Flacco is what he always was except for lightning in a bottle in the SB run...average!!! He's not going to overcome this team's weaknesses, extend plays, be consistently accurate or aware of pocket threats. It ain't Trestman's fault (although his play-calling is suspect) That's basic QBing!!! In his 8th season, constantly starts slow yet to make a pro-bowl...that's top 3 in the conference. He's got a top 3 NFL contract although I get NFL economics and need for a QB for any possible success. Add pinning hopes on a rookie WR (Perriman), w/o pre-season snaps, a rep for brick hands, on a team notorious for not producing/developing WRs...no matter the WR coach, no WR other can get separation? None!! Anyone dare to criticize Oz for his personnel moves, acquisitions?

This is a def franchise, always will be even in the Joe era. Except for the 2013 season, post-SB, the D has always outranked the O, at least statistically. When the D has played poorly, which is rare even under Pees, UGH...Joe hasn't match the opposing QB. When the D keeps us in games, Joe has seldom sealed or stole a W. And you guys blame SSS at DEN, if Joe didn't throw that bonehead Talib pick-6, a GW TD effort would not have been necessary. That's atypical SSS, but typical Joe. He misses SSS wide open at OAK, then a game-ending INT. Harbs has made bad in-game/timeout gaffes, we've had some suspect OCs playcall, injuries, bad drafts, etc...etc.. but this teams success/failure is mostly on Joe...IMHO.

your tripping, we were a solid team last year and the playoffs proved that. Glaring weakness was our secondary and it still is. We are 0-3 but we are probably the most talented 0-3 team of all time. We took two top 5 teams down to the wire and nearly beat them. The Ravens aren't trash, this just isn't their year.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

No Sami. You're just wrong. Ozzie has drafted the past three season

Maxx Williams

Carl Davis

CJ Mosley

Jernigan

Urschel

Crockett

Brandon Williams

Wagner

Juice.

And he's the problem?

Harbaugh had another playoff team last year.

Injuries have messed the team up more than anything. And I don't care if Elam is a bust. Generally if you get three good players in a draft class it's a good draft

[balfan23]

In the next 9 games - the only game that really looks like a clear loss is AZ. Obviously, we'll be lucky to split them if we don't start playing better, but all I'm saying is if we can get some aspects of our game on track, we could conceivably make a run.  

[balfan23]

But at least have 1 win

yes, they do ... so I guess that means we have no chance of beating them. 

[CalvinSmoke]

In the next 9 games - the only game that really looks like a clear loss is AZ. Obviously, we'll be lucky to split them if we don't start playing better, but all I'm saying is if we can get some aspects of our game on track, we could conceivably make a run.

your right, because we should be undefeated

[ratedr]

I will say this...if they manage to beat PIT, the season is alive. Making it to the bye at 3-4 would keep the playoffs alive.

That said, I don't think they will. I'm thinking 1-6 before the bye, 2-5 if we're lucky.

[Bmoreazfan]

I guess we can consider a 4-12 season the most likely scenario at best this year...

[Sami84]

No Sami. You're just wrong. Ozzie has drafted the past three season

Maxx Williams

Carl Davis

CJ Mosley

Jernigan

Urschel

Crockett

Brandon Williams

Wagner

Juice.

And he's the problem?

Harbaugh had another playoff team last year.

Injuries have messed the team up more than anything. And I don't care if Elam is a bust. Generally if you get three good players in a draft class it's a good draft

 

really.

Already crowning maxx and carl as sure things? Jernigan hasn't done much this year.

 

Juice? whats he done?

A backup gaurd/center? *urschel

 

try again. I don't see a peter boulware never mind a suggs or lewis/reed in there.

[Edgar]

Joe is the least of our problems and he made plays today but that pick in the first half was ridiculous.

upshaw has to pic that gift on the bengals first drive. These are plays that losing teams make.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

really.

Already crowning maxx and carl as sure things? Jernigan hasn't done much this year.

Juice? whats he done?

A backup gaurd/center? *urschel

try again. I don't see a peter boulware never mind a suggs or lewis/reed in there.

That's your problem. Not every player has to be a superstar to win a SB. I'm sorry you view it that way. But that's not how it is.