The good, bad and ugly vs Bengals

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

When is Perriman set to play?

????

[Raving_Heathen]

When Perriman comes back this team won't even look like the same team. I personally think we didn't look horrible today... Offense started rolling. AJ green is just too good.

 

At his current rate of progress, he probably won't see the field until next season. But maybe that's what you meant.

[3-4ravdef509]

Joes made his mistakes but in the end he has put us in the position to win all 3 games in the final 2 minutes.

 

This is true.

 

Joe does need to refine his footwork, but hard to judge him when he has no running game, inconsistent protection and no weapons.

[Dr. Kelley]

The only thing dean pees prevent defense prevents is a ravens win

[Sami84]

This is true.

 

Joe does need to refine his footwork, but hard to judge him when he has no running game, inconsistent protection and no weapons.

 

joe is a very very flawed QB. His footwork bad. He also doesn't attempt to run enough. Basically he has average to below average awareness. His weight on passes is shockingly bad. One of the worst in the league..outside of having a big arm and great zip when he steps into the pass ..he really isn't that good at anything else.

[IceDevilHH81]

It's interesting reading posts here. Why some of you had high expectations for this club....last season was fool's gold. We played a bad AFC-S (still lost to HOU and struggled in wins vs TEN & JAX, at home) and a horrible NFC-S, swept the div but if not for Forsett's 180 yd. 2 TD performance and Hill's pick-6, we probably would've lost at NOS. We lost to the contenders: IND, swept by CIN, SD, PIT (the latter 2 were blowouts)

 

Flacco is what he always was except for lightning in a bottle in the SB run...average!!! He's not going to overcome this team's weaknesses, extend plays, be consistently accurate or aware of pocket threats. It ain't Trestman's fault (although his play-calling is suspect) That's basic QBing!!! In his 8th season, constantly starts slow yet to make a pro-bowl...that's top 3 in the conference. He's got a top 3 NFL contract although I get NFL economics and need for a QB for any possible success. Add pinning hopes on a rookie WR (Perriman), w/o pre-season snaps, a rep for brick hands, on a team notorious for not producing/developing WRs...no matter the WR coach, no WR other can get separation? None!! Anyone dare to criticize Oz for his personnel moves, acquisitions?

 

This is a def franchise, always will be even in the Joe era. Except for the 2013 season, post-SB, the D has always outranked the O, at least statistically. When the D has played poorly, which is rare even under Pees, UGH...Joe hasn't match the opposing QB. When the D keeps us in games, Joe has seldom sealed or stole a W. And you guys blame SSS at DEN, if Joe didn't throw that bonehead Talib pick-6, a GW TD effort would not have been necessary. That's atypical SSS, but typical Joe. He misses SSS wide open at OAK, then a game-ending INT. Harbs has made bad in-game/timeout gaffes, we've had some suspect OCs playcall, injuries, bad drafts, etc...etc.. but this teams success/failure is mostly on Joe...IMHO.

 

Question is if it`s even possible in these days NFL to be a D-Team! All this flags in favor of Os ... 

Edited September 27, 2015 by IceDevilHH81

[PoeDinkum]

When is Perriman set to play?

2016.

We now know whose Madden rating re: injury/toughness is the lowest on the team.

[BmoreBird22]

Pees won't get fired. Name a time when a coordinator got fired when the team didn't have winning aspirations. He'll ride the season out, at worst, and get fired.

[Raving_Heathen]

Steve Smith honestly looked like the only reason this game was even close. It hurts me to see him looking so down in the press conference right now. He put this team on his back and the team let him down. 

 

He should just sit out the rest of the year, take a vacation with his family, and come back next year after we press the reset button.

[jazz1988]

arrington shouldn't be on the outside, for some reason I kept seeing Kendrick lewis covering slot and Harrington outside which makes no sense

 

It seems like Pees lost all faith in Melvin after he gave up a touchdown and cost a penality. I guess that actually force his hand to use Arrington and Kendrick differently.

[Purple_City39]

I'm just going to focus on the good after this game.

- Flacco will likely throw over 4k yards for the first time because he has no choice since this defense is so bad.

- I'll be able to save myself some time and energy arguing Jimmy Smith as top 5 this season.

- Perriman can get all the rest he needs since there's no point in rushing him back to this dumpster fire

- Darren Waller showed speed getting down the field on special teams.  They won't let him run deep on offense so it's good he gets a chance to show his speed somewhere

- Kamar Aiken won't be publicizing whatever incriminating pictures he has on Harbaugh/Ozzie/Biscotti that keeps him as the #2 WR for at least another week

- Jason Babin gets another week to earn a check from home

- Eugene Monroe get another week to earn a check from home

- Jimmy Smith played so bad that Webb looked good today.  Yay Webb

- It's easier to watch football games with no stress.  Going forward should be relaxing

- Steve Smith is proving to many that being old doesn't mean much.  At least not when your in the WRs corp.

- The game didn't end on an INT.

[PurpleCity5]

This defense is blowing too many leads. Its frustrating! 

[January J]

It's interesting reading posts here. Why some of you had high expectations for this club....last season was fool's gold. We played a bad AFC-S (still lost to HOU and struggled in wins vs TEN & JAX, at home) and a horrible NFC-S, swept the div but if not for Forsett's 180 yd. 2 TD performance and Hill's pick-6, we probably would've lost at NOS. We lost to the contenders: IND, swept by CIN, SD, PIT (the latter 2 were blowouts)

Flacco is what he always was except for lightning in a bottle in the SB run...average!!! He's not going to overcome this team's weaknesses, extend plays, be consistently accurate or aware of pocket threats. It ain't Trestman's fault (although his play-calling is suspect) That's basic QBing!!! In his 8th season, constantly starts slow yet to make a pro-bowl...that's top 3 in the conference. He's got a top 3 NFL contract although I get NFL economics and need for a QB for any possible success. Add pinning hopes on a rookie WR (Perriman), w/o pre-season snaps, a rep for brick hands, on a team notorious for not producing/developing WRs...no matter the WR coach, no WR other can get separation? None!! Anyone dare to criticize Oz for his personnel moves, acquisitions?

This is a def franchise, always will be even in the Joe era. Except for the 2013 season, post-SB, the D has always outranked the O, at least statistically. When the D has played poorly, which is rare even under Pees, UGH...Joe hasn't match the opposing QB. When the D keeps us in games, Joe has seldom sealed or stole a W. And you guys blame SSS at DEN, if Joe didn't throw that bonehead Talib pick-6, a GW TD effort would not have been necessary. That's atypical SSS, but typical Joe. He misses SSS wide open at OAK, then a game-ending INT. Harbs has made bad in-game/timeout gaffes, we've had some suspect OCs playcall, injuries, bad drafts, etc...etc.. but this teams success/failure is mostly on Joe...IMHO.

way off. Joe gave us the opportunity to win all 3 games. It was the defense who gave it up for s second straight week and couldn't stop them when you freaking knew a pass was coming. They were completely one dimensional n just let them March down the feild untested. They get the lead twice and give it up in a matter of 30 seconds. Flacco keeps the drive Alive again and converts a crucial 4th down to sss and whatdoyaknow? Another penalty turns it into a near impossible conversion. This once again was not on flacco. He's doing everything he can with 1 36 year old weapon.

[Guest]

Weve had 3 close losses, and for the 1st time in Franchise History start 0-3. 

 

To be better than 10-6, we have to go 11-2 in the remaining games.

 

This is so 2013

 

We have Steve Smith and no other receivers!

[gabrielgrissom]

Everyone not named Flacco, Maxx, Boyle, and Steve, and Mosely, and Doom. Walk home.

and so just forget brandon williams

[DomMcRaven]

I'm optimistic about the development of our TEs for the future.

[ratedr]

I don't know why so many are expecting much out of the offense with their one 36 year old receiver, young TEs, and no real RB to speak of. Though I will say that I bet Kubiak utilizes these TEs better.

Most of the top picks have gone to defense recently and the defense has shown absolutely nothing. Getting thumped like that for TDs on back to back drives? Ridiculous.

[jdynamite]

Top issues before the season: secondary and receivers.

Top issues now: secondary and receivers.

Add OL to that too apparently, miss you Kubiak.

I want to piggyback off you, and throw out last year many on the boards were praising Juan Castillo for how well the o-line played, I kept saying I'm crediting Kubiak for installing his version of the zone and extra detail. Now I'm not hearing anything about Juan, the same players from last year on that line.

If we keep losing Hargreaves here we come.

[PoeDinkum]

It's interesting reading posts here. Why some of you had high expectations for this club....last season was fool's gold. We played a bad AFC-S (still lost to HOU and struggled in wins vs TEN & JAX, at home) and a horrible NFC-S, swept the div but if not for Forsett's 180 yd. 2 TD performance and Hill's pick-6, we probably would've lost at NOS. We lost to the contenders: IND, swept by CIN, SD, PIT (the latter 2 were blowouts)

 

Flacco is what he always was except for lightning in a bottle in the SB run...average!!! He's not going to overcome this team's weaknesses, extend plays, be consistently accurate or aware of pocket threats. It ain't Trestman's fault (although his play-calling is suspect) That's basic QBing!!! In his 8th season, constantly starts slow yet to make a pro-bowl...that's top 3 in the conference. He's got a top 3 NFL contract although I get NFL economics and need for a QB for any possible success. Add pinning hopes on a rookie WR (Perriman), w/o pre-season snaps, a rep for brick hands, on a team notorious for not producing/developing WRs...no matter the WR coach, no WR other can get separation? None!! Anyone dare to criticize Oz for his personnel moves, acquisitions?

 

This is a def franchise, always will be even in the Joe era. Except for the 2013 season, post-SB, the D has always outranked the O, at least statistically. When the D has played poorly, which is rare even under Pees, UGH...Joe hasn't match the opposing QB. When the D keeps us in games, Joe has seldom sealed or stole a W. And you guys blame SSS at DEN, if Joe didn't throw that bonehead Talib pick-6, a GW TD effort would not have been necessary. That's atypical SSS, but typical Joe. He misses SSS wide open at OAK, then a game-ending INT. Harbs has made bad in-game/timeout gaffes, we've had some suspect OCs playcall, injuries, bad drafts, etc...etc.. but this teams success/failure is mostly on Joe...IMHO.

Meh. Re-post your pre-season record prediction for the year and then you might get some kudos. As for me, I incurred the negs just for posting my 9-7 prediction with no playoffs, including a 1-3 record after 4 games (believing we'd beat the Raiders at least). Lol.

[wizard1]

When are you guys gonna get it? This all starts with Harbaugh. He is the Head Coach and it's time for him to get on with his lifes work. He will not be Baltimore's head coach next year. We are a poorly coached team plain and simple. Poor execution, too many penalties, poor one dimensional offensive play calling, bad tackling, I watched guys laying around all over the field and I saw Harbaugh with that " deer in the headlights " look. Harbaugh, Trestman and Pees lets get um outta here and Newsome too!

[Dr. Kelley]

He's really not going to change much

People are putting way too much faith in him to drastically change things

[rmw10]

I'm optimistic about the development of our TEs for the future.

 

Definitely a positive to pull out.  Maxx Williams looks to have a good future.  He just has to mature a bit since he's still very young.  I don't ever see Boyle as a top option or anything, but I think he's a guy that can step up when you need him to.

[gabrielgrissom]

People are assuming Perriman will even be good. For all we know he might be a big fat BUST.

had a setback during warmups today

[AirforceOne79]

The ugly is the defense especially the secondary, plain and simple.

 

Ozzie Newsome dropped the ball on getting talent and Dean Pees coaching skills are suspect, because he can't quite seem to coach up the players that he has on the roster.

 

Flacco and the offense are putting up the necessary points to win games. Especially in the last two games. 33 and 24 points should be enough to win most games. People who are consistently blaming Flacco come off as trolls.

Edited September 27, 2015 by AirforceOne79

[Cillmatic]

The ugly is the defense especially the secondary, plain and simple.

Ozzie Newsome dropped the ball on getting talent and Dean Pees coaching skills are suspect, because he can't quite seem to coach up the players that he has on the roster.

Flacco and the offense are putting up the necessary points to win games. Especially in the last two games. 33 and 24 points should be enough to win most games. People who consistently blaming Flacco come off as trolls.

You mean STEVE is putting up the points.

[ratedr]

I want to piggyback off you, and throw out last year many on the boards were praising Juan Castillo for how well the o-line played, I kept saying I'm crediting Kubiak for installing his version of the zone and extra detail. Now I'm not hearing anything about Juan, the same players from last year on that line.

If we keep losing Hargreaves here we come.

I agree 100%, to me that line was a Kubiak creation. Kubiak ALWAYS has good OLs, just as he always had good RBs. He leaves and both regress? Not a coincidence.

I also want to know what happened to Flacco's mechanics. Back foot every other throw, though he stopped that in the second half at least.

[-Truth-]

It seems like Pees lost all faith in Melvin after he gave up a touchdown and cost a penality. I guess that actually force his hand to use Arrington and Kendrick differently.

 

Rashaan Melvin had a difficult game and just wasn't a factor this afternoon. He was badly turned around on the long pass early, then he was given a DPI for grabbing Marvin Jones and he was also in coverage on Jones' lone TD of the game. Honestly, Lardarius Webb may have been our best CB today. I don't recall him giving up much in coverage and he had a beautiful PD on the play right before the defensive TD. Kyle Arrington has struggled throughout the last few weeks. I'm hoping that Will Davis gets up to speed so we can see whether he deserves to be in dime packages. Hope that Jason Babin gets on the active roster as well.

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

You know its bad when the best thing the Ravens News page puts up is pics of cheerleaders.

[TuckerTime9]

He's really not going to change much

People are putting way too much faith in him to drastically change things

Good lord, do you not understand all teams have to gameplan for right now is stopping the run and underneath routes? At least if perriman is on the field they have to account for him going deep. I don't care if hes amazing or not, all he has to do is play the torrey smith role.

[RavensPunkXVX]

The ugly is the defense especially the secondary, plain and simple.

Ozzie Newsome dropped the ball on getting talent and Dean Pees coaching skills are suspect, because he can't quite seem to coach up the players that he has on the roster.

Flacco and the offense are putting up the necessary points to win games. Especially in the last two games. 33 and 24 points should be enough to win most games. People who consistently blaming Flacco come off as trolls.

The only thing that I can say about Flacco is that he has been way too inconsistent. I've never seen him like this. He's putting up numbers, but he's usually pretty darn accurate.