[News] Who's Playing, Who's Not vs. Bengals

[salamander]

The Bengals were just fortunate to avoid injuries so far. They're not doing anything differently than we are to prevent someone from being listed as "OUT".

My inclination would be to agree with you for the most part. However, since none of us really know what systems are in place for any team in regards to skill training, practice parameters such as weightlifting # of reps or duration of repetitive actions which could weaken or put small tears in tissue, warm up drills, rehab, etc., it has crossed my mind that perhaps there could be some variance from team to team how they approach things and how they respond treatment wise. The majority of injuries are matters of chance but I could not say that other teams aren't doing some things differently without being able to take a look at exactly what they are doing compared to what we are doing. I bet our coaches don't even know the differences since some of this information is not shared. I have been curious about this possibility because we seem to have a significant amount of injury related issues over the long haul. I just hope that the Ravens seek to stay on top of this evolving science of injury prevention and treatment and will use the most current and accurate data and incorporate it in to the practice, training and rehab regimens.  

Edited September 25, 2015 by salamander

[20306cab]

Is it just me, or is it the same guys who get hurt over and over again? I saw somebody else post this a while back, and I thought the same thing. Why not make Webb the full time punt and KO returner. Regardless of what you think of him, he is the best the Ravens have. And then I thought, why do they even need a return man? Every kickoff goes out of the endzone, and the opposing team never punts. And then I thought, when is the last time a RETURN man got injured? Can't remember one. Why not use Webb and Comp as return specialists, maybe they'll stay healthy the rest of their careers!

[purpledown]

Monroe is sort of stealing money. He is hurt most of the time.

[RavenzOz]

Two weeks and counting for a concussion? There's something else going on here. There's gonna be a lot of dead money if Hurst can win the starting LT role and Monroe get's cut at some stage, but hey that's the business side of football I guess. I'm rooting for the kid.

[omar586]

monroe has been a disappointing so far.

[balfan23]

Is it just me, or is it the same guys who get hurt over and over again? I saw somebody else post this a while back, and I thought the same thing. Why not make Webb the full time punt and KO returner. Regardless of what you think of him, he is the best the Ravens have. And then I thought, why do they even need a return man? Every kickoff goes out of the endzone, and the opposing team never punts. And then I thought, when is the last time a RETURN man got injured? Can't remember one. Why not use Webb and Comp as return specialists, maybe they'll stay healthy the rest of their careers!

I know people act as if being the return man is somehow certain death. Stats certainly show that these plays result in more injuries than the average play from scrimmage, but that is normally the cover teams or the return team blockers. 

 

The only guy I can come up with is Jacoby in the 2013 opener, but that was something of a freak accident with his own guy running into him. Playing scared and not putting your playmaker in position to make a play doesn't make sense to me. 

[CapoRocky]

If the Bengals are clicking, then expect the Ravens to lose by 3 TDs. I have been very disappointed with them on both sides of the ball so far this season.

[Fullblack_RAVEN]

When monroe went out w/ a concussion, i thought he'd be back by the raiders game. Usually, nfl'ers need 1 week to get back from a concussion. There's exceptions to that, though (jordan cameron). Monroe probably won't be back until the browns game at the earliest. The steelers game is on a short week... Maybe the ravens will get monroe and perriman back at the same time. Get well soon, fellas!

[The Greek]

and here i thought the orioles were bad. if we lose sunday it will really be ugly

[RaRaRavens]

Oih... it's gonna be another loong Sunday :(

[RaRaRavens]

I would not be shocked if we drop this one as well. And MAYBE get our first win against Steelers.

[stampedehero]

I expect us to win this one and the Steelers game.   It  looks like Joe, SSS, Croc and JF are the group to lead us into the red zone. We can do this.     

[Crusader]

Again Joe is not going to put up enough points that the defense gives up. Ravens need to rebuild this defense.

[757RavensFan]

My inclination would be to agree with you for the most part. However, since none of us really know what systems are in place for any team in regards to skill training, practice parameters such as weightlifting # of reps or duration of repetitive actions which could weaken or put small tears in tissue, warm up drills, rehab, etc., it has crossed my mind that perhaps there could be some variance from team to team how they approach things and how they respond treatment wise. The majority of injuries are matters of chance but I could not say that other teams aren't doing some things differently without being able to take a look at exactly what they are doing compared to what we are doing. I bet our coaches don't even know the differences since some of this information is not shared. I have been curious about this possibility because we seem to have a significant amount of injury related issues over the long haul. I just hope that the Ravens seek to stay on top of this evolving science of injury prevention and treatment and will use the most current and accurate data and incorporate it in to the practice, training and rehab regimens.

They're not doing anything special.

The Bengals will be short on the defensive line with Pat Sims (hip) out and Marcus Hardison (knee) doubtful.

[EliteRavens]

Its only been 2 games people. Calm down

[Crusader]

It would be easier if the Ravens had proven players on this team. IT looks like a collection of misfits and one year wonders.

[Tru11]

some of you need to stop thinking its easy to assemble a stacked roster like you can in madden...

[Bigjon5477]

If the Defense continues to give up the pass completions (like they have for the last 2 yrs) it will be a disaster.

[Crusader]

Thats why they get paid the big bucks to do! It's their only job.

[Crusader]

This will be the game Webb gets benched.

[Italian Raven]

They should just cut Monroe, he has for the most part been a waste.

While I definitely agree on the second part of your comment, Monroe is hitting the cap with 7.7M this year but his contract carries an important 14.3M in guaranteed money.. I'm pretty sure he'll keep wearing purple for another while

[cobrajet]

This will be the game Webb gets benched.

I really love that guy, but I have to admit he has been struggling, so you could be right. It is apparent that all his injuries have taken a toll. Some fans forget that he was a great cornerback before the injuries. He was extremely athletic and shifty and he always gave everything he had on the field. He defined the term "Play like a Raven" and then the injuries happened. He does so much good in the community, I am still hoping that he can get healthier and start playing better. I would guess Melvin and Davis will get some playing time very soon if Webb continues to struggle. Ozzie would not have made the trade for Davis if they were happy with the coverage. I think Webb could still be very good at covering the slot receiver but most are going to be upset at the money we are paying him if he is not lined up on the outside, and we brought in Arrington to cover the slot.

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

I want to know if Monroe can ever play like a Raven? Softest RT we ever had so far. Misses a game for every BOOBOO.

[RavenManiac#7]

Now I see why the Jaguars were more than willing to trade Eugene Monroe to us.

The thing is, I think if you check the records, Monroe didn't miss time when he was with the Jags. And as to his level of play, which I think has been surprisingly poor, I'm quite sure Ozzie studied Plenty of film on the guy before he would agree to trade for him. Ozzie simply Loves his draft picks and he doesn't part with them easily. I hate to say it, but I think Monroe was a rare mistake on Ozzie's part, although I don't think he could have known it. Monroe's disappointing play and frequent injury status has really risen since he had his protracted contract negotiations with us. If you remember, he took us right down to the wire and I think we were very leery of going into the season weak at the most important position on the OL. There's no way Ozzie could have predicted the future. I think Monroe took us for a ride and has been a Huge disappointment. And now, with so much guaranteed money due Monroe, upgrading at LT can probably only happen with Hurst or another young guy (drafted) that doesn't cost us More big money at that position.

[RavenManiac#7]

Asmodeus71 - I just dont get Monroe, he was solid in Jax, as soon as he signs with us its like he became webb jr.

There are some guys that love to play, have the fire, and earn their money. (think SSS) There are other guys who just want the money. I hate to say it, but I think Monroe played as well as he could long enough to get out of his rookie contract in order to score some big money in his next contract, because he knew he played at a vital position, LT. He knows how valuable LTs are and how hard to find they are as well. So, I think once he cashed in, his real work was done. Now he just cashes his paycheck. I don't think he cares one bit.

[Ravensfansince03]

Apparently there is a rise in nfl injuries. Some say that players of today might be bigger, faster, and stronger, but they are "less prepared to take a hit and deliver one". What do you guys think of this?

[Ravensfansince03]

I want to know if Monroe can ever play like a Raven? Softest RT we ever had so far. Misses a game for every BOOBOO.

 

Im more concerned with Jeremy Zuttah, I've seen him get laid on his butt too many times.

[tbird]

I want to know if Monroe can ever play like a Raven? Softest RT we ever had so far. Misses a game for every BOOBOO.

He is an LT.

[bigcatfrank1]

It looks like teams are pushing inside making Zuttah vulnerable. Once the guards have to pick up the inside then the Tackles are giving up the edge. quick dump passes over the middle to the TE like Flacco did with Daniels and Pitta early will help to delay the LB from crushing the middle. Also it will help open the off tackle Run. Lets get back to some bread and butter. This is a chess game, its time to counter teams that are working our weaknesses. Both these plays can be run out of under center or shotgun, roll outs and delay's will open up as well.

[Hardhitters]

Is Perriman a bust already without even touching the field??? Do he finally play, blow the tops off then bump his knee and be back out for another month or two. I wish Steve Smith was 21 and was giving us another 15 years, oh we would trade him like we did Boldin. Go Ravens, Crockett is a beast baby Grunk, trade up and draft another receiver next year.

Edited September 26, 2015 by Hardhitters