[News] Late For Work 9/25: When You Can Expect Breshad Perriman To Make NFL Debut

[NCMan]

Perriman on the field makes a difference in how the defense chooses to attack the Ravens. Whether or not he is 100%, whether or not he can run at 4.27 speed, all is irrelevant and I think we can afford to sit Waller and not make him active on game day(since we have thrown at him twice in two games) and put Perriman out there for a play or two just to see how they react. We really aren't losing a roster spot on gameday because Waller was only on the field for two plays the whole game, but I think just the presence of Perriman gives us more of an advantage than having Waller out there for just two plays. Don't put him in a position to hurt himself, but other than making the Bengals defense stop and think it also lets him get those first game rookie jitters out before we need him to go 100%.

Maybe if the "play callers" had used Waller in the end zone a few times, instead of underthrowing/lobbing rainbows, fades and jump balls to SSS, we might even learn how to win a game once in awhile. I just shake my head and wonder. Oh, and Waller is just as fast as Perriman.

Edited September 25, 2015 by NCMan

[JoeyFlex5]

Am I the only the feels like Joe overthrew Torrey on a normal basis and rarely underthrew him?  I am sure it happened but I don't remember him ever having an issue with underthrowing the deep ball. His issue was always underthrowing the shorter passes.  Before anyone says anything, yes I know Joe underthrew Jacoby on the famous touchdown but Joe pretty much put everything he had into that pass. 

torrey struggled greatly to locate the deep ball, in most of what was considered an "overthrow" to torrey you can visibly see him struggling to locate the ball, causing him to lose his speed and falling just short of the catch. 

 

this led to joe habitually underthrowing the ball, so if torrey lost his stride trying to locate the ball, at least it wouldnt be out of reach, but this led to forcing torrey to make contested catches, which he is totally incapable of..

 

this led to torrey developing ways to draw the PI, he didnt lead the league in drawn PI year after year by accident, he knew he struggled to catch the ball and he preferred to get good field positioning out of a deep pass rather than nothing at all, this is another thing that is visible when you watch him, when he stops and makes the db run into him etc. etc. 

 

but now? hes throwing off of his back foot. i dont know what happened to our OL, and i have a hard time believing that monroe made that much of a difference from hurst, but it looks horrible.

[runcontrol]

Joe underthrew Torrey A LOT!!  That is how/why Torrey would get so many PI calls.  Torry would have to wait or go back for Joe's passes causing the defender to run into Torrey.  

 

That happened from time to time, but there were a lot of PI calls because Torrey flat out beat them and the only way to stop him from getting a larger gain was to grab him.  

[curtis0360]

Beshard Perrimans timeline should look something like this. Right now he is taking limited reps, weaning him into the program and playbook. On sunday dress him, in case someone gets injured, then through the week leading up to pittsburgh, we put him on a full practice schedule. This should give him a good idea on how to execute the plays we expect him to make, however he wont be ready for full time play. Give him limited snaps, have him on the field so he can further prepared as a full time starter. Then leading up cleveland have full time practice and full time starting reps. Thats assuming he has been studying the playbook and the gameplan on what he is expected to do each week he was out. Which his responsibilities should be no more than streching the field and taking the top off of defenses, not a hard thing to warm up to considering his 424 speed. This right here is the perfect schedule for his return.

[salamander]

Remember what a joke it was having Dalton make the Pro-Bowl? Remember how bad he was when Harbs reluctantly "had" to actually play Dalton in the Pro-Bowl, ending in a loss? If the Ravens can get pressure on Dalton and rattle his cage, we will expose the "cable" version of Dalton and the Ravens come away with the win.

Edited September 25, 2015 by salamander

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

It looks to me like Joe is only comfortable and trusting with one WR and thats SSS. In the Raiders game Joe looked like he was getting comfortable throwing to Gillmore but when he threw to the other WR's he looked like he had a lack of trust in their ability to perform until later in the game. Just my opinion but none of the other WR's have really stepped their game up and all look and play like they should be third deep on the depth chart.

[curtis0360]

Also arent we forgetting Kamar Aiken, the dude had a huge day sunday.

[balfan23]

I think there are some in the national media that are dying us to fall on our faces and a loss this weekend will indicate that this year is an impending disaster. Let's disappoint them, boys.

[omar586]

all perriman have 2 do is run down da field, 2 spread da D.

[The Greek]

Also arent we forgetting Kamar Aiken, the dude had a huge day sunday.

i saw his huge fumble

[Ravensfansince03]

Reading that article was great. Even greater because we knew what that 6-foot-1 linebacker would go on to do.

[Ravensfansince03]

i saw his huge fumble

 

Yea I still think he's too soft.

[runcontrol]

Maybe if the "play callers" had used Waller in the end zone a few times, instead of underthrowing/lobbing rainbows, fades and jump balls to SSS, we might even learn how to win a game once in awhile. I just shake my head and wonder. Oh, and Waller is just as fast as Perriman.

 

I think Waller needs to prove that he can make plays before they put him into situations like that.  While the guy has a lot of potential, he is still raw and has very little experience playing against NFL level talent.  Guys like Gillmore and Brown, who are about as tall as Waller are guys they were rather use in those situations.  

 

Also, I think you meant to say Waller is about as fast as Torrey.  Torrey ran a 4.42,  Waller ran a 4.47, but Perriman ran a 4.27.   

[Militant X 1]

Just ball....just win!

[January J]

I'm hoping Breshad is ready for the Pittsburgh game. Their secondary is very weak and I would like to see if he can take advantage of them even if he's just a decoy.

bingo.

[January J]

torrey struggled greatly to locate the deep ball, in most of what was considered an "overthrow" to torrey you can visibly see him struggling to locate the ball, causing him to lose his speed and falling just short of the catch.

this led to joe habitually underthrowing the ball, so if torrey lost his stride trying to locate the ball, at least it wouldnt be out of reach, but this led to forcing torrey to make contested catches, which he is totally incapable of..

this led to torrey developing ways to draw the PI, he didnt lead the league in drawn PI year after year by accident, he knew he struggled to catch the ball and he preferred to get good field positioning out of a deep pass rather than nothing at all, this is another thing that is visible when you watch him, when he stops and makes the db run into him etc. etc.

but now? hes throwing off of his back foot. i dont know what happened to our OL, and i have a hard time believing that monroe made that much of a difference from hurst, but it looks horrible.

exactly. Torrey had a tracking issue. Wasn't Joes problem. Well it became his problem but he wasn't THE problem.

[balfan23]

The film shows Perriman running at nothing close to full speed. Based on this, I feel like best case is a return for the Browns game. It is encouraging to see him out there, but we need to be realistic.

 

The idea that he can get on the field at no where near 100% and force teams to have to respect his speed and force them to game plan for him is crazy. You can't put him out there as a decoy, if he's not really ready. Otherwise, you risk one hit and a major set back and 8 more weeks out.

[Maryland]

I can't help but look at our common opponent--Oakland on the road--and think the Bengals and Ravens are in two different leagues right now. The Bengals had no problem shutting out Carr when he was in, yet we struggled immensely against such a bad team. Hopefully this does not mean we are worse than the Raiders this year.

[burnbigben]

I think Waller needs to prove that he can make plays before they put him into situations like that.  While the guy has a lot of potential, he is still raw and has very little experience playing against NFL level talent.  Guys like Gillmore and Brown, who are about as tall as Waller are guys they were rather use in those situations.  

 

Also, I think you meant to say Waller is about as fast as Torrey.  Torrey ran a 4.42,  Waller ran a 4.47, but Perriman ran a 4.27.   

 

Let's try to remember that this was hand timed which is always substantially better than electronic timing.  Taylor Mays also ran a hand timed 4.24 before the official timing came out.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdPmexUhjWk

[DonnieRaven]

I cant wait for this day hopefully it will shine as day worth remembering, I know this cat is fast maybe not 4.24 speeds but if he runs that fast by hand timing then that's gotta be worth sub 4.4 speeds and in reality with pads prolly around 4.5 - 4.6 speeds which is still fast just hope he doesn't lose focus

[FloridalovesRavens]

The key to the win is to rattle Dalton!!!!!

[Purple Dawg 96]

Teams will try and do Perriman like the pats did Torrey and put the CB up on Perriman when Joe calls hike Perriman will shoot pass the CB same as Torrey against the pats and the safety will pick it off over the top like the pats did! Can't fall for this again! Smh! Joe gotta move around in the pocket and stop waiting on the "the wall of china" to develop and get his WRs some time to get open! Joe can run more it will help the Ravens TREMENDOUSLY!

[Darkraven23]

Perriman has mental focus issues but torrey never did he always could track the deep ball we saw that his rookie season half the time joe flacco does overthrow because i mean this man can flick his wrist for an easy 70 yards without setting his feet so you cant blame torrey because of joes arms strength because when he needed torrey the most torrey would be there

[burnstr19]

I'm fine with hearing about Perriman every other sentence if he put up Josh Gordon type numbers in his first 2 games but he hasn't. He has done approximately nothing. We are putting him on a pedestal that will be too high for him to come close to.

I really want SSS to get on him and take him under his wing and let him know that he can be out of the league as fast as his forty.

[stampedehero]

Dalton should be looking at M & T turf rather than the out strectched hands of his recievers.

[Crusader]

2016 if he don't hurt himself getting on the practice field.

[Crusader]

That is why I was routing for Brown but John seems to like weak players i.e defense.

[OzzieBisciotti]

Perriman isn't Torrey Smith... Maybe Jacoby but not Torrey.... Torrey was always clutch when we needed him to be, so let's not brand Perriman as the band-aid, immediate solutions...

[Fastynart]

Who the hell cares when Perriman will debut? The porous defense gave up 37 points to Oakland. Good grief, Oakland! Instead of addressing our problems on defense, somehow the Ravens decided they needed to draft an unproven and quesitonable wide receiver with their first draft pick. This guy was a pass dropper in college. Did anyone look at his play? Now, he is hurt, unable to get on the field to prove that he can hack it in the NFL. OMG, if I hear one more word about how the Ravens need a wide receiver, I am gonna lose it. How stupid can you be? We heed help on defense. If the Oakland game didn't prove that the Ravens have their priorities mixed up, Cincy and Pittsburgh will.

[January J]

Looks like we wont be seeing him for another month now. I'm not counting on him at all this year so if he comes back and produces then great, it will all be extra icing on the cake.