[News] What You Missed vs. Raiders

[rpolla72]

Stay strong Ravens Nation! There are 16 games in a season for a reason.

[Purple Dawg 96]

Throw the raiders game out the Ravens that showed up in denver will be ready in Bmore this Sunday!

[Purple Dawg 96]

Where were these pics after the pats game to show my point Joe could of ran up the left side of the field Marlon across the middle and the safety 5yds from Torrey before Joe released the ball?! SMH I'm jus sayin

[CQ1]

Hmmm, "what you (I) missed" ? I think that we all had seen more than enough with that fiasco.

Its time to pull something out of our rear-....feathers !

[NCMan]

to be honest... hill is wrong, legitimate penalty, maybe not holding but it is 100% illegal contact, he didnt already hold the inside, and the receiver didnt initiate contact, you can see hill sidestep into his path and pull back to prepare for a jam to the chest, which he did, at about 10 yards, which is double the allotted yardage for contact... and man, why did we run the same play the patriots did in the playoffs, wasnt it made illegal this offseason? and all the moaning and groaning and calling the pats cheaters, and then we turn around and do the same thing... that upsets me.

Because it wasn't the same play. Try reading the article.

[Crusader]

Of the four teams that played both games on the road (Seattle, Lions, Ravens and Titans) only the Titans split. The rest are 0-2. I think were in some good pissed off company.

[Dfence4champs2052]

That pass to Smith SR......Grrrrrr should have been a TD. Joe is good for two of those a game. Still my guy though.

[smiley4660]

The only thing a lot of Ravens fans and I missed versus the Raiders was the Ravens scoring enough points to win the game...or maybe the Defense being a little less pourous....

[OzzieBisciotti]

What we missed vs raiders- the secondary and defense....

[OzzieBisciotti]

Torrey Smith was at least clutch when we needed it the most (e.g. against patriots and steelers). No offense but Steve Smith dropped two game winning touchdowns in the last two games...

Ozzie- Now do you regret not paying Torrey Smith?

[OzzieBisciotti]

Superbowl? Superbowl? We aint even going to be a Wild Card Team this year! LOL- Thanks, Ozzie, for addressing the secondary and for keeping our prolific, speedy receivers (Torrey and Jacoby) for a rent a rookie receiver who can't even get on the field...

[OzzieBisciotti]

Ozzie is great at drafting linebackers from Alabama and drafting great lineman. However, he's never been great at picking up good corners/ safeties after Ed Reed - he rarely ever uses a second rd pick or better for these positions (except for Torrey). This pretty much sums it up:

Ozzie = Matt Elam

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

We missed a defensive dtop, we missed a couple touchdowns, we missed going 1-1

[whobilly]

If the Ravens are at 3-4 after the next west coast trip we have a shot. Tall order, but would have a shot at getting in.

[balfan23]

Ozzie is great at drafting linebackers from Alabama and drafting great lineman. However, he's never been great at picking up good corners/ safeties after Ed Reed - he rarely ever uses a second rd pick or better for these positions (except for Torrey). This pretty much sums it up: Ozzie = Matt Elam

Smith doesn't count? Oh, I'm guessing he's a bust cause he blew coverage on one play last week. When you say "pickup" are you only talking draft, cause what he does outside the draft actually does matter for the quality of the team, if you haven't noticed.

 

Pollard ... bad pickup? Graham ... failed move? Really? Guess what ... we don't grab these guys, we don't win a Super Bowl. One could argue that these are the kind of guys that put us in position to win multiple championships and has us with more post season wins that any other team outside of NE since Harbaugh and Flacco came along. 

 

After reading enough of your posts, I have to wonder if you aren't really a fan of another team, dressed in Ravens clothing. Being critical is one thing, but this incessant trashing of the team ... just gets a little old. 

[Zeus]

How about you answer the question why there was zero pressure on Carr all day?

[blairlee212]

Joe missed big, db's couldn't cover underneath or tackle, and I watched the dline get held a lot with no calls.

[blairlee212]

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Flacco to Aiken. 1:17 in the first quarter, I could tell something was off.

[stampedehero]

If fate was on our side that would be a win, especially Steves catch.

[RavenManiac#7]

First of all, let me state that I don't believe our defense played well enough for us to deserve the win, so I don't like making excuses. Also, I'm one of Joe's biggest fans, but he has to take the blame on the pass to SSS. Why would he loft that pass like that? SSS is Not a good receiver to run a fade route in the end zone with. He's just too short. I'm not sure, but I think I remember them running a similar play earlier in the game on the other side of the end zone. Those fade routes to the corner of the end zone should be to tall receivers. It's true that SSS was not in the back corner of the end zone, but that lofted pass towards the side of the end zone is basically the same thing. All Joe had to do is throw a normal pass, not a high floater, and it's a TD for sure. Nevertheless, I would still like to see more attempts made to our taller receivers when we're down there close to the end zone. As good as SSS is, he's just So short. He's not going to out jump a defender for the ball very consistently. So, unless he's just open on a regular route where Joe can zip that ball into him, I just don't see SSS as the best choice down close to the end zone.

[RavenManiac#7]

Ozzie is great at drafting linebackers from Alabama and drafting great lineman. However, he's never been great at picking up good corners/ safeties after Ed Reed - he rarely ever uses a second rd pick or better for these positions (except for Torrey). This pretty much sums it up: Ozzie = Matt Elam

"These positions", and you state "corners/safeties". It IS nice that you excepted Ed Reed, but I never saw Torrey play one down at CB or safety. What were you watching? He wasn't even on defense. He was a wr for us. I'm nit-picking your post because I kind of feel like balfan23, when he questions your loyalty to the Ravens. He's right for bringing up Jimmy Smith (1st rd choice). And he could be right in questioning the extent of your negative posts. You know, I'm not shy about bringing up things that I question or think might need to be addressed, but I try like the dickens when I do to point out how much I support Ozzie and love my Ravens, NO MATTER WHAT. If you're expecting perfection from Ozzie, I suggest to you that you're on a fool's errand. Nobody is perfect, but I wouldn't trade Ozzie for any other GM in the NFL.

[rmcjacket23]

Ozzie is great at drafting linebackers from Alabama and drafting great lineman. However, he's never been great at picking up good corners/ safeties after Ed Reed - he rarely ever uses a second rd pick or better for these positions (except for Torrey). This pretty much sums it up: Ozzie = Matt Elam

And that explains why Hill, Lewis, and Arrington are on the team.

 

Needless to say, that constitutes "addressing" the secondary.

Edited September 23, 2015 by rmcjacket23

[RavenManiac#7]

Superbowl? Superbowl? We aint even going to be a Wild Card Team this year! LOL- Thanks, Ozzie, for addressing the secondary and for keeping our prolific, speedy receivers (Torrey and Jacoby) for a rent a rookie receiver who can't even get on the field...

Another example, balfan23? Perhaps, more evidence for your suspicion?

[RavenManiac#7]

Torrey Smith was at least clutch when we needed it the most (e.g. against patriots and steelers). No offense but Steve Smith dropped two game winning touchdowns in the last two games... Ozzie- Now do you regret not paying Torrey Smith?

Exhibit #3, balfan23?

[RavenManiac#7]

What we missed vs raiders- the secondary and defense....

Just to show that I'm trying to be objective and supportive, I agree with you on this one, my friend.

[RavenManiac#7]

Throw the raiders game out the Ravens that showed up in denver will be ready in Bmore this Sunday!

OK, I'll throw out the Raiders game. But that doesn't necessarily mean that I think the team that showed up in Denver can win Sunday. Yeah, the defense from the Denver game would be nice to have back, but if the OL plays like it did in Denver, I think we probably come up short.

[Cillmatic]

Colts and Seahawks are 0-2 as well. Enough said. There is a reason a NFL season is 16 games, not two games.

Come on man. The Colts could go 3-13 and still make the playoffs, their division is awful; and the Seahawks very well might not make the playoffs, their offense is the worst I've seen in a long time and the defense has lost itself. You have no point. Chances of going to the playoffs after 0-2 in 12% chance. I doubt all three of these teams make it as you seem to be saying.

[RavenManiac#7]

exactly. We are just not playing smart football. We have the talent , just need to execute, eliminate the bonehead mistakes and have better playcalling ( on both sides of the ball)

I think that your post somewhat puts some blame and pressure on our coaches, not just our players. Obviously, and I agree, the better play calling is directly on the coaches. And not playing smart and bonehead plays, while the players are responsible for that, the coaches have to take some responsibility for that also. What do you think would happen if the Cheatriots' players played like this, not smart and boneheaded? Do you think Belicheater would tolerate that? The coaches bear responsibility for having their players ready to play from the opening whistle which, by the way, has been an ongoing problem for this notoriously slow starting team. They, also, bear responsibility for getting the most out of their players' abilities. With the amount of dumb penalties we get, mistakes with non communication in the secondary, all that kind of stuff, I think we should look at the coaching staff to do Something to minimize these things. When I see a penalty like I saw from Jernigan on that late hit on the QB, I expect something to be done by the coaches. Sit him, fine him, I don't know, but do Something serious enough to send a message to him and the other players that this kind of thing will just No longer be tolerated. I don't know if I've Ever seen a later hit on a QB than on that play. Our coaches just Have to have our players thinking better on the field so that they play smarter. These are not Pop Warner kids. They should be playing smarter than they are but if they're not going to, then do something Harbs, to Really get their attention.

[January J]

I think that your post somewhat puts some blame and pressure on our coaches, not just our players. Obviously, and I agree, the better play calling is directly on the coaches. And not playing smart and bonehead plays, while the players are responsible for that, the coaches have to take some responsibility for that also. What do you think would happen if the Cheatriots' players played like this, not smart and boneheaded? Do you think Belicheater would tolerate that? The coaches bear responsibility for having their players ready to play from the opening whistle which, by the way, has been an ongoing problem for this notoriously slow starting team. They, also, bear responsibility for getting the most out of their players' abilities. With the amount of dumb penalties we get, mistakes with non communication in the secondary, all that kind of stuff, I think we should look at the coaching staff to do Something to minimize these things. When I see a penalty like I saw from Jernigan on that late hit on the QB, I expect something to be done by the coaches. Sit him, fine him, I don't know, but do Something serious enough to send a message to him and the other players that this kind of thing will just No longer be tolerated. I don't know if I've Ever seen a later hit on a QB than on that play. Our coaches just Have to have our players thinking better on the field so that they play smarter. These are not Pop Warner kids. They should be playing smarter than they are but if they're not going to, then do something Harbs, to Really get their attention.

I think that the stigma Jernigan has received from the media and fanbase should be enough to get through to him. He knows he screwed up. Now if it happens again, somethin needs to be done. Will hill also has to know that after you get that interception you HAVE to get down. Had that not have been a penalty and we gave the ball right back to them and not stopped them I don't think I could have forgiven him for that. Absolute no-no.

[Crusader]

And that explains why Hill, Lewis, and Arrington are on the team.

 

Needless to say, that constitutes "addressing" the secondary.

18 years of experience back there and that's the best they can do?