Ravens trade 7th-round pick for CB Will Davis

[BmoreBird22]

After watching tape of him, I hate this trade... A lot. He cannot freaking tackle. He's got some skill in coverage, but he's going to be utterly useless in run support. He shys away from contact in that regard, and if he gives up a completion and does not have safety help he's burned.

I mean, it's a seventh round draft pick... they aren't even guaranteed to stay on the roster...

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

I mean, it's a seventh round draft pick... they aren't even guaranteed to stay on the roster...

True I guess. I'm not usually pessimistic either. But Davis, while showing good coverage ability showed he could not tackle. He's decent depth if anything but I'm skeptical

[-Truth-]

For what it's worth, as much as I assume he's struggled thus far, he flashed a bit in his last game as a Dolphin, that being against Tampa Bay in the preseason. The eye discipline on both of the INTs was impressive. He was in both press-bail and off-man throughout the game. His footwork could use some refinement. There were one or two occasions where he slipped on out breaking routes because he was shuffling while facing away from the sideline during the break and was forced to change direction, so you'd like to see him utilize the backpedal. From what I've read thus far, he's a liability as far as tackling goes as he routinely goes arm tackles, and it shows on film. Seems to lack a physical presence aside from the issues with the form. But the coverage was generally solid. On both completions to Rannell Hall, the ball barely scraped past his outstretched hand(s). He gave up a score to Adam Humphries but that was because Humphries shifted pre-snap from RWR and technically became the inside TE on the left side. It was 23 personnel with 3 TEs and no WRs, so Davis blitzed, and Humphries went straight to the flat on the opposite side behind the line for the score. I'm anxious to dig into his last preseason and watch some of his regular season games from last year. At this point, who knows? Maybe he'll develop into a quality No.4/5. I was somewhat surprised by the move, but I'll reserve my judgement until I see him on the field.

Edited September 22, 2015 by -Truth-

[JEEPercreepermd]

Yawn. Has nothing to do with Webb. They obviously see that Arrington is having trouble in the slot..maybe he's better outside?

Traded a 7th rounder for a guy that could have some upside. Not a bad deal.

[Cillmatic]

Yawn. Has nothing to do with Webb. They obviously see that Arrington is having trouble in the slot..maybe he's better outside?

Traded a 7th rounder for a guy that could have some upside. Not a bad deal.

Complete opposite, Arrington is awful outside.

[Ravens4Real]

Yawn. Has nothing to do with Webb. They obviously see that Arrington is having trouble in the slot..maybe he's better outside?

Traded a 7th rounder for a guy that could have some upside. Not a bad deal.

Arrington looks lost wherever he is.

[Dr. Kelley]

After watching tape of him, I hate this trade... A lot. He cannot freaking tackle. He's got some skill in coverage, but he's going to be utterly useless in run support. He shys away from contact in that regard, and if he gives up a completion and does not have safety help he's burned.

Well, if he can't tackle he should fit right in at least

[rmw10]

Luke Jones ‏@BaltimoreLuke  7m7 minutes ago

The #Ravens have waived running back Terrence Magee to make room for newly-acquired cornerback Will Davis on the 53-man roster.

[-Truth-]

 

Luke Jones ‏@BaltimoreLuke  7m7 minutes ago

The #Ravens have waived running back Terrence Magee to make room for newly-acquired cornerback Will Davis on the 53-man roster.

 

 

You called it.

[rmw10]

And I imagine this is an emergency list update...

@caplannfl: CB Tony Carter worked out for the #Ravens today.

[Cillmatic]

And I imagine this is an emergency list update...

@caplannfl: CB Tony Carter worked out for the #Ravens today.

I think that's more telling than anything. Only 2 games in and we're already looking for dollar store cornerbacks. Never seen a season start this non-optimistically.

[redlobster]

I think that's more telling than anything. Only 2 games in and we're already looking for dollar store cornerbacks. Never seen a season start this non-optimistically.

This is a similar level of desperation that was shown last year after all the injuries to cb last year, that's how bad it is in my imo.

[Sami84]

And I imagine this is an emergency list update...

@caplannfl: CB Tony Carter worked out for the #Ravens today.

 

 

this is telling..

[rmw10]

I think that's more telling than anything. Only 2 games in and we're already looking for dollar store cornerbacks. Never seen a season start this non-optimistically.

This is a similar level of desperation that was shown last year after all the injuries to cb last year, that's how bad it is in my imo.

this is telling..

 

I shouldn't be surprised with the state of the forum over the last couple of days, but this is more overreaction to me.  Teams work out players the entire season and update their emergency lists.  Rumors said we had interest in him via trade last year but the Broncos didn't want to give him up.  We had a chance to work him out and see if he's an option in the event we have 8548 injuries like last year.  I don't see this as anything more than due diligence.

[GrimCoconut]

I shouldn't be surprised with the state of the forum over the last couple of days, but this is more overreaction to me. Teams work out players the entire season and update their emergency lists. Rumors said we had interest in him via trade last year but the Broncos didn't want to give him up. We had a chance to work him out and see if he's an option in the event we have 8548 injuries like last year. I don't see this as anything more than due diligence.

You couldn't be more wrong. This is clearly an indication that we know Webb is finished and may convert him to play safety while also insinuating that we may be regretting giving Jimmy Smith his new deal after he got beat one time by Cooper even though he played great against Denver and had a good game overall outside of that one play and some penalties.

It also probably means Ozzie knows he drafted a bust CB in the fourth in Tray Walker because his career is clearly already determined.

The end is nigh. Time to fire everyone, even the ball boy.

[redlobster]

You don't trade for a cb then work another out, 2 days after your secondary ( and defense) in general got steamrolled by a bottom feeder. They are scrambling and desperate.

Sometimes the purple glasses need to be lowered and realize that Ozzie and decosta have neglected the secondary (and wr) year after year. Band-Aids only work if the wound doesn't get bigger

Edited September 23, 2015 by redlobster

[GrimCoconut]

You don't trade for a cb then work another out, 2 days after your secondary ( and defense) in general got steamrolled by a bottom feeder. They are scrambling and desperate.

Sometimes the purple glasses need to be lowered and realize that Ozzie and decosta have neglected the secondary (and wr) year after year. Band-Aids only work if the wound doesn't get bigger

I don't disagree that the FO neglected these positions to an extent, but the secondary is hardly our biggest problem atm on defense. The DL was by far our worst unit for me due to how important their job is and how much their poor play affected the entire defense. It's possible the secondary holds up better with a better DL and pass rush in particular.

[redlobster]

I don't disagree that the FO neglected these positions to an extent, but the secondary is hardly our biggest problem atm on defense. The DL was by far our worst unit for me due to how important their job is and how much their poor play affected the entire defense. It's possible the secondary holds up better with a better DL and pass rush in particular.

I agree ,a quality pass rush would help the secondary.

This lineup should play much better than they showed.

Smith

Arrington

Webb

Hill

Lewis

Edited September 23, 2015 by redlobster

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

You couldn't be more wrong. This is clearly an indication that we know Webb is finished and may convert him to play safety while also insinuating that we may be regretting giving Jimmy Smith his new deal after he got beat one time by Cooper even though he played great against Denver and had a good game overall outside of that one play and some penalties.

It also probably means Ozzie knows he drafted a bust CB in the fourth in Tray Walker because his career is clearly already determined.

The end is nigh. Time to fire everyone, even the ball boy.

Which brings me to another flow chart

 

How to determine if Ravens Fan

Must Ozzie Be Fired?

Yes  

| 

Replace him with me. I'm clearly better. 

 

Dude. You're forgetting about how our front office is beyond overrated because he had a few bad drafts after being in the back of the first round. He should honestly resign. 

 

Actually. I want us to sign Tony Carter. He's not half bad

Edited September 23, 2015 by LosT_in_TranSlatioN

[DomMcRaven]

You couldn't be more wrong. This is clearly an indication that we know Webb is finished and may convert him to play safety while also insinuating that we may be regretting giving Jimmy Smith his new deal after he got beat one time by Cooper even though he played great against Denver and had a good game overall outside of that one play and some penalties.

It also probably means Ozzie knows he drafted a bust CB in the fourth in Tray Walker because his career is clearly already determined.

The end is nigh. Time to fire everyone, even the ball boy.

But, but, but what did the ball boy do?

[usmccharles]

Sometimes the purple glasses need to be lowered and realize that Ozzie and decosta have neglected the secondary (and wr) year after year. Band-Aids only work if the wound doesn't get bigger

They have addressed certain situations but you cant do much if there is no talent available.  We will not spend big money in free agency and wont trade for anyone thats going to make an imediate impact.  i may disagree with somethings Oz and company does, but he has two SB rings and you cant judge things right away, you have to wait for the season to playout.

[Tru11]

maybe melvin isent ready to comeback and tray aint ready to play which means we only have arrington webb and Jimmy as our corners?

 

we had brooks play CB after webb missed some snaps due to injury.

 

given webb and Jimmy history of injury its pretty wise to get depth and see where veteran CBs stand in FA lol.

 

i see it more as them preparing for a worst case scenario incase a CB or 2 do go down.

[HoldingCall]

maybe melvin isent ready to comeback and tray aint ready to play which means we only have arrington webb and Jimmy as our corners?

 

we had brooks play CB after webb missed some snaps due to injury.

 

given webb and Jimmy history of injury its pretty wise to get depth and see where veteran CBs stand in FA lol.

 

i see it more as them preparing for a worst case scenario incase a CB or 2 do go down.

Is Vaugh or the other CB from preseason unavailable? Just interesting the FO didn't go and get one of the last who nearly made the final cut. Will Davis is just coming off major injury and probably not immediately ready either.

 

At the end of last season I voiced that I wanted the team to work to keep McPhee as there was no worthy backup in case an aging Suggs or Dumervil went down. CBs are in the same situation.

Edited September 23, 2015 by HoldingCall

[Tru11]

Is Vaugh or the other CB from preseason unavailable? Just interesting the FO didn't go and get one of the last who nearly made the final cut. Will Davis is just coming off major injury and probably not immediately ready either.

 

At the end of last season I voiced that I wanted the team to work to keep McPhee as there was no worthy backup in case an aging Suggs or Dumervil went down. CBs are in the same situation.

 

he is still out in FA as far as i know.

 

carter is actually better then him as broncos kept carter over vaugh if i remember correctly.

 

davis has alot of potential though.

he could be a real gem.

 

vontae davis and sean smith where in similiar postition as him and both turned out significiantly better with there new team.

from what ive read some phins fans feel the same.

 

davis had a pretty good pre season so who knows.

[K-Dog]

I was wondering the same thing.

Casius (?) Vaughn looked fairly decent in pre season.

[redlobster]

They have addressed certain situations but you cant do much if there is no talent available.  We will not spend big money in free agency and wont trade for anyone thats going to make an imediate impact.  i may disagree with somethings Oz and company does, but he has two SB rings and you cant judge things right away, you have to wait for the season to playout.

 

He could have addressed it in the draft, that's the problem. spending higher than a 4th round pick on a developmental cb or higher than a 6th rounder on a wr (with the exception of perriman).

Edited September 23, 2015 by redlobster

[usmccharles]

He could have addressed it in the draft, that's the problem. spending higher than a 4th round pick on a developmental cb or higher than a 6th rounder on a wr (with the exception of perriman).

In a sense yes but you can't always have it both ways. Everyone complains to e don't draft any weapons for Joe, so we do... Now it's we don't draft defense. This is the only year I can remember our first two picks are offense.

[rmcjacket23]

He could have addressed it in the draft, that's the problem. spending higher than a 4th round pick on a developmental cb or higher than a 6th rounder on a wr (with the exception of perriman).

What if there wasn't anybody available at those spots in the draft that they felt would be good players?

 

Should they just take the player anyway, even if they don't think he will be good?

[Tru11]

What if there wasn't anybody available at those spots in the draft that they felt would be good players?

 

Should they just take the player anyway, even if they don't think he will be good?

 

Ozzie can never win this.

 

somehow fans expect him to adress every need in round 1 and 2 , like he has numerous picks there and the good players will just drop to where he picks lol

[usmccharles]

What if there wasn't anybody available at those spots in the draft that they felt would be good players?

Should they just take the player anyway, even if they don't think he will be good?

that's why the philosophy of bpa Is better than needed position