2016 WR Prospect Thread

[Baltimore RAYvens]

Man I really want to watch Coleman. I'm going to prioritize watching him this weekend.

 

Rumor has it if you play the tape on mute and have Steve Smith audio in the background you experience a phenomenon very similar to the dress picture a while back. You can't tell which player you're watching 

[GrimCoconut]

Rumor has it if you play the tape on mute and have Steve Smith audio in the background you experience a phenomenon very similar to the dress picture a while back. You can't tell which player you're watching

That sounds really promising. I'd love a WR like that.

[gabefergy]

I don't get the Boyd love. I don't think he is bad by any stretch, but I don't see the dynamic playmaking ability in him like Coleman and Treadwell. He looks like a possession receiver to me...best case scenario he turns out to be Allen Robinson which would obviously still be a great pick, just not sold he will be that good.

[Ravens2343]

Man I really want to watch Coleman. I'm going to prioritize watching him this weekend.

 

You should not be disappointed if you do.  The defense doubles him constantly and they still cant contain him, he really knows how to create separation and gains a lot of YAC.  He would be a really nice addition to our team, reminds me a lot of Antonio Brown.

[allblackraven]

You should not be disappointed if you do.  The defense doubles him constantly and they still cant contain him, he really knows how to create separation and gains a lot of YAC.  He would be a really nice addition to our team, reminds me a lot of Antonio Brown.

Man, any good WR will be great addition to our team but Coleman is clearly a pipe dream. He is arguably the best prospect in this WR class. Those go early and with our issues on D, I don't think we can afford another 1st round spent on receiver.

[Inqui]

Man, any good WR will be great addition to our team but Coleman is clearly a pipe dream. He is arguably the best prospect in this WR class. Those go early and with our issues on D, I don't think we can afford another 1st round spent on receiver.

Only to miss the whole season with a minor knee sprain.

[Ravens2343]

Man, any good WR will be great addition to our team but Coleman is clearly a pipe dream. He is arguably the best prospect in this WR class. Those go early and with our issues on D, I don't think we can afford another 1st round spent on receiver.

 

Other guys like Treadwell, Boyd, Thomas and possibly Doctson are all going to challenge him for the top spot.  We may have a chance at him if we were to trade back or back into the first round.  Too early to tell what will happen but Coleman, amongst others would be a great addition to our team.

[Dubs]

I don't get the Boyd love. I don't think he is bad by any stretch, but I don't see the dynamic playmaking ability in him like Coleman and Treadwell. He looks like a possession receiver to me...best case scenario he turns out to be Allen Robinson which would obviously still be a great pick, just not sold he will be that good.

 

I am with you on that. Really do think he is a good player and sinks in and out of his breaks well and has good change of direction for his size, but it is not dynamic game changing quickness and I don't see deep speed. Again not a hate on him just don't see him as a top 25 pick.

[PurpleCity5]

I have been watching more Coleman and I'm quite impressed. He takes on double teams, shreds zone defense and thrives in man. I think he's legit but I still lean towards Docston as of now but I think Coleman is just as good. I would love to have Coleman in the 2nd. 

[PolishRifle]

I have been watching more Coleman and I'm quite impressed. He takes on double teams, shreds zone defense and thrives in man. I think he's legit but I still lean towards Docston as of now but I think Coleman is just as good. I would love to have Coleman in the 2nd. 

 

If Coleman continues to play like this, he'll be drafted in the 1st. Skill positions tend to be overdrafted anyway. Treadwell and Coleman will probably be 1st round draft picks.

[PurpleCity5]

If Coleman continues to play like this, he'll be drafted in the 1st. Skill positions tend to be overdrafted anyway. Treadwell and Coleman will probably be 1st round draft picks.

Yeah, he should. The only concern teams would have is size but man he plays much bigger than 5'10.

[PurpleCity5]

I wouldn't mind if we went WR in the first round at all. I just want a playmaker badly. I don't care if its Ramsey, Hargreaves or Coleman. I just want someone who can make a difference.

Edited November 13, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[JoeyFlex5]

i like coleman, i dont love him. for a 5'10" wr you would like to see some supreme route running, and while i admit ive only looked into him briefly, baylor is too vanilla-spread typical high powered college offense to really get a guage on whether he is pro ready or not. he definitely plays bigger than 5'10" but until i see some evidence of him being able to run the route tree, then ill see him as a 2nd rounder. would i mind if we took him with our 2nd round pick? nope, id be ecstatic, but i cant crown him yet. i still find boyd and doctson to be FAR superior and treadwell is still pretty far ahead in my book as well.

[thieverycorporation]

If by chance the Ravens suffer another injury his year, I'd be in favor of picking up a waiver wire from the Pats. Austin Hill.

[Deflated Football]

I wouldn't mind if we went WR in the first round at all. I just want a playmaker badly. I don't care if its Ramsey, Hargreaves or Coleman. I just want someone who can make a difference.

This times 1,000,000. Could be a RB for all I care. Just get a playmaker!!!!

[PurpleCity5]

This times 1,000,000. Could be a RB for all I care. Just get a playmaker!!!!

Well...RB is an exception, unless its Fournette but outside of that I could care less about the position as long as its a difference maker.

[PurpleCity5]

After watching some tape vigorously last night, I have comprised a new list. This are my new top 5. 

 

1.) Josh Doctson: He has almost everything you look for in a WR. Size, Speed, technique, and hands. He's pretty much the most "All-Around" WR you will see in this draft. One thing he lacks is a more ideal build as he's a bit lanky. Outside of that he's the best WR in this draft IMO. 

 

2.) Laquan Treadwell: I have my doubts about Treadwell, but when I turn on the tape I honestly forget about, he's impressive and his game against Auburn really showed me why he's the consensus #1 WR. He doesn't have the speed but he's scrappy, I call him Lil' Scrappy, lol. He's such a physical presence offensively and just an attacker at WR. 

 

3) Corey Coleman: Coleman has been putting up insane numbers. He puts fear into defenses. He's dangerously good against man coverage and completely splits zone. Baylor plays a bit of a spread offense so you hope to see if he's a refined route runner. I feel that college spread offense doesn't help out future prospects because of the variety of routes they're asked to run. That said Coleman is still a great player and I can see the hype. 

 

4.) Tyler Boyd: I've cooled down on Boyd. I think he's a good prospect and I would be hyped to have him in the 2nd round, that said I just don't think he's better than the three above. I've seen people compare him to Keenan Allen, I might have to say he compared more favorably to Jordan Mathews of the Philadelphia Eagles. 

 

5.) Michael Thomas: I honestly think of all WRs in this draft Michael Thomas would be the best fit for us. He attacks the middle of the field, creates YAC, and has the all-around skills to succeed. would be a great target in the 2nd round and a guy who of this list of guys would be my best bet of who we come out of the draft with. 

[RavensFanMania]

Yeah, he should. The only concern teams would have is size but man he plays much bigger than 5'10.

I haven't seen much of Coleman, but if he a 'Steve Smith" type player with I can deal with him being 5'10 and playing big. 

[arnie_uk]

Set the recorder to record baylors game tonight to get my first live look at Coleman, not just snippets online.

Haven't came across someone on YouTube that's cut a baylor game down to just their offense only yet, so only seen highlights thus far

[GrimCoconut]

i like coleman, i dont love him. for a 5'10" wr you would like to see some supreme route running, and while i admit ive only looked into him briefly, baylor is too vanilla-spread typical high powered college offense to really get a guage on whether he is pro ready or not. he definitely plays bigger than 5'10" but until i see some evidence of him being able to run the route tree, then ill see him as a 2nd rounder. would i mind if we took him with our 2nd round pick? nope, id be ecstatic, but i cant crown him yet. i still find boyd and doctson to be FAR superior and treadwell is still pretty far ahead in my book as well.

Antonio Brown couldn't run routes that well when he came into the NFL. He was a sixth round pick but still the point remains that you can't just pass on picking a player because they're not a great route runner.

I know you'll say this proves your point about wanting to wait on him since Brown went late but I don't think you can simply say you'll pass on Coleman because the Steelers got Brown where they did. If you (the Ravens) feel he'll be another Antonio Brown but he can't run routes right now then you should take him because you can't pass on elite talent for that reason.

Take note that I'm not calling him Brown, more comparing how Brown's routes simply weren't touted coming into the league but he worked hard to be great there. That's the quality we should seek: excellent athletes who are hard workers and dedicated.

[gabefergy]

Antonio Brown couldn't run routes that well when he came into the NFL. He was a sixth round pick but still the point remains that you can't just pass on picking a player because they're not a great route runner.

I know you'll say this proves your point about wanting to wait on him since Brown went late but I don't think you can simply say you'll pass on Coleman because the Steelers got Brown where they did. If you (the Ravens) feel he'll be another Antonio Brown but he can't run routes right now then you should take him because you can't pass on elite talent for that reason.

Take note that I'm not calling him Brown, more comparing how Brown's routes simply weren't touted coming into the league but he worked hard to be great there. That's the quality we should seek: excellent athletes who are hard workers and dedicated.

Completely agree. There is some risk in drafting a player like Coleman high, but we have seen WRs in a spread offense come into the NFL and exceed. Coleman has the physical traits you look for in a WR that can become an excellent route runner. The speed, suddenness, and explosiveness are all there. If he can juke DBs out of their shoes after the catch, it shouldn't take long before he is doing it in his routes.

[JoeyFlex5]

Antonio Brown couldn't run routes that well when he came into the NFL. He was a sixth round pick but still the point remains that you can't just pass on picking a player because they're not a great route runner.

I know you'll say this proves your point about wanting to wait on him since Brown went late but I don't think you can simply say you'll pass on Coleman because the Steelers got Brown where they did. If you (the Ravens) feel he'll be another Antonio Brown but he can't run routes right now then you should take him because you can't pass on elite talent for that reason.

Take note that I'm not calling him Brown, more comparing how Brown's routes simply weren't touted coming into the league but he worked hard to be great there. That's the quality we should seek: excellent athletes who are hard workers and dedicated.

i get what youre saying 100% and im not saying i wouldnt take him until late lol. if we took him with our 2nd round pick, like i said with ngakoue, ill defer to ozzie and trust his judgement, because i do like coleman, i like his tenacity, he is stellar at attacking the ball, reminds me a bit of derrick mason when the ball is in the air the way he is able to attack it so consistently. i just see alot of folks on here crowning him one of the top 2 in the class and i just dont see that yet

[allblackraven]

i get what youre saying 100% and im not saying i wouldnt take him until late lol. if we took him with our 2nd round pick, like i said with ngakoue, ill defer to ozzie and trust his judgement, because i do like coleman, i like his tenacity, he is stellar at attacking the ball, reminds me a bit of derrick mason when the ball is in the air the way he is able to attack it so consistently. i just see alot of folks on here crowning him one of the top 2 in the class and i just dont see that yet

The league has changed though, talented WRs go early, very talented ones go in 1st. Talent like Coleman has no chance staying in Chicago(?) for day 2 of the draft. Everybody was saying that last year as well but we've had more WRs go in 1st than year before - and year before was arguably the best WR class in recent memory.

[JoeyFlex5]

The league has changed though, talented WRs go early, very talented ones go in 1st. Talent like Coleman has no chance staying in Chicago(?) for day 2 of the draft. Everybody was saying that last year as well but we've had more WRs go in 1st than year before - and year before was arguably the best WR class in recent memory.

if thats the case then it would take a trade up to pull it off, because if were looking at a top 10, maybe even top 5 pick, then there is no way hes worth it, no wr in this class is worth a top 10 pick, and i dont think the FO would see coleman as a big trade up candidate either. 

 

its a real shame that wr values are blown so far out of proportion. 

[allblackraven]

if thats the case then it would take a trade up to pull it off, because if were looking at a top 10, maybe even top 5 pick, then there is no way hes worth it, no wr in this class is worth a top 10 pick, and i dont think the FO would see coleman as a big trade up candidate either. 

 

its a real shame that wr values are blown so far out of proportion. 

I definitely agree with that but I won't be surprised if one of Treadwell / Doctson / Coleman go in top 10-15.

[JoeyFlex5]

I definitely agree with that but I won't be surprised if one of Treadwell / Doctson / Coleman go in top 10-15.

i think 2 will go in the top 15, which im fine with, i think boyd/treadwell/doctson are all 10-20 talents, one will go in the top 10 and the rest will go in the teens, if boyd doesnt have a great combine then he may slide to the early 20s. i just dont see coleman in that same tier 

[GrimCoconut]

Completely agree. There is some risk in drafting a player like Coleman high, but we have seen WRs in a spread offense come into the NFL and exceed. Coleman has the physical traits you look for in a WR that can become an excellent route runner. The speed, suddenness, and explosiveness are all there. If he can juke DBs out of their shoes after the catch, it shouldn't take long before he is doing it in his routes.

Yeah. I haven't watched enough of Coleman but from what I hear, he sounds like another Brandin Cooks. I'm good with that. He may even be better than Cooks. I need to watch him to actually form a valid opinion since I haven't watched much Baylor this year.

This WR class hasn't impressed me much. It's okay but no real stud talents.

[ravensnick]

Josh Doctson is having a quite a rise this year in my books.  I'd say it comes down to him and Treadwell for the best WR and its really close. 

 

Coleman is putting up excellant numbers, but I have to be a little hesitant because Baylor's schedule has been laughable up to this point. He gets his first true test at Oklahoma tonight. 

 

Dural really impressed me against Alabama. He had a mid to high second round grade in my opinion, but I think he has first round talent. He total talent is hard to determine with Brandon Harris.

 

Boyd has not enjoyed quite the amount of success of his previous two years, but he isn't doing bad. He ranks behind Docston, Treadwell, Will Fuller, Micheal Thomas, Coleman, and Dural in my book however and is looking more like a second rounder than a first. 

 

Will Fuller is one of my favorite guys to watch, but he said he is going to return for his degree.

 

Rankings as of Now:

 

1A. Josh Doctson (Top 10)

1B. Laqaun Treadwell (Top 15)

3. Will Fuller (Top 20)

4. Micheal Thomas (First Round)

5. Corey Coleman (Late First-Early Second)

6. Travin Dural (Early Second)

7. Tyler Boyd (Mid Second)

8. Demarcus Robinson (Mid Second)

9. Pharoh Cooper (Late Second)

10. Braxton Miller (Late Second)

Edited November 15, 2015 by ravensnick

[JoeyFlex5]

nick you seem excessively tough on boyd, i love dural but there is no way he is ahead of boyd, and will fuller isnt even declaring this year. there is simply no way boyd isnt top 10 at his position...

[Ravenseconbeast]

1.Boyd

2.Perriman

3.Waller/Givens/Camp

Perfect.

Need a vet FA that's all pro next to Boyd/Treadwell/whoever.

At least for now, I would put Perriman in the 'jacoby' to keep the expectation low for next year.