2016 WR Prospect Thread

[PurpleCity5]

I didn't think too highly of Doctson before, but man that has changed now. I really think he could find himself in the 1st round.

[BmoreBird22]

I don't watch TCU, but every time I watch Tech, I'm hearing something about Doctson. Just from everything I've heard, I'd be happy with him

[Robbyrobbass]

Let's be honest, we never get the players we need. We'll probably draft a DT or something.

thats what im scared of

[Robbyrobbass]

I don't watch TCU, but every time I watch Tech, I'm hearing something about Doctson. Just from everything I've heard, I'd be happy with him

he is the master at high pointing a pass I think he might break the combine record for vertical

[Robbyrobbass]

I want Treadwell with this being said im 90% sure we won't pick him doctson boyd Coleman or fuller if he comes out we need to start a Offensive and defensive lineman thread bc thats where this pick is going smh

[VeiledPsychosis]

I actually think he could have a Kevin White rise. I wouldn't be surprised at all. 

I don't know if he'll make it that high, Doctson isn't quite as much of an athletic freak as White, I think that might hold him out of the top 10 if he makes into the first

Edited October 18, 2015 by VeiledPsychosis

[ravensnick]

I don't know if he'll make it that high, Doctson isn't quite as much of an athletic freak as White, I think that might hold him out of the top 10 if he makes into the first

While he might not be the physical freak White is, Docston's wide receiver skills are some of the best I have seen. I don't think he is a top 10 pick, but I think he should be a surefire first rounder. 

Edited October 18, 2015 by ravensnick

[Maryland]

I think the Doctson to Kevin White comparisons make sense in the sense that both played in high-powered offenses and arrived onto the scene rather suddenly. However, the comparisons end there, because where White was never overrated as a great prospect that year, Doctson is being overrated just because of his gaudy spread offense stats.

 

Doctson may be a good player, but I doubt he is the physical freak that White is. The White/Cooper debate was basically the same as the Green/Julio debate from a few years before. Comparing Doctson to White in terms of draft stock or talent seems like a lazy box-score comparison to me. 

[JoeyFlex5]

I think the Doctson to Kevin White comparisons make sense in the sense that both played in high-powered offenses and arrived onto the scene rather suddenly. However, the comparisons end there, because where White was never overrated as a great prospect that year, Doctson is being overrated just because of his gaudy spread offense stats.

 

Doctson may be a good player, but I doubt he is the physical freak that White is. The White/Cooper debate was basically the same as the Green/Julio debate from a few years before. Comparing Doctson to White in terms of draft stock or talent seems like a lazy box-score comparison to me. 

you think kevin white wasnt overrated? he was in a spread offense with a solid qb and his combine made pretty much everyone but the raiders say he was the top wr. kevin white on film honestly looked less polished than breshad perriman, but combine numbers blew his stock up and he goes top 10 because hes big and fast when based on his skill he is a mid first talent.

[Cillmatic]

you think kevin white wasnt overrated? he was in a spread offense with a solid qb and his combine made pretty much everyone but the raiders say he was the top wr. kevin white on film honestly looked less polished than breshad perriman, but combine numbers blew his stock up and he goes top 10 because hes big and fast when based on his skill he is a mid first talent.

"Less polished than Breshad Perriman"? I don't think that's possible.

[JoeyFlex5]

"Less polished than Breshad Perriman"? I don't think that's possible.

only slightly though. kevin white was seriously raw, it didnt get enough attention in the draft process. he ran 9s and slants mostly and in the rare occasion he was running a nfl style route, he ran the routes more rounded than perriman, he had no sense of speed control he was just full speed the whole time, thats an extremely unpolished trait and makes players predictable at the nfl level. perriman ran routes in a pro style offense better than kevin white ran slants in a spread, although perriman isnt exactly refined. 

 

also kevin white has a pretty distinct fadeaway catching style, db's with good ball skills could very well be a problem for him. i actually think they are very similar players with white having a more reliable set of hands, and this isnt to say white couldnt surpass perriman there, but at the time of them being drafted, perrimans concept of route running was sharper than whites, and one could easily say perriman had the advantage of coming from a pro style offense, but thats yet to be determined.

[GrimCoconut]

I think the Doctson to Kevin White comparisons make sense in the sense that both played in high-powered offenses and arrived onto the scene rather suddenly. However, the comparisons end there, because where White was never overrated as a great prospect that year, Doctson is being overrated just because of his gaudy spread offense stats.

Doctson may be a good player, but I doubt he is the physical freak that White is. The White/Cooper debate was basically the same as the Green/Julio debate from a few years before. Comparing Doctson to White in terms of draft stock or talent seems like a lazy box-score comparison to me.

Lol some of you guys need reading comprehension lessons since I said Doctson could have a Kevin White-like rise in the draft. That's not comparing him to Kevin White but more or less comparing what may be a surprising rise in draft stock. You said the same thing in response to my comment that Hargreaves is the best CB to come out since Revis that I'm comparing them when I'm not.

[JoeyFlex5]

Lol some of you guys need reading comprehension lessons since I said Doctson could have a Kevin White-like rise in the draft. That's not comparing him to Kevin White but more or less comparing what may be a surprising rise in draft stock. You said the same thing in response to my comment that Hargreaves is the best CB to come out since Revis that I'm comparing them when I'm not.

so what ur saying is that doctson will be as good as revis? lol noob.

[52520Andrew]

Lol some of you guys need reading comprehension lessons since I said Doctson could have a Kevin White-like rise in the draft. That's not comparing him to Kevin White but more or less comparing what may be a surprising rise in draft stock. You said the same thing in response to my comment that Hargreaves is the best CB to come out since Revis that I'm comparing them when I'm not.

 

What about that Nassib is going to be as good as Watt?

[GrimCoconut]

What about that Nassib is going to be as good as Watt?

That's a bold statement and I really like Nassib. Lol

[52520Andrew]

That's a bold statement and I really like Nassib. Lol

 

No I was going off the comparison bit lol

[PurpleCity5]

I don't even want to draft a WR in the first two rounds. I'd rather sign one. I feel strongly we'll need a veteran if we're trying to make a deep run at the playoffs. I feel like there are position on this defense that must be filled via the draft.

[JoeyFlex5]

I don't even want to draft a WR in the first two rounds. I'd rather sign one. I feel strongly we'll need a veteran if we're trying to make a deep run at the playoffs. I feel like there are position on this defense that must be filled via the draft.

were at a weird crossroads where were in the middle of "win now" and rebuild mode. we can feel the window closing, but we still could have another 8 years, that either really limits our moves, or lets us do whatever the hell we feel like.. however, im not so sure we can keep retreading our offense with over the hill players, we lucked out with steve smith playing as good as he is, most veteran wr's just arent gonna produce that much. wr and OL feel like the only positions where i dont think these retreads are acceptable anymore, if we want flacco to play well for the tail end of his career and get us another title, we need cheap young talent from the draft for him to make plays with, we cant expect him to throw to scrubs and old men anymore.

[PurpleCity5]

were at a weird crossroads where were in the middle of "win now" and rebuild mode. we can feel the window closing, but we still could have another 8 years, that either really limits our moves, or lets us do whatever the hell we feel like.. however, im not so sure we can keep retreading our offense with over the hill players, we lucked out with steve smith playing as good as he is, most veteran wr's just arent gonna produce that much. wr and OL feel like the only positions where i dont think these retreads are acceptable anymore, if we want flacco to play well for the tail end of his career and get us another title, we need cheap young talent from the draft for him to make plays with, we cant expect him to throw to scrubs and old men anymore.

Nah, I don't mean get a cut guy. I'd love to get a guy like Marvin Jones, I personally feel that we have holes within the defense that need some fixing. I don't mean get a guy who's on the verge of retirement, just a guy who can put in some work from FA. If we have two inexperienced WRs starting, that can be difficult come playoff time. We're also going to lose some aggressiveness and toughness from Steve Smith retiring. That's personally how I feel. 

[JoeyFlex5]

Nah, I don't mean get a cut guy. I'd love to get a guy like Marvin Jones, I personally feel that we have holes within the defense that need some fixing. I don't mean get a guy who's on the verge of retirement, just a guy who can put in some work from FA. If we have two inexperienced WRs starting, that can be difficult come playoff time. We're also going to lose some aggressiveness and toughness from Steve Smith retiring. That's personally how I feel. 

those are possibly the priciest free agents on the markets, along with pass rushers. theres a reason a majority of our players are either on rookie deals, or playing on their 3rd or later contracts, most of the guys we have playing on their 2nd contracts are guys we drafted and extended. those 2nd contracts are very pricey and theres too many question marks when signing a 5th year guy from another team as opposed to extending a guy you drafted. going after wr's who just finished their rookie deals is the type of thing that kills your cap space almost instantly lol

[PurpleCity5]

those are possibly the priciest free agents on the markets, along with pass rushers. theres a reason a majority of our players are either on rookie deals, or playing on their 3rd or later contracts, most of the guys we have playing on their 2nd contracts are guys we drafted and extended. those 2nd contracts are very pricey and theres too many question marks when signing a 5th year guy from another team as opposed to extending a guy you drafted. going after wr's who just finished their rookie deals is the type of thing that kills your cap space almost instantly lol

I don't think Jones will be too costly. There are some dumb teams out there so maybe someone decides to overpay but I don't think the Market will be a big deal for us. I mean the Broncos got Emmanuel Sanders at $18M for 3Years, I call that a steal. I don't anticipate Marvin Jones will break the bank like some think he will. He's got competition for targets over there and that is a hindrance on him earning a big deal.

[Cillmatic]

I don't think Jones will be too costly. There are some dumb teams out there so maybe someone decides to overpay but I don't think the Market will be a big deal for us. I mean the Broncos got Emmanuel Sanders at $18M for 3Years, I call that a steal. I don't anticipate Marvin Jones will break the bank like some think he will. He's got competition for targets over there and that is a hindrance on him earning a big deal.

just the fact that he was the #2 WR behind AJ Green will make his value increase.

[PurpleCity5]

just the fact that he was the #2 WR behind AJ Green will make his value increase.

What do you mean?

[Cillmatic]

What do you mean?

People will see that he's been very good as a number two and assume that if he wasn't behind the greatness that is AJ Green he would bud into a top WR.

It's like how the Eagles wasted all that money on Maxwell.

Edited October 21, 2015 by Cillmatic

[PurpleCity5]

People will see that he's been very good as a number two and assume that if he wasn't behind the greatness that is AJ Green he would bud into a top WR.

It's like how the Eagles wasted all that money on Maxwell.

I think that's a different situation. CBs are getting big bucks, Byron Maxwell wasn't the only one to get paid, plenty of guys out there made their money. 

 

Emmanuel Sanders was playing behind Antonio Brown and that Steelers offense and didn't break the bank, he put up nice numbers.

 

I don't recall teams overpaying for #2 WRs for a while now.  

[Ravens2343]

I went back and watch some of Oregon's game this year and last year and a guy I really like that I think we could get in round 3-4 is Bralon Addison.  He is explosive and gets in and out of his breaks quickly.  He is not the most polished receiver but we could use him the same way the Steelers use Antonio Brown.  Move him around the formation, hand it off to him on jet-sweeps, bubble screens and crossing routes.  We need explosive playmakers on offense and he looks fully recovered from his acl injury in 2014, I think he would be a good mid round addition. 

 

What do you guys think?

[Maryland]

you think kevin white wasnt overrated? he was in a spread offense with a solid qb and his combine made pretty much everyone but the raiders say he was the top wr. kevin white on film honestly looked less polished than breshad perriman, but combine numbers blew his stock up and he goes top 10 because hes big and fast when based on his skill he is a mid first talent.

I still like Kevin White. He could physically do anything on the field. 

 

I compare White/Cooper it to Green/Julio because it seemed like White was the physical freak that could develop into Julio, whereas Cooper was the sure-thing, like AJ Green.

[Maryland]

Lol some of you guys need reading comprehension lessons since I said Doctson could have a Kevin White-like rise in the draft. That's not comparing him to Kevin White but more or less comparing what may be a surprising rise in draft stock. You said the same thing in response to my comment that Hargreaves is the best CB to come out since Revis that I'm comparing them when I'm not.

I think it's more along the lines of: I made some general observations sparked by things you or others may have said, and you just take it as a personal criticism. I understood what you said. 

[JoeyFlex5]

I still like Kevin White. He could physically do anything on the field. 

 

I compare White/Cooper it to Green/Julio because it seemed like White was the physical freak that could develop into Julio, whereas Cooper was the sure-thing, like AJ Green.

while i can certainly understand the comparison, i dont think kevin white is anywhere near where julio was coming out. i like kevin white as well dont get me wrong, i just didnt have him anywhere near as high as many did.

[Maryland]

while i can certainly understand the comparison, i dont think kevin white is anywhere near where julio was coming out. i like kevin white as well dont get me wrong, i just didnt have him anywhere near as high as many did.

Well we'll see who is right in a few years, assuming his bones can hold up lol. 

 

This previous WR class has not been as instantly rewarding as 2014