2016 WR Prospect Thread

[Jacquouille]

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Well imo, Boyd Has the best hands and best routes in the class. He plays like a 5 year vet, he doesn't just run routes, he fluidly goes into his breaks and explodes out of them without giving any hints of his direction, he attacks the ball, he positions himself great for the catch, and I know Higgins does these things well also, but Boyd is just on another level. He's in a class all his own when it comes to being a dependable wr

No denying that, but I don't see the Big play ability that Higgins has, and that we lacked this year.

[sflegend89]

If we sign Wallace I don't see us taking a WR in round 2. Not that I wouldn't love a guy like Doctson/Boyd but we have bigger fish to fry. OL,CB, DL, OLB, ILB... we ideally need to hit 2 of those positions in rounds 1 & 2. We'll have a packed WR group and I think we basically see Perriman as our rookie WR this year so we won't spend another pick there early.

We're potentially already looking at this group going into TC:

1. Steve Smith Sr.

2. Mike Wallace

3. Kamar Aiken

4. Breshad Perriman

5. Michael Campanaro

6. Chris Matthews

7. Jeremy Butler

8. Daniel Brown

9. Cam Worthy

 

 

Edited March 14, 2016 by sflegend89

[Jacquouille]

23 minutes ago, sflegend89 said:

If we sign Wallace I don't see us taking a WR in round 2. Not that I wouldn't love a guy like Doctson/Boyd but we have bigger fish to fry. OL,CB, DL, OLB, ILB... we ideally need to hit 2 of those positions in rounds 1 & 2. We'll have a packed WR group and I think we basically see Perriman as our rookie WR this year so we won't spend another pick there early.

We're potentially already looking at this group going into TC:

1. Steve Smith Sr.

2. Mike Wallace

3. Kamar Aiken

4. Breshad Perriman

5. Michael Campanaro

6. Chris Matthews

7. Jeremy Butler

8. Daniel Brown

9. Cam Worthy

 

 

I would swap Chris Matthews and Jeremy Butler, but Okay otherwise. I don't really know what to expect from Wallace.

With Bisciotti wanting the pass rush to make a leap, I wouldn't be surprised if we double dipped on it, with  Buckner/OLB combo with Spence, Calhoun, potentially Dodd and Floyd in the 2nd. Buckner really makes everyone around him better, and as you said, WR and S not being needs anymore, we can load up on some positions.

[Deflated Football]

37 minutes ago, sflegend89 said:

If we sign Wallace I don't see us taking a WR in round 2. Not that I wouldn't love a guy like Doctson/Boyd but we have bigger fish to fry. OL,CB, DL, OLB, ILB... we ideally need to hit 2 of those positions in rounds 1 & 2. We'll have a packed WR group and I think we basically see Perriman as our rookie WR this year so we won't spend another pick there early.

We're potentially already looking at this group going into TC:

1. Steve Smith Sr.

2. Mike Wallace

3. Kamar Aiken

4. Breshad Perriman

5. Michael Campanaro

6. Chris Matthews

7. Jeremy Butler

8. Daniel Brown

9. Cam Worthy

 

 

Good point. That's a solid WR depth chart, very similar to our Super Bowl roster. Two speedsters like Torrey and Jacoby in Wallace and BP. Two possession WR's in Smith and Aiken like we had with Boldin and Doss, although Aiken is better than him. Plus I think our TE situation will be better with Watson, Maxx and Crockett. I'd be OK with skipping on WR early. 

[ravefan52]

Unless a good WR takes a big fall (which they rarely do), I'd be surprised if we take one in the first three rounds. We will probably just take our typical late round project.

[Davesta]

4 minutes ago, ravefan52 said:

Unless a good WR takes a big fall (which they rarely do), I'd be surprised if we take one in the first three rounds. We will probably just take our typical late round project.

Sad but true. There goes my Tyler Boyd or sterling Shepard wishlist

[ellicottraven]

I think we are setting ourselves up for best player available. We would like to fill all our glaring holes in free agency if possible so we could focus on our draft strategy of BPA.

[GrimCoconut]

3 hours ago, ravefan52 said:

Unless a good WR takes a big fall (which they rarely do), I'd be surprised if we take one in the first three rounds. We will probably just take our typical late round project.

I think Tyler Boyd could fall to the 3rd. In some ways I feel that's just so unrealistic, but I think that the prices of WRs in FA this year highlights just how weak this WR class is. Granted, you could say that means professional NFL GMs will reach on WRs earlier to "get their guy," but I think they're more likely to avoid WRs until late. I have a feeling we'll get a WR in the 4th round. I actually think that's where the best value is. If we were still picking late 1st like usual, I'd be all over a WR, but I think we're in the sweet spot for a CB there, and I don't think a WR will be there with greater value than CB. 

I really like Jay Lee or Kolby Listenbee for our 4th Round WR. I think both of those guys make a ton of sense to me. We probably only end up with one, though.

[ellicottraven]

This draft is really loaded in at least the top 50 players. So, it wouldn't be such a bad thing to accumulate as many picks as possible in the top 50 by trading back. But, I'm near certain that trading back this year is going to be a lot more difficult than years past simply for that reason alone. The best case scenario would be a team that is desperate for that QB that drops down to us and that either SF or Philly covets. That is the only scenario where I can foresee a favorable draft partner for us. Otherwise, I'm just praying Kap stays put in SF and Cleveland takes a QB with their #2 pick.

[ALPHA]

3 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

I think we are setting ourselves up for best player available. We would like to fill all our glaring holes in free agency if possible so we could focus on our draft strategy of BPA.

We have 10 picks and 7 in the first 4 rounds, we can really do some damage.

[Inqui]

1 hour ago, GrimCoconut said:

I think Tyler Boyd could fall to the 3rd. In some ways I feel that's just so unrealistic, but I think that the prices of WRs in FA this year highlights just how weak this WR class is. Granted, you could say that means professional NFL GMs will reach on WRs earlier to "get their guy," but I think they're more likely to avoid WRs until late. I have a feeling we'll get a WR in the 4th round. I actually think that's where the best value is. If we were still picking late 1st like usual, I'd be all over a WR, but I think we're in the sweet spot for a CB there, and I don't think a WR will be there with greater value than CB. 

I really like Jay Lee or Kolby Listenbee for our 4th Round WR. I think both of those guys make a ton of sense to me. We probably only end up with one, though.

I don't think it's unreasonable that Boyd falls to the top of the third. Granted it's a crap class, but Keenan Allen fell to the third in one of the worst classes in recent memory so it's not unprecedented.

[Cville-Raven]

I think if we go WR, the earliest I could see us taking one would be in rounds 3 or 4. Just not a great WR class. I'm curious to see what impact FA has on the value of some of these guys.

[sflegend89]

4 hours ago, Davesta said:

Sad but true. There goes my Tyler Boyd or sterling Shepard wishlist

It's probably for the better. Good CB's and Pass Rushers are expensive in FA. We got more value for our money by just signing Mike Wallace to fill the hole at WR rather than taking on an unproven rookie WR early in the draft and passing up players at much more valuable positions. 

[RaineV1]

Well, early round WRs have done pretty well in the last four or five years. Honestly, pass rushers seem to be the biggest busts in the first round nowadays. Teams fall in love with an athletic edge guy only to suddenly find out he has horrible technique and NFL lineman can handle him easily.

[sflegend89]

22 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

Well, early round WRs have done pretty well in the last four or five years. Honestly, pass rushers seem to be the biggest busts in the first round nowadays. Teams fall in love with an athletic edge guy only to suddenly find out he has horrible technique and NFL lineman can handle him easily.

There are far more productive WR's in the NFL than pass rushers due to the nature of the position, that's part of the reason why good Edge Rushers typically come off the board very early and quality WR's can stay on the board for some time. Edge is a riskier position to draft but it's also a far more valuable one, hence the risk-reward of selecting one. I would say with Wallace we have a packed depth chart as it is and already have a guy we view as our early round rookie WR in Perriman.

I just don't think the value is there in the 2nd or 3rd to take a guy that is only going to be 5th or so on the depth chart, we can use those picks at positions of need on guys who can step in and contribute day one where we really need the help.

[thieverycorporation]

I still believe they will seek a wr draft pick. And early. I don't think they want to get burned again thinking they have all they may need. SSsr/Perriman should still be considered ? It would be nice to groom a young in.

[Jaybirds]

Ozzie did say we were probably going to get two WRs.  If Wallace is one, then drafting the second seems most likely.  With Steve Smith retiring this year (for real this time), and Wallace on a two year deal, this is a good time to find a long term solution.  I'm expecting one in the first three rounds. 

[GrimCoconut]

25 minutes ago, Jaybirds said:

Ozzie did say we were probably going to get two WRs.  If Wallace is one, then drafting the second seems most likely.  With Steve Smith retiring this year (for real this time), and Wallace on a two year deal, this is a good time to find a long term solution.  I'm expecting one in the first three rounds. 

Listenbee is a guy I like a lot for us. Another is Jay Lee from Baylor, as well as Malcolm Mitchell from Georgia. These are the guys I think the Ravens will most likely get, unless Boyd falls to us in the 3rd.

[Valid1]

^^Do you have any opinions on Leonte Carroo? People I respect have said good things but I haven't seen any of him yet. 

 

The Ravens usually wait until draft day to squash my hopes of a good WR early in the draft. Mike Wallace is the death knell for that idea, though knowing this FO that weren't going to happen anyway. Damn shame as Treadwell will be the last time we have any chance at a WR of his caliber for the next decade at least. The worst part about all of it isn't that we're overpaying or even that Wallace likely won't produce, it's that I still really hate this guy from his time with the Steelers and have been really enjoying his sputtering out of the league. Now I don't even have that. 

Edited March 16, 2016 by Valid1

[Jaybirds]

7 hours ago, Valid1 said:

^^Do you have any opinions on Leonte Carroo? People I respect have said good things but I haven't seen any of him yet. 

 

The Ravens usually wait until draft day to squash my hopes of a good WR early in the draft. Mike Wallace is the death knell for that idea, though knowing this FO that weren't going to happen anyway. Damn shame as Treadwell will be the last time we have any chance at a WR of his caliber for the next decade at least. The worst part about all of it isn't that we're overpaying or even that Wallace likely won't produce, it's that I still really hate this guy from his time with the Steelers and have been really enjoying his sputtering out of the league. Now I don't even have that. 

Carroo is good.  I just don't know if he's on our board because of that domestic violence arrest.  I think the charges were dropped, but I'm not sure we're ready for that anyway. 

Treadwell would have broken your heart, anyway. 

[Clmraven]

9 hours ago, Valid1 said:

^^Do you have any opinions on Leonte Carroo? People I respect have said good things but I haven't seen any of him yet. 

 

The Ravens usually wait until draft day to squash my hopes of a good WR early in the draft. Mike Wallace is the death knell for that idea, though knowing this FO that weren't going to happen anyway. Damn shame as Treadwell will be the last time we have any chance at a WR of his caliber for the next decade at least. The worst part about all of it isn't that we're overpaying or even that Wallace likely won't produce, it's that I still really hate this guy from his time with the Steelers and have been really enjoying his sputtering out of the league. Now I don't even have that. 

Im a huge fan of Caroo, I would love it if we got him in the 3rd, he is a complete receiver he can do a little bit of everything he reminds me a little of Aiken only way more polished and a better deep threat coming out of college.

[Edgar]

JAKEEM GRANT- needs to be a serious consideration. Scratch that...draft him. Offers stunning speed and shiftiness. Small.fantastic returner,electric in space. This is our returner as well as a slot receiver that offers something we don't have should Campanaro break down.

not the route runner that campanaro is by a long shot but crazy play making.an effort player and willing blocker despite his stature.

one of my favorite things to watch are how he stays with the play all the way down field looking to block. I would say picking him with a 4th round compensatory pick would be an easy decision if only for his return skills.

Im sure I'm late to the party on this guy but haven't seen his name.....watch this guy.

[Dewy101]

On March 3, 2016 at 11:31 AM, RaineV1 said:

I'd compare Higgins to Jarvis Landry. They're the type of receivers that you just keep steadily feeding the ball.

Just give him the ball. He just has a knack to make people miss. Really hoping he doesn't fall into the hands of the Steelers. Things won't be looking to good for the rest of the NFL if that happened. 

[Jacquouille]

Mike Thomas (Southern Miss) and Kenny Lawler seem like steals if we can get them with one of our 4th round comp picks.

[Mad Puppy]

If I'm GM I target....

Sterling Shepard

Pharoah Cooper

Kenny Lawler

Trajae Sharp

Mike Thomas (S. Miss) ***Only added since all the positive reviews from the board

[usmccharles]

On 3/19/2016 at 8:08 PM, Edgar said:

JAKEEM GRANT- needs to be a serious consideration. Scratch that...draft him. Offers stunning speed and shiftiness. Small.fantastic returner,electric in space. This is our returner as well as a slot receiver that offers something we don't have should Campanaro break down.

not the route runner that campanaro is by a long shot but crazy play making.an effort player and willing blocker despite his stature.

one of my favorite things to watch are how he stays with the play all the way down field looking to block. I would say picking him with a 4th round compensatory pick would be an easy decision if only for his return skills.

Im sure I'm late to the party on this guy but haven't seen his name.....watch this guy.

I was the first to mention him,  In the late round steal thread I think it was. He's mine,  back off:)

Yea Yeah guy I think can bring what jacoby did for us.   His ability to stop on a dime and accelerate remind me of Sanders.  He is a guy I will keep my eye on no matter where he goes

Edited April 24, 2016 by usmccharles

[Deflated Football]

I really want Sterling Shepard in the third. He'll be a great addition to our offense and he seems like the kind of guy Flacco could really rely on. 

[RaineV1]

Because he did good at the combine, I think Shepard gets in the later part of the 2nd round. But if he's there in the third, he should definitely be our pick.

[Ravenslifer]

With Wallace on board, it gives us 4 starting options - obviously if everyone's healthy it will be SSS and Perriman, but Aiken and Wallace can both be starters in a pinch.  So we can afford this year to take a flier on more of an upside player in a later round.  I'm looking at Sharpe, Listenbee, Higgins, Mitchell, Chris Brown as guys who could come in and contribute.

[ellicottraven]

I think we'll take a flyer on a WR somewhere in the 4th round. But, I won't be surprised if we pick a QB before a WR though...