2016 WR Prospect Thread

[January J]

On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 5:39 PM, ALI624 said:

2 hours ago, ngatainmyhouse said:

IHrsn't know if I miwouldn'tis, but what 're everyone's thought s on Pharaoh Cooper? 

 

There Hasnt Been much talk about him..He has sort of flown under the radar. I definitely have several prospects above him but Wouldnt Mind him in the third or fourth.

[RaineV1]

The Ravens' third pick in the draft, especially if they're willing to move up into the later second round could be a great spot for finding a WR. Sterling Shepard, Rishard Higgins, and Braxton Miller would be in play, and all of them have a lot of qualities to like.

[Drew P]

On 1/28/2016 at 5:09 PM, Winchester said:

 

  Braxton Miller has already leaped Tyler Boyd and Doctson on most NFL teams. He will be a round One pick. He could eventually leapfrog Mike Thomas but has a way to go for that.

I didnt read anywhere where Miller was the top WR with most NFL teams but Dane Brugler has him going to The Bungles at 24.

Edited February 2, 2016 by Drew P
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[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

On January 28, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Winchester said:

I just tell stuff I hear it is mostly correct but of course it is a ways off from the draft. Players can switch multiple times. You have to be a loser to worry bout that stuff. I would pay to meet you in person. You are sure to be interesting.

How are you hearing from most NFL teams? If you were actually that connected you wouldn't be posting on a Ravens message board. 

Not even the Schefters of the world actually know what "most NFL teams" big boards look like. 

Most experts say we're going to land Bosa at 6 and Ramsey in the 2nd. Just saying what I hear.... 

Well I heard it from my dog but... sources, man, sources. 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

On January 30, 2016 at 6:09 PM, January J said:

GOLD.

Agreed. Unless Tunsil, Ramsey, and Buckner are gone and we take treadwell..but yeah I think we address pass rusher and cb first.

I still wouldn't take Treadwell at 6 in that scenario, especially with the talk that he could fall to late 1st even 2nd. 

Id take Spence at 6 before Treadwell most likely even though there's talk he could slide too. 

I have a gut feeling the draft is gonna go Tunsil, QB (Goff/Wentz), Stanley, QB (Goff/Wentz), and then ???

But at that point who cares because were golden with either Bosa, Ramsey or Buckner. Then hopefully we can pull off a coup by snagging either a falling Treadwell or Spence... And if not tread in the 2nd then the earliest we go WR is the 3rd round. 

 

[Winchester]

14 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

How are you hearing from most NFL teams? If you were actually that connected you wouldn't be posting on a Ravens message board. 

Not even the Schefters of the world actually know what "most NFL teams" big boards look like. 

Most experts say we're going to land Bosa at 6 and Ramsey in the 2nd. Just saying what I hear.... 

Well I heard it from my dog but... sources, man, sources. 

I do not know what boards look like. I hear some useful info every now and then. Like today I found out something about Randy Moss and what started his bad rap. Just like I heard Campanaro was living on the island and changing up his routines with some new age stuff weeks before it was news. And Will Davis will join him at some point!! Which is AWESOME!! He has pro bowl raw skill. I could get much more info than I hear but I do not want to look like I'm hunting for gossip. Nor can I post everything I hear. A good 40 and combine could even Boyd up with Miller. It is all up to who is picking and where in that case. I personally expect Boyd to run better than peeps think.

[Winchester]

So what are some thoughts on Demarcus Robinson?? A top 3 talent in skills alone. Travin Dural is good as well but Robinson runs more sudden explosive routes.

[Dewy101]

I really like this kid Leonte Caroo from Rutgers. He's slowly building hype. He may be the Perriman type of player who wows at his pro day/combine. 

Edited February 3, 2016 by Dewy101

[Jaybirds]

2 hours ago, Dewy101 said:

I really like this kid Leonte Caroo from Rutgers. He's slowly building hype. He may be the Perriman type of player who wows at his pro day/combine. 

He has a blemish on his record:  assault against a woman on campus.  She dropped charges.  But of all the things the Ravens aren't likely to overlook.... I think we have to rule him out. 

[JoeyFlex5]

for our 2nd round pick, if michael thomas and tyler boyd are both there, who would we take?

[Jaybirds]

13 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

for our 2nd round pick, if michael thomas and tyler boyd are both there, who would we take?

The one who isn't getting advice from Keyshawn Johnson?   Seriously, right now I think Thomas is probably more talented.  But he'd have to show me a lot of maturity in the interviews. 

[JoeyFlex5]

20 minutes ago, Jaybirds said:

The one who isn't getting advice from Keyshawn Johnson?   Seriously, right now I think Thomas is probably more talented.  But he'd have to show me a lot of maturity in the interviews. 

this, and ive also heard reports that hes as hardheaded as his uncle, and doesnt even open the playbook, it has never been confirmed, and man i hope it isnt true, because i REALLY like him for us, ideal skillset for what we are missing.

[Dewy101]

4 hours ago, Jaybirds said:

He has a blemish on his record:  assault against a woman on campus.  She dropped charges.  But of all the things the Ravens aren't likely to overlook.... I think we have to rule him out. 

No that isn't true. They had him confused for another person.  He was exonerated. 

[Jaybirds]

7 minutes ago, Dewy101 said:

No that isn't true. They had him confused for another person.  He was exonerated. 

The accuser refused to testify, which is why there was no trial.  I found an interview where he described himself as "exonerated".  I'm not sure that's the same thing. 

Either way, with so much press about it, I don't think we take him. 

[Dewy101]

1 hour ago, Jaybirds said:

The accuser refused to testify, which is why there was no trial.  I found an interview where he described himself as "exonerated".  I'm not sure that's the same thing. 

Either way, with so much press about it, I don't think we take him. 

There's a video of him running in and grabbing his girlfriend out of the fight. Also there were more than 5 witnesses willing to testify to the fight. If anything Carroos friend Shane Turner was the only one that actually made contact with the alleged victim. We've already interviewed Carroo. I definitely think he's on our radar 

[PurpleCity5]

You know, I really hope we get a really good WR in this draft. I have to be honest, I looked at the 2014 NFL Draft and goodness, that class of WRs were seriously stacked. Any one of those guys could change our offense completely. 

[RaineV1]

In terms of value, I'd say the best option would be Sterling Shepard or Rishard Higgins in the early third round (or trading up from that pick to get one of them). A second round of picking up Jason Spriggs and then Shepard or Higgins as a trade up in the later half of the round would be amazing.

[DomMcRaven]

2 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

You know, I really hope we get a really good WR in this draft. I have to be honest, I looked at the 2014 NFL Draft and goodness, that class of WRs were seriously stacked. Any one of those guys could change our offense completely. 

Just our luck that we were picking low. I mean, after all, we gotta do it the difficult way. Much more fun. 

[JoeyFlex5]

2 hours ago, RaineV1 said:

In terms of value, I'd say the best option would be Sterling Shepard or Rishard Higgins in the early third round (or trading up from that pick to get one of them). A second round of picking up Jason Spriggs and then Shepard or Higgins as a trade up in the later half of the round would be amazing.

You like spriggs? I haven't looked into him much at all but I heard he looked good at the senior bowl pretty much all week and does look like a real 2nd rounder.. Of the common 2nd rounders that get tossed around like Boyd and fuller, who all would you pass on spriggs for?

[RaineV1]

9 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

You like spriggs? I haven't looked into him much at all but I heard he looked good at the senior bowl pretty much all week and does look like a real 2nd rounder.. Of the common 2nd rounders that get tossed around like Boyd and fuller, who all would you pass on spriggs for?

I think Spriggs has the potential to be a franchise LT for a team that uses a ZBS running scheme. He's a bit on the small side since he's a converted TE, but he's incredibly quick for a lineman and can handle those fast edgerushers. He apparently only allowed 2 sacks in 431 pass attempts, and only 13 pressures during the 2015 season. He also fits what Trestman wants since he'll be great at helping to block on screen passes.

I think Noah Spence, if he fell that far, is the only guy I'd definitely take over Spriggs. I really like Boyd and Doctson as early 2nd round receivers, but a long term starter at LT is worth more to me than a WR. Granted, I also have more faith in Aiken, Perriman, and Smith next year than I do in Monroe and Hurst.

[JoeyFlex5]

23 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

I think Spriggs has the potential to be a franchise LT for a team that uses a ZBS running scheme. He's a bit on the small side since he's a converted TE, but he's incredibly quick for a lineman and can handle those fast edgerushers. He apparently only allowed 2 sacks in 431 pass attempts, and only 13 pressures during the 2015 season. He also fits what Trestman wants since he'll be great at helping to block on screen passes.

I think Noah Spence, if he fell that far, is the only guy I'd definitely take over Spriggs. I really like Boyd and Doctson as early 2nd round receivers, but a long term starter at LT is worth more to me than a WR. Granted, I also have more faith in Aiken, Perriman, and Smith next year than I do in Monroe and Hurst.

I like agile and technically sound LTs much more than those "high ceiling" maulers, I think that's the modern NFL LT. I guess I should look into him now. And if we resign KO I do like his ability at lt so I'd be ok skipping that position of were able to keep him. 

[ALPHA]

24 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I like agile and technically sound LTs much more than those "high ceiling" maulers, I think that's the modern NFL LT. I guess I should look into him now. And if we resign KO I do like his ability at lt so I'd be ok skipping that position of were able to keep him. 

Well the ideal LT is both powerful and agile and I only see one in this draft. The smaller more agile tackles don't always have great footwork, and if they don't work out on the left they don't have the same versatility to play inside or on the right like a mauler.

[Clmraven]

On February 3, 2016 at 8:06 AM, JoeyFlex5 said:

for our 2nd round pick, if michael thomas and tyler boyd are both there, who would we take?

I like them both, but the more I watch of Leonte Caroo the more I think he should be added to the conversation to receivers we target in the second round. He looks like a poor mans OBJ IMO, he makes the circus catches, can work the short routes and be a deep threat and is surprisingly good in the red zone for someone his size.

[gabefergy]

I've watched more tape now and updated my top 10 WRs. I still think it's a strong class.

1. Treadwell

2. Coleman

3. Doctson

4. Thomas

5. Shepard

6. Fuller

7. Boyd

8. Miller

9. Higgins

10. Cooper

[JoeyFlex5]

26 minutes ago, Clmraven said:

I like them both, but the more I watch of Leonte Caroo the more I think he should be added to the conversation to receivers we target in the second round. He looks like a poor mans OBJ IMO, he makes the circus catches, can work the short routes and be a deep threat and is surprisingly good in the red zone for someone his size.

I just don't see anything impressive in caroo tbh. I'm just not seeing the appeal

[Clmraven]

36 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I just don't see anything impressive in caroo tbh. I'm just not seeing the appeal

I see plenty to be impressed with he may not explode out of his breaks but he makes up for that with savviness in his route running using head fakes and good footwork, good hands,catches the ball away from his body, tracks the ball in air well and can go up and make catches with defenders around him, put up very good numbers in a run first offense, good quickness and vision after the catch, made his QB look very good making one handed catches jumping up for overthrown passes and fighting for under thrown ones, he just looks solid to me.

He might be there for our third round pick but I think it's more likely we'd have to trade back up into the second round, or if we were to trade back from #6 and acquire an extra 2nd rounder then I think we should consider him.

Edited February 5, 2016 by Clmraven

[JoeyFlex5]

17 minutes ago, Clmraven said:

I see plenty to be impressed with he may not explode out of his breaks but he makes up for that with savviness in his route running using head fakes and good footwork, good hands,catches the ball away from his body, tracks the ball in air well and can go up and make catches with defenders around him, put up very good numbers in a run first offense, good quickness and vision after the catch, made his QB look very good making one handed catches jumping up for overthrown passes and fighting for under thrown ones, he just looks solid to me.

He might be there for our third round pick but I think it's more likely we'd have to trade back up into the second round, or if we were to trade back from #6 and acquire an extra 2nd rounder then I think we should consider him.

I see more a guy who is just decent at a lot of things but doesn't look like he excels anywhere and with a low ceiling due to limited athleticism as well. I'll admit though I've only watched highlights and a small amount of real film on him though. 

 

If I were to make a quick and lazy comparison I'd say he bears a slight resemblance to kamar aiken, just average to slightly above average looking across the board.

[JoeyFlex5]

Since someone else made a top 10 31st I figure I'll make one too... 

1. Treadwell 

2. Coleman 

3. Boyd

4. Thomas

5. Doctson 

6. Shepard 

7. Fuller 

8. Miller 

9. Cooper 

10. De'runnya 

[Winchester]

1 hour ago, gabefergy said:

I've watched more tape now and updated my top 10 WRs. I still think it's a strong class.

1. Treadwell

2. Coleman

3. Doctson

4. Thomas

5. Shepard

6. Fuller

7. Boyd

8. Miller

9. Higgins

10. Cooper

Where is demarcus Robinson?? Maybe most complete in the draft

[gabefergy]

11 minutes ago, Winchester said:

Where is demarcus Robinson?? Maybe most complete in the draft

definitely not in the top 10.