2016 WR Prospect Thread

[nishadrahman13]

Sterling Shepard is the name to watch. He would be a steal in the 3rd; he is a huge reason why Baker Mayfield had such an exceptional year. If we got him somehow in the 4th that would be highway robbery. My ideal drafts go DeForest Buckner/Jalen Ramsey, Noah Spence/Leonard Floyd/Tyler Boyd, and Sterling Shepard in rounds 1-3.

Edited January 28, 2016 by nishadrahman13

[Winchester]

11 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/paul-mcroberts-vs-murray-state-2015-2/

 

Meet paul mcroberts, small school big time player and kid. Measured in at the senior bowl at 6'1 202 hands 9 3/4, arms 33 1/2. Looks good on tape, very athletic but it is small school, lets see what he does at the senior bowl

my favorite receiver after the big named receivers. I mentioned him before awesome to see ravens begin to notice him. Fast off the line is what I like about him.

[Winchester]

4 hours ago, Edgar said:

Paul McRoberts out of southeast Missouri state is interesting. Huge receiver with long arms and huge hands. Has a knack for making circus catches and is slippery after the catch.

appears huge on film. Could be interesting in later rounds.

 

I like him but he is going top 100!!

[Clmraven]

I think everyone's dream of getting Shepard in the 3rd is going out the window fast, he's looking good at the senior bowl so far and is rising fast, could be a higher 2nd rounder all said and done.

[PurpleCity5]

2 hours ago, Clmraven said:

I think everyone's dream of getting Shepard in the 3rd is going out the window fast, he's looking good at the senior bowl so far and is rising fast, could be a higher 2nd rounder all said and done.

I think it would take a bit more to make him a sure fire 2nd round pick but he's surely getting there.

[Clmraven]

23 minutes ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I think it would take a bit more to make him a sure fire 2nd round pick but he's surely getting there.

I'm sure he'll put up good combine numbers and all but solidify it, knowing our luck I'm sure he'll end up a mid 2nd rounder, you know just enough to be a reach with our second pick and just out of reach with our third.

Edited January 28, 2016 by Clmraven

[PurpleCity5]

42 minutes ago, Clmraven said:

I'm sure he'll put up good combine numbers and all but solidify it, knowing our luck I'm sure he'll end up a mid 2nd rounder, you know just enough to be a reach with our second pick and just out of reach with our third.

You never know honestly. Tyler Lockett was a senior bowl stand-out and thrived against big CBs there and put up a pretty good combine but still fell to the 3rd, he's fairly similar to Shepard. I think Sherpard could be a guy that is looked at as a slot WR exclusively and that could drop him. I think he could solidify a 2nd because the well runs dry at WR in the later rounds. 

Edited January 28, 2016 by PurpleCity5

[GrimCoconut]

4 hours ago, Clmraven said:

I think everyone's dream of getting Shepard in the 3rd is going out the window fast, he's looking good at the senior bowl so far and is rising fast, could be a higher 2nd rounder all said and done.

Could be; but then again he could also go later. Just because he has a good Senior Bowl doesn't radically improve his stock, but it certainly helps. The combine is still to come, which would likely change things. 

It's certainly possible he even rises to the late first round a la Dorsett. 

[GrimCoconut]

16 minutes ago, PurpleCity5 said:

You never know honestly. Tyler Lockett was a senior bowl stand-out and thrived against big CBs there and put up a pretty good combine but still fell to the 3rd, he's fairly similar to Shepard. I think Sherpard could be a guy that is looked at as a slot WR exclusively and that could drop him. I think he could solidify a 2nd because the well runs dry at WR in the later rounds. 

Yup. My thoughts exactly. I don't pay attention to stock until after the combine. Even then I usually just go off my own stock guesses. 

[PurpleCity5]

3 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Yup. My thoughts exactly. I don't pay attention to stock until after the combine. Even then I usually just go off my own stock guesses. 

I think the shortage of WR in the later rounds can contribute to him rising big on the draft, but I can't say its a foregone conclusion as of now since guys like Shepard have not risen despite performing well in the senior bowl and combine. 

[GrimCoconut]

1 minute ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I think the shortage of WR in the later rounds can contribute to him rising big on the draft, but I can't say its a foregone conclusion as of now since guys like Shepard have not risen despite performing well in the senior bowl and combine. 

I don't think that matters much. I don't think teams generally say "Well, I need a WR and the late rounds don't look good so I'll pass on this better player for this WR." Not that you're necessarily saying that, but I have to say my thoughts on that one. 

I think teams generally take their BPA now as common practice, which is why we're struggling more lately. The league got better as a whole. 

[PurpleCity5]

2 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

I don't think that matters much. I don't think teams generally say "Well, I need a WR and the late rounds don't look good so I'll pass on this better player for this WR." Not that you're necessarily saying that, but I have to say my thoughts on that one. 

I think teams generally take their BPA now as common practice, which is why we're struggling more lately. The league got better as a whole. 

That is a good point, but I do believe that certain depth at a position can affect on how a draft turns out. 

[Clmraven]

2 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

You never know honestly. Tyler Lockett was a senior bowl stand-out and thrived against big CBs there and put up a pretty good combine but still fell to the 3rd, he's fairly similar to Shepard. I think Sherpard could be a guy that is looked at as a slot WR exclusively and that could drop him. I think he could solidify a 2nd because the well runs dry at WR in the later rounds. 

Very true. We never know what these Gms are actually thinking, but just from what I'm seeing there are quite a few teams in the higher teens and twenties that could use a slot receiver.

[PurpleCity5]

Just now, Clmraven said:

Very true. We never know what these Gms are actually thinking, but just from what I'm seeing there are quite a few teams in the higher teens and twenties that could use a slot receiver.

Slot WRs typically don't go high in the draft, not that I feel that Shepard is exclusively a slot receiver but that's what teams may look at him as.

[thieverycorporation]

4 minutes ago, Clmraven said:

Very true. We never know what these Gms are actually thinking, but just from what I'm seeing there are quite a few teams in the higher teens and twenties that could use a slot receiver.

I'm telling you all that Shepard will get plucked real early. He may over take some of the favorites as he has plus plus in abilities.  Teams with a keen eye for receivers will known how to use his skill set. And not wait or hesitate. Film and recent trends will dictate the move. The Randle Cobbs, Edelmans, Amendola, Diggs don't come around every year. And the league appears to like the trend after viewing their successes with little drop off in YAC, Time of possession, first downs chain moving, and scoring plays. Seems like a no brainer for Trestman to Lobby for such a weapon. Sure we have SSSr for the slot but it's not a given he will given the same amount of snaps and they said they'd consider reducing them before the injury. Theres still a void and really needs to have been addressed years ago. Smith maybe serviceable at best early on and become his old self down the stretch or vice versa. Either way a wasted opportunity to mentor a draft pick should never be wasted.

[Winchester]

15 minutes ago, PurpleCity5 said:

That is a good point, but I do believe that certain depth at a position can affect on how a draft turns out. 

 

2 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

I don't think that matters much. I don't think teams generally say "Well, I need a WR and the late rounds don't look good so I'll pass on this better player for this WR." Not that you're necessarily saying that, but I have to say my thoughts on that one. 

I think teams generally take their BPA now as common practice, which is why we're struggling more lately. The league got better as a whole. 

I do not  think teams are going total bpa. But a combo of bpa at a need position as opposed to drafting top need. And teams continue draft for potential. I liked the Greg Robinson pick. I watched very little of him and there was nothing but hype he could be the best left tackle ever. Sure the reports were he was a little raw but damn. I watched some of his play in college and NFL and he is more than just raw. He has no feel for the position, no competitiveness, looks uncoached raw,balance, and very uncoordinated in actuality!! He will never be a dominant player!! I was interested in the rathereacquiring him for a mid round pick and coaching him up. But after watching him a little he is terrible!! He should not of been picked before round3!! It is an emnarrassment NFL professionals were lining up to pick him top 10!! The Offensive lineman version of Stephen Hill. But I do agree the leagues drafting has got better cuz of learning from players like Greg Robinson. He is supposed to be what Kelechi Osemele is. By way guys KO is so much lighter in his movement skills since leaning out and training since his rookie year when he struggled a little at tackle. His technique and pad level is much more consistent as well. If Ravens pay him $40-$45 mil over 5 years it will show up to be a huge bargain.  He could be a top5 left tackle if that is where he plays. It would not surprise me if he became a top3 or all pro left tackle. But I   guaranteehe will be a top6 left tackle worst case!! And all pro left guard but it looks as if the ravens handed Him the keys at left tackle.

[Winchester]

 

  Braxton Miller has already leaped Tyler Boyd and Doctson on most NFL teams. He will be a round One pick. He could eventually leapfrog Mike Thomas but has a way to go for that.

[allblackraven]

42 minutes ago, Winchester said:

 

  Braxton Miller has already leaped Tyler Boyd and Doctson on most NFL teams.

How the heck do you know that? Did those teams call you?

[jazz1988]

45 minutes ago, Winchester said:

 

  Braxton Miller has already leaped Tyler Boyd and Doctson on most NFL teams. He will be a round One pick. He could eventually leapfrog Mike Thomas but has a way to go for that.

I kind of doubt that The NFl combine hasn't even started yet and yet some teams may know who they may want to draft in the first round but there's still alot scouting information that may need to be gathered.

[rmw10]

25 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

How the heck do you know that? Did those teams call you?

Don't question the man's sources!  He knows people!

 

 

 

[Winchester]

10 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Don't question the man's sources!  He knows people!

 

10 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

 

Well know peeps that know peeps mostly. But unless Doctson and Boyd show better than average speed at the combine and so!ethimg prolific shows up on tape then Braxton has leaped Doctson and Boyd. Pretty much teams are just waiting til it is time to rearrange the boards to make it official.

  Braxton Miller has already leaped Tyler Boyd and Doctson on most NFL teams. He will be a round One pick. He could eventually leapfrog Mike Thomas but has a way to go for that.

[BmoreBird22]

8 minutes ago, Winchester said:

 

  Braxton Miller has already leaped Tyler Boyd and Doctson on most NFL teams. He will be a round One pick. He could eventually leapfrog Mike Thomas but has a way to go for that.

You have the most asinine posts. I don't even know where you come up with this stuff. You cannot make this up.

[Winchester]

2 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

You have the most asinine posts. I don't even know where you come up with this stuff. You cannot make this up.

I just tell stuff I hear it is mostly correct but of course it is a ways off from the draft. Players can switch multiple times. You have to be a loser to worry bout that stuff. I would pay to meet you in person. You are sure to be interesting.

[BmoreBird22]

Just now, Winchester said:

I just tell stuff I hear it is mostly correct but of course it is a ways off from the draft. Players can switch multiple times. You have to be a loser to worry bout that stuff. I would pay to meet you in person. You are sure to be interesting.

Can you quote where you heard this? And I don't mean some guy in Rhode Island.

[BmoreBird22]

While the above post may be insane, Miller has shown incredibly refined footwork and he's apparently shooting for a 4.28 40 yard dash. He should kill the 40 and the cone drills/shuttle drills. 

 

However, one thing to remember about these SENIOR Bowl practices is that many of the top receivers in the country (Treadwell, Coleman, Boyd, Fuller) and corners (Hargreaves, Ramsey, Alexander, Fuller, Apple) are not there to compare him against or to cover him.

 

I'm extremely excited for how well he's doing, but he's still going to have to show a way to show up against the top corners in the nation and prove he can play against the best.

[rmw10]

6 minutes ago, Winchester said:

I just tell stuff I hear it is mostly correct but of course it is a ways off from the draft. Players can switch multiple times. You have to be a loser to worry bout that stuff. I would pay to meet you in person. You are sure to be interesting.

 

This is gold.

[PolishRifle]

3 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

While the above post may be insane, Miller has shown incredibly refined footwork and he's apparently shooting for a 4.28 40 yard dash. He should kill the 40 and the cone drills/shuttle drills. 

 

However, one thing to remember about these SENIOR Bowl practices is that many of the top receivers in the country (Treadwell, Coleman, Boyd, Fuller) and corners (Hargreaves, Ramsey, Alexander, Fuller, Apple) are not there to compare him against or to cover him.

 

I'm extremely excited for how well he's doing, but he's still going to have to show a way to show up against the top corners in the nation and prove he can play against the best.

He's still has little experience as a WR, which makes him a project. No way anyone will draft him in the 1st round, especially over proven players like Boyd or Doctson. That's just silly.

Edited January 28, 2016 by PolishRifle

[GrimCoconut]

I'm not sure if anyone mentioned him, but I watched a bit of Hunter Sharp and I love the way this guy plays as a WR. I think he may be one of the more underrated guys out there. I hope we get him in about the 4th round or so. That would be a pretty nice get, imo.

[ellicottraven]

5 hours ago, Winchester said:

 

  Braxton Miller has already leaped Tyler Boyd and Doctson on most NFL teams. He will be a round One pick. He could eventually leapfrog Mike Thomas but has a way to go for that.

I understand he's been doing real well especially for a converted WR. He's shown incredible athleticism is what I hear, but also hear he has a long way to go. But to leapfrog established pure WRs like Boyd and Doctson, I'm not sure how that is possible in a couple of days of Senior Bowl practices. If I feel that way, I'm sure the teams which are much smarter than me in football measures won't be so quick to jump the gun I think. But, stranger things have happened. Can you post a link to the article where you found this info?

[RavensFanMania]

17 hours ago, rmw10 said:

 

This is gold.

He should play in the Forum Draft.  It would be like playing with 31 GM's and Vinny Cerrato.