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2016 WR Prospect Thread

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i would say hes still raw in route running. He always dips his shoulders to the side hes gonna break too and he doesnt seem to always get good seperation. He has shown very good ability to get off press with his physicality which is something i think we need. I like him as a pick still just wouldnt consider him a good route runner

not perfectly refined but he is ahead of his years and is very savvy, he fools dbs, ever notice how many times he makes a db turn their hips only for him to turn back to the qb and make a clean catch? That's not a coincidence lol.

Not to mention how comfortable and natural he looks doing anything obviously a football field, the kid is a natural born stud and he has a feel and a head for the game, his shortcomings will be worked out

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I suppose drafting treadwell will allow Joe more time to throw downfield? What injury did Joe suffer this year? Oh yeah....

So if Stanley and Tunsil are both gone take Conklin?
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 I suppose drafting treadwell will allow Joe more time to throw downfield? What injury did Joe suffer this year? Oh yeah....

James Hurst was our LT when Joe went down. Monroe and K.O.(if we resign him) are a lot better than him. Im pretty sure both, Tunsil and Stanley will be gone by the time we pick.

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not perfectly refined but he is ahead of his years and is very savvy, he fools dbs, ever notice how many times he makes a db turn their hips only for him to turn back to the qb and make a clean catch? That's not a coincidence lol.

Not to mention how comfortable and natural he looks doing anything obviously a football field, the kid is a natural born stud and he has a feel and a head for the game, his shortcomings will be worked out

ya i love how he always works back to the qb. He is a natural and id love the pick. Hed be a gamechanger we desperately need. The thing that sticks out most is his tremendous balance and body control. Hes very agile and i wouldbt be surprised if his 40 i faster than we expect
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Not going to mean anything if Webb is starting at CB for us next year. Doesn't matter how great our offense is we have to fix our defense or protection for Joe

you must not pay attention to much.

I suppose drafting treadwell will allow Joe more time to throw downfield? What injury did Joe suffer this year? Oh yeah....

so if tunsil, Stanley, bosa, Ramsey , and vh3 are all gone when we pick who would you take then big shot? Edited by January J
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you must not pay attention to much.

so if tunsil, Stanley, bosa, Ramsey , and vh3 are all gone when we pick who would you take then big shot?

I would still take Treadwell over VH3 and Ramsey lol

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I would still take Treadwell over VH3 and Ramsey lol

i might too. Esp if we could trade back a few spots and still get him. That would almost be a no brainer.
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you must not pay attention to much.

so if tunsil, Stanley, bosa, Ramsey , and vh3 are all gone when we pick who would you take then big shot?

Buckner or Robinson

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I think we pass on Treadwell and take get to good value Wrs in 2nd/3rd. My picks would be Michael Thomas from Southern Miss and Sterling Shepard, I'm pretty sold on Sterling Shepard.

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Not going to mean anything if Webb is starting at CB for us next year. Doesn't matter how great our offense is we have to fix our defense or protection for Joe

I agree BUTTTT, 

Treadwell, we have never been in a position to draft a true 1 WR, we have tried to draft WR in later rounds and it has never worked. so get that TRUE 1 WR, and spend the rest of all those picks, trade if needed and get that CB or OT,

and get another DC, oh maybe an assit to the defense(pettine.schwartz,or leslie frazier as a DB coach). We have drafted almost every position in later rounds, and struck gold, except WR, Lets get him and yes get the rest later. 

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Buckner or Robinson

 

Serious question - where would Robinson fit when we have 3 young players at his position already, and they look to be the future strength of this defense?

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Serious question - where would Robinson fit when we have 3 young players at his position already, and they look to be the future strength of this defense?

Last time I checked Canty is going downhill. I suppose Robinson is a better prospect than Guy you think?

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they will want a playmaker at 6. if bosa slips to 3, they will try and trade up. they tried to trade up for khalil mack two years ago. otherwise, see it very hard for them to pass up treadwell at 6. the need at wr is the same if not more than any secondary addition. he is a ravens type player and they are one year away from having perriman and aiken as WR1 and WR2. can't forgot about how much they like will davis at the other corner spot as well. think they will feel better about grabbing treadwell and then a corner/pass rusher they like at the top of round 2 if bosa doesn't happen. 

 

drafting a tackle at 6 doesn't make sense given monroe is still on the roster. if they cut him for any reason, it would be because they want osemele as their long term left tackle. 

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Last time I checked Canty is going downhill. I suppose Robinson is a better prospect than Guy you think?

Jernigan and Williams are cemented starters. I feel fine with a rotation of Canty, Guy, and Urban at DE plus maybe a mid rounder this year. I absolutely love Buckner and I'd take him if he were there, but I'm not sold on A'Shawn Robinson that high. Robinson is more of a mid-first rounder in my eyes, not much separating him from Kenny Clark or Andrew Billings. 

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Last time I checked Canty is going downhill. I suppose Robinson is a better prospect than Guy you think?

 

I'm more thinking of Davis, Jernigan, and Williams.  Buckner i get, but I just think taking Robinson is overkill when we have 3 young DTs.

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Jernigan and Williams are cemented starters. I feel fine with a rotation of Canty, Guy, and Urban at DE plus maybe a mid rounder this year. I absolutely love Buckner and I'd take him if he were there, but I'm not sold on A'Shawn Robinson that high. Robinson is more of a mid-first rounder in my eyes, not much separating him from Kenny Clark or Andrew Billings. 

 

Don't forget Carl Davis

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Lol, I'm a flip flopper here, that post was about two months old and after reviewing some prospects and what not I honestly have changed my mind. I really like Treadwell but I think at this point you get a CB like Hargreaves or an OT like Tunsil.

why do yall keep thinking we need cb we have enough cbs no need to waste a pick when wr is a bigger need and there is a deeper pool of cbs than wrs Treadwell drops we take him
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I agree BUTTTT,

Treadwell, we have never been in a position to draft a true 1 WR, we have tried to draft WR in later rounds and it has never worked. so get that TRUE 1 WR, and spend the rest of all those picks, trade if needed and get that CB or OT,

and get another DC, oh maybe an assit to the defense(pettine.schwartz,or leslie frazier as a DB coach). We have drafted almost every position in later rounds, and struck gold, except WR, Lets get him and yes get the rest later.

great minds think alike
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why do yall keep thinking we need cb we have enough cbs no need to waste a pick when wr is a bigger need and there is a deeper pool of cbs than wrs Treadwell drops we take him

Well we at least have some future at wide out with Perriman and Aiken, but CB we have pretty much Jimmy and that's about it, we'll see if Shareece Wright can continue playing decent but behind them we have pretty much nothing even if we're good at CB for 2016 we have literally no future at corner right now.

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Well we at least have some future at wide out with Perriman and Aiken, but CB we have pretty much Jimmy and that's about it, we'll see if Shareece Wright can continue playing decent but behind them we have pretty much nothing even if we're good at CB for 2016 we have literally no future at corner right now.

lol aiken yeah hes a fourth on any other team and perriman is coming off a injury some future lol
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lol aiken yeah hes a fourth on any other team and perriman is coming off a injury some future lol

Aiken isn't a fourth he's a solid #3 and a decent #2 in a pinch. I mean come on aiken had a better statistical season than Boldin ever had here and everyone still thinks letting Boldin go was a bad idea, some people were still clamoring for marlon brown to see the field after his decent rookie season but he's proven to be a product of volume and has shown absolutely nothing since, Aiken is no scrub.

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Aiken isn't a fourth he's a solid #3 and a decent #2 in a pinch. I mean come on aiken had a better statistical season than Boldin ever had here and everyone still thinks letting Boldin go was a bad idea, some people were still clamoring for marlon brown to see the field after his decent rookie season but he's proven to be a product of volume and has shown absolutely nothing since, Aiken is no scrub.

so is he better than Martivus Bryant ? Could he have made that catch lol is he better stop kidding yourself
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Well we at least have some future at wide out with Perriman and Aiken, but CB we have pretty much Jimmy and that's about it, we'll see if Shareece Wright can continue playing decent but behind them we have pretty much nothing even if we're good at CB for 2016 we have literally no future at corner right now.

well u did say it nothing behind them a Kendall fuller can be had in the third or fourth rd while u can't find a wr like Treadwell there even Ozzie said it Wr
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I'm not sure Kendall Fuller falls to the 3rd or 4th. That seems a bit optimistic but it can happen. That said, we need both a WR & a CB very badly. Both are desperate positions for this team. If we re-sign KO, I expect our first three picks to be CB, WR & OLB in no particular order. 

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so is he better than Martivus Bryant ? Could he have made that catch lol is he better stop kidding yourself

What does martavis Bryant have to do with anything? Thought we were talking about Ravens wide receivers? You're gonna compare the two based on one lucky catch?

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What does martavis Bryant have to do with anything? Thought we were talking about Ravens wide receivers? You're gonna compare the two based on one lucky catch?

luck lol thats all I needed to hear
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luck lol thats all I needed to hear

Yeah luck as in he probably couldn't do it again as martavis has really questionable hands and drops a lot of balls.

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why do yall keep thinking we need cb we have enough cbs no need to waste a pick when wr is a bigger need and there is a deeper pool of cbs than wrs Treadwell drops we take him

Oh please we absolutely need a CB on this team very badly. How many times have we relied upon OTA/Training Camp Warriors and late picks to fill in the need at CB? We've completely been snoozed on CB so many times in FA and the draft. The only guy who is guaranteed to be here in 2016 and onward is Jimmy, after that everyone is questionable. As far as the options go, you have Shareece Wright, who has played very well but shouldn't be relied upon to be the starter next season, who says we don't see the same Wright we saw during his years in San Diego and San Francisco? Will Davis has had two torn ACLs and the sample size is small, you can't rely on him. After that you have.....nothing. 

 

Even if both Wright and Davis display starting CB talent in 2016, that doesn't mean we messed up our pick, it just gives us more depth which is what we need. There are two things we will need at the CB, talent, and depth at the position. If Oz fails to address the CB position this off-season, then I will really have my questions about him. 

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I'm not sure Kendall Fuller falls to the 3rd or 4th. That seems a bit optimistic but it can happen. That said, we need both a WR & a CB very badly. Both are desperate positions for this team. If we re-sign KO, I expect our first three picks to be CB, WR & OLB in no particular order. 

I would trade up for Fuller if he dropped into the late 2nd, that would be an amazing get. I'm a fan even though he does have his negatives, but he is still talented nonetheless. I agree with your settlements about our needs, if K.O is re-signed I don't expect us to go LT in the 1st. I think CB, WR, and OLB will all be our picks with OLB being the most desired spot to fill in the 1st round. As far as WR goes, I don't just want a WR, I want a freakin' playmaker. That's the biggest need, a playmaker, not a WR. We have WR's, we don't have any play makers. 

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