2016 WR Prospect Thread

[ravensnick]

I do agree with that, I think Aiken has improved as the season gone by. I think he's a good No.3, not a starter yet but I like what I have seen from him recently. I honestly think we need Tyler Boyd. 

I think Aiken is solidly developing and could possibly be ready for a #2 role next year. With Perriman at the #3 and our talented TEs/Juice, we still are #1 WR away from a good passing offense. 

[JoeyFlex5]

I do agree with that, I think Aiken has improved as the season gone by. I think he's a good No.3, not a starter yet but I like what I have seen from him recently. I honestly think we need Tyler Boyd.

with where we are now I wouldn't mind getting treadwell. He's still my top receiver even if the value is inferior to Boyd I the 2nd.

[ravensnick]

with where we are now I wouldn't mind getting treadwell. He's still my top receiver even if the value is inferior to Boyd I the 2nd.

Treadwell is also exactly what we need. He has great hands and excels in route running. Perriman's game breaking speed combined with Treadwell's consistency could be a great combination. 

[PurpleCity5]

I think Aiken is solidly developing and could possibly be ready for a #2 role next year. With Perriman at the #3 and our talented TEs/Juice, we still are #1 WR away from a good passing offense. 

I don't know if I can rely on him to be a #2. We've been burned constantly relying on guys to be that game-breaker on WR that I feel like going the safe route. Even if Aiken balls out next season similarly to Gilmore, at least you have a bunch of good rec. options. Personally, I'm really tired of these WRs under-preforming honestly. 

Edited December 2, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[PurpleCity5]

with where we are now I wouldn't mind getting treadwell. He's still my top receiver even if the value is inferior to Boyd I the 2nd.

Let's say we finish 6-10, in that circumstance I would evaluate the talent that is at the table. If Lawson, Ogbah, Ramsey, and Treadwell are my options, then my first choice would be a trade back for Treadwell, if I don't find a deal then I'm either going with Ogbah or Ramsey. 

[arnie_uk]

Damarcus ayers from Houston anyone?

Possibly my tyler lockett this year!

[KDUBB44]

Giving our draft history, I don't see us taking Treadwell even if he is available given the fact we have so much needs everywhere. I can see us taking a WR later on down. I think Sterling Shephard is a guy that get's overlooked. He's not the biggest, fastest, or most dynamic WR, but he get's the job done. Wouldn't mind a late round flier on Duke Williams too.

[RavensFanMania]

Giving our draft history, I don't see us taking Treadwell even if he is available given the fact we have so much needs everywhere. I can see us taking a WR later on down. I think Sterling Shephard is a guy that get's overlooked. He's not the biggest, fastest, or most dynamic WR, but he get's the job done. Wouldn't mind a late round flier on Duke Williams too.

Shephard reminds me of Stefon Diggs.  Definitely wouldn't mind him in Baltimore.

[KDUBB44]

Shephard reminds me of Stefon Diggs.  Definitely wouldn't mind him in Baltimore.

People are looking at the wrong things we need in a WR. We don't necessarily need a Strong or Fast WR, because we've always been a run first team. Shephard was huge for OU this year and made plays when needed, something we need.

[thieverycorporation]

Giving our draft history, I don't see us taking Treadwell even if he is available given the fact we have so much needs everywhere. I can see us taking a WR later on down. I think Sterling Shephard is a guy that get's overlooked. He's not the biggest, fastest, or most dynamic WR, but he get's the job done. Wouldn't mind a late round flier on Duke Williams too.

Absolutely. Just catch the ball for yards is all we can ask for. 5 here, 10 there, run for five -7, It's not all about home runs but the occasional one's are even more special. We just really need consistency. Shepard projects well in moving them chains. Two/Three shifty guys in the line up would create hell for most defenses. A Perriman, SSSr, Shepard, Aiken, Butler, would be a nightmare. Add a Smashmouth running back (West) and shifty Back (Forsett), and them tightens Boyle, Maxx, Gilmore into the rotation. Thats a scary good proposition. That's a lot of accounting for and they could wear the hell of some d's. And if they added Boyd you'd have to think t would be unstoppable as the game wore on. You have to rifle arms in Mallet and Flacco. I'll check the film on Duke Williams. What's the skinny On Mr. Williams, please. I'm totally lost on him. Treadwell would be nice but I see greater value in the linebackers and safeties with that initial pick. I truly hope we can move back. And i also hope that at least one latter pick is used to get a coveted player and address a issue with a higher rated quality player on our board. Picking for depth has its pluses and minuses. If they aren't pretty sure dude in the sixth round isn't going make it because of the numbers game then I pray they use on someone who will. Besides depth can come fem the cap casualties of the post june camp cut downs. Dudes want a job and want to get paid still and those that love the game and maybe getting long in the tooth still have value. Prime Candidate for such a move maybe Be a Anquan, James Jones. Shuck I'd take flyer on Josh Gordon as he would surely have to realize the numbers wouldn't guarantee him a spot (if he's cut of course) and with so much dysfunction(Browns) that looks more and more likely because the new front office personnel and coaches can ill afford to have on going potential distractions. We are said to be a team of second chances so put your money were your mouth is. He'd be amongst men and certainly a much better culture/environment Talking straight up lethal. I don't care if its the legion of Boom. Them dudes be tired out. 

 

#12 Cravens- hybrid linebacker/safety/ballhawk and pick magnet solves the outside linebacker and safety if he had to pressed into service due to a Webby/Brooks injury.

So taking Boyd late 1 move up with 4/6 and picks in nexts years draft.

I'm taking Shepard earlier 3rd shifty/great hands/savvy routes/soft spots/contested catches/body control pretty good routes already and tutelage from SSSr and Ingram would produce a clone of SSSr when he entered the league. We never had a Edelman Welker figure that I can remember. I could be wrong.

And the defense gets all the rest of the picks Pass rusher in the latter rounds because Ozzie likes picking rabbits out hats. Main man might be looking a high school beast lol JJ. But someone we haven't heard of is bound to be in the works. It's in his DNA.

 

Draft capital is there. 

Edited January 9, 2016 by thieverycorporation

[ellicottraven]

Somebody we covet will fall to us. They have to because the draft always has surprise picks. This time there could be 2 QBs taken before us by Cleveland and Dallas. If both Paxton and Goff are available by the time we pick, there are going to be plenty of QB needy teams that may covet one or the other QB that would try to leapfrog SF to take that QB. In that case, we accumulate more picks for the future and move back a few spots but still be top 15. We'll get somebody that is going to be amazing any way. So, I can see one of these fall to us. Bosa, Ramsey, Hargreaves, Alexander, Treadwell or Ogbah.

[PurpleCity5]

Somebody we covet will fall to us. They have to because the draft always has surprise picks. This time there could be 2 QBs taken before us by Cleveland and Dallas. If both Paxton and Goff are available by the time we pick, there are going to be plenty of QB needy teams that may covet one or the other QB that would try to leapfrog SF to take that QB. In that case, we accumulate more picks for the future and move back a few spots but still be top 15. We'll get somebody that is going to be amazing any way. So, I can see one of these fall to us. Bosa, Ramsey, Hargreaves, Alexander, Treadwell or Ogbah.

Good point, there is always a suprise pick in the draft.

[Winchester]

Somebody we covet will fall to us. They have to because the draft always has surprise picks. This time there could be 2 QBs taken before us by Cleveland and Dallas. If both Paxton and Goff are available by the time we pick, there are going to be plenty of QB needy teams that may covet one or the other QB that would try to leapfrog SF to take that QB. In that case, we accumulate more picks for the future and move back a few spots but still be top 15. We'll get somebody that is going to be amazing any way. So, I can see one of these fall to us. Bosa, Ramsey, Hargreaves, Alexander, Treadwell or Ogbah.

Ogbah is a slug. Bosa Stanley Tunsil Treadwell with Tunsil #1

[Mad Puppy]

 

 

Travin Dural--Love how LSU and Cam Cameron develop players for the NFL, he seems to have everything you look for and looks to be a continual riser all year.

 

Wait Cam Cameron develops WR's?

How comes he couldn't do it here?

Perhaps someone else in that organization is developing the WR's?

[Mad Puppy]

We need to add a proven receiver. Yeah we can draft one at some point but would be too risky to use another first for one and have two top receivers next season who haven't played a snap in the Nfl. Would be much wiser to improve the pass rush or bolster the secondary.

But the Pass rushers and DB's haven't played a down in the NFL either?

I think the Ravens front office has done well with Linemen (offense and defense) anywhere in the draft. What this team needs is playmakers.... Constantly picking WR's round 4 and later isn't working.

I'm totally against a O-Tackle in the 1st round, we never seem to keep top o-line prospects past their first contract anyway. Grubbs anyone?? Already talking like we will lose K. Osemele, someone we should keep. Constantly having to revolve the O-line isn't helping matters. Only one we have kept is Marshal Yanda (wasn't he a 3rd rounder?). 

A awesome Edge rusher is fine but likely gone when we pick.

A CB is also a possible 1st rounder as a playmaker, but is there a Revis/Sanders  out there this year?

[January J]

But the Pass rushers and DB's haven't played a down in the NFL either?

I think the Ravens front office has done well with Linemen (offense and defense) anywhere in the draft. What this team needs is playmakers.... Constantly picking WR's round 4 and later isn't working.

I'm totally against a O-Tackle in the 1st round, we never seem to keep top o-line prospects past their first contract anyway. Grubbs anyone?? Already talking like we will lose K. Osemele, someone we should keep. Constantly having to revolve the O-line isn't helping matters. Only one we have kept is Marshal Yanda (wasn't he a 3rd rounder?). 

A awesome Edge rusher is fine but likely gone when we pick.

A CB is also a possible 1st rounder as a playmaker, but is there a Revis/Sanders  out there this year?

this post was from 3 months ago- I've definitely had a shift in thinking/ change of heart and have came around to the idea of taking treadwell. If we could tradeback a few spots and still get him that would be even better. But if I know Ozzie like I think I do- if they are available he will take Stanley or Ramsey. I kind of hope Ramsey is gone just so he doesn't take a Chance on him. Stanley would be cool, but obviously Treadwell is the sexier pick.

[RavensFanMania]

Somebody we covet will fall to us. They have to because the draft always has surprise picks. This time there could be 2 QBs taken before us by Cleveland and Dallas. If both Paxton and Goff are available by the time we pick, there are going to be plenty of QB needy teams that may covet one or the other QB that would try to leapfrog SF to take that QB. In that case, we accumulate more picks for the future and move back a few spots but still be top 15. We'll get somebody that is going to be amazing any way. So, I can see one of these fall to us. Bosa, Ramsey, Hargreaves, Alexander, Treadwell or Ogbah.

 

 

Good point, there is always a suprise pick in the draft.

 

 

An example of last year would be the Skins taking Sherff over Leonard Williams.

[Mt. Crushmore]

An example of last year would be the Skins taking Sherff over Leonard Williams.

 

Considering what they invested in their DL in FA, I didn't think it was much of a surprise. In the final few days before the draft there had been talk that Scherff was Washington's guy.

[PurpleCity5]

An example of last year would be the Skins taking Sherff over Leonard Williams.

You can also say Sammy Watkins being drafted by Buffalo is one, same story with Blake Bortles and Jacksonville.

[JoeyFlex5]

My surprise pick is buckner or Robinson to the chargers. Idk how surprising that is though.

Bosa will top dallas' board, if he's not available then they will be after hargreaves I think. If the titans surprise everyone and take bosa, I could imagine tunsil falling to us If SD prefers a DL

[PurpleCity5]

My surprise pick is buckner or Robinson to the chargers. Idk how surprising that is though.

Bosa will top dallas' board, if he's not available then they will be after hargreaves I think. If the titans surprise everyone and take bosa, I could imagine tunsil falling to us If SD prefers a DL

With the problem Dallas has had, it wouldn't shock me if they picked up someone for inside help. They need a one tech very badly, to my knowledge Nick Hayden is pretty bad, it wouldn't shock me if they took Robinson. I think the defensive line is what's holding back their defense from being one of the best in the league. 

[JoeyFlex5]

With the problem Dallas has had, it wouldn't shock me if they picked up someone for inside help. They need a one tech very badly, to my knowledge Nick Hayden is pretty bad, it wouldn't shock me if they took Robinson. I think the defensive line is what's holding back their defense from being one of the best in the league.

except Bosa very well could fall there and I just don't see Jerry passing up the immense value and flashiness of Bosa at 4 for a NT/DT. I would be surprised and while they could take a guy like Robinson there, they also need some cb help, I won't bet onanything though they are wide open for this draft I think

[RavensFanMania]

Considering what they invested in their DL in FA, I didn't think it was much of a surprise. In the final few days before the draft there had been talk that Scherff was Washington's guy.

It is true that they picked up some players for the DL in the 2015 offseason.  That being said all were short term contracts.  A 5th pick for a guard isn't worth it imo.  Yes, they tried him out at guard, but it was pretty well known that he would be a better fit at guard. 

 

I also believe in pure bpa, except for QB, P and K.

Edited January 9, 2016 by RavensFanMania

[PurpleCity5]

except Bosa very well could fall there and I just don't see Jerry passing up the immense value and flashiness of Bosa at 4 for a NT/DT. I would be surprised and while they could take a guy like Robinson there, they also need some cb help, I won't bet onanything though they are wide open for this draft I think

I do agree that Bosa will be higher on his board, but it wouldn't shock me if they took Robinson and they do need a one tech. Dallas could very well be one of the shocker picks. IMO they are the biggest threat to take Bosa. 

Edited January 9, 2016 by PurpleCity5

[g8or_102352]

Ozzie said that in close games, a really good player can make the difference. Joe has never had a true #1 WR and if we can get Treadwell that could be what it takes to get Joe to the next level. Think of a lineup of Treadwell and Perriman on the outside and SSS in the slot, Gillmore and Williams at TE, and Forsett and Buck at RB. That could be a very dangerous offense. I just think that Treadwell is too good of a receiver to pass on. 

[KDUBB44]

Ozzie said that in close games, a really good player can make the difference. Joe has never had a true #1 WR and if we can get Treadwell that could be what it takes to get Joe to the next level. Think of a lineup of Treadwell and Perriman on the outside and SSS in the slot, Gillmore and Williams at TE, and Forsett and Buck at RB. That could be a very dangerous offense. I just think that Treadwell is too good of a receiver to pass on. 

Not going to mean anything if Webb is starting at CB for us next year. Doesn't matter how great our offense is we have to fix our defense or protection for Joe

[ravensnation5220]

Treadwell is also exactly what we need. He has great hands and excels in route running. Perriman's game breaking speed combined with Treadwell's consistency could be a great combination.

i would say hes still raw in route running. He always dips his shoulders to the side hes gonna break too and he doesnt seem to always get good seperation. He has shown very good ability to get off press with his physicality which is something i think we need. I like him as a pick still just wouldnt consider him a good route runner

[g8or_102352]

Not going to mean anything if Webb is starting at CB for us next year. Doesn't matter how great our offense is we have to fix our defense or protection for Joe

Our pass defense ranked 7th in the league the second half of the year. A healthy Jimmy Smith and the experience the secondary gained by playing together this year will make them better next year. Also, we could get a CB like Kendall Fuller or Artie Burns in the second or third round. 

Edited January 9, 2016 by g8or_102352

[JoeyFlex5]

Not going to mean anything if Webb is starting at CB for us next year. Doesn't matter how great our offense is we have to fix our defense or protection for Joe

well if we scored one more touchdown in every loss this year we would've been 13-3. That was with webb starting at cb. Can't possibly argue that having treadwell over Chris givens or aiken wouldn't have helped achieve that

[KDUBB44]

 I suppose drafting treadwell will allow Joe more time to throw downfield? What injury did Joe suffer this year? Oh yeah....