[News] Late For Work 9/21: Terrell Suggs Not Retiring, But Could Play Elsewhere

[rmcjacket23]

I get what you are saying but I feel like the first few weeks of the season teams are still getting used to playing with each other, against another team.  Sure practices and preseason helps but they are still feeling things out.  

 

West coast or not, its hard to start the season with two away games.  Ideally I would think a week 6-7 trip right before a bye week and a week 11-12 would be best, but that's just my personal opinion. 

Sure, but ideal doesn't work for the NFL, who has to schedule 32 teams on a weekly basis (ignoring bye weeks).

 

Scheduling is a crutch that non-playoff teams lean on to help justify the fact that they weren't good enough to make the playoffs.

[curtis0360]

The bright side here, is that we saw what both the D and the O can do on their best days. If they can put together four games of solid 60 minute football on both sides of the ball, then this 0-2 turns into a 4-2 like that.

[omar586]

We had to overcome ten point leads twice, never led the game at all till final couple of minutes... hard to justify much of a running game in that situation. We had to play catch up all day long thanks to the horrific defense play.

we had the lead with 4.58 left, we could've ran it more. our bread and butter is the running game, most often when the ravens pass more than they run we lose, with the way talf and forsett running i would've run out the clock with lead.

[Bat-mite]

Glad to see Jernigan owning up -- he lost us that game, IMO. Unless we need to go 15-1, then of course we have a chance at the playoffs. 2 losses does not mean the season is over. But we need to get better. Perriman will help.

[leroy31]

we had the lead with 4.58 left, we could've ran it more. our bread and butter is the running game, most often when the ravens pass more than they run we lose, with the way talf and forsett running i would've run out the clock with lead.

Yeah when Trestman called for a pass to the right and it was incomplete stopping the clock, and even if the player caught it he would still have went out of bounds. You can see Harbaugh shaking his head at the play calling.

[Ravensfansince03]

It is the "news" you are given, because yours is the reaction that is desired ... It is analyst speculation and not based on anything that came from either the player or the team. 

 

They don't put an article up on front page with that headline out of pure speculation. 

[leroy31]

Gilmore is a beast. Him an Max Williams should be used more.

Gillmore

Maxx

[DaRupp]

This one is on Dean Pees. Don't blame the lack of Suggs. You have to adjust with the players you have. We have a good secondary, blitz more. Carr went UNTOUCHED yesterday, and it doesn't matter how many people you have in coverage, you will get picked apart. Rush 5-6, hope your talented secondary can make up the difference and get in front of a bad throw (what a pass rush creates!).

Pees is toast IMO (or should be)

[rmcjacket23]

They don't put an article up on front page with that headline out of pure speculation. 

I mean, they sort of do though, because otherwise there isn't a headline.

 

If you really think about it, both from a production and financial standpoint, neither side has an incentive to move on from each other. A trade and an outright release yield the exact same effect on the salary cap for the Ravens, which is a negative one, not a positive one. 

 

And I certainly doubt that Suggs could go on the open market at his age and after a second Achilles tear and net more than $4.5M in 2016.

 

I just don't see the goal for either side for a divorce.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

There have been a few bone-headed blunders the Ravens have been making that cost them yardage and downs. Jernigan's penalty stopped the Ravens from possibly containing the Raiders and getting a punt and good field position into letting the Raiders march back down the field for points. Good teams don't make those mistakes. The defense looked horrible and I am sure they aren't as bad as they looked. No pass rush and a confused secondary that also is still dealing with lingering health issues because there is no way I believe Jimmy Smith is as healthy as he says he is; even though he's saying he's not 100%, I think he's about 80%. He can't cut and move on that foot yet. Webb is also not healthy. Whether he's got lingering back issues or the multiple knee injuries he's had are catching up to him, he's now serviceable instead of rock steady. Hopefully they get healthy soon and get things figured out. Team has too much talent to look as bad as they did against the Raiders.

[Ravensfansince03]

I mean, they sort of do though, because otherwise there isn't a headline.

 

If you really think about it, both from a production and financial standpoint, neither side has an incentive to move on from each other. A trade and an outright release yield the exact same effect on the salary cap for the Ravens, which is a negative one, not a positive one. 

 

And I certainly doubt that Suggs could go on the open market at his age and after a second Achilles tear and net more than $4.5M in 2016.

 

I just don't see the goal for either side for a divorce.

 

Teams would take Suggs in an heartbeat

[rmcjacket23]

Teams would take Suggs in an heartbeat

Yes, as a FA and for less than $4.5M a year...

[WordProphet]

You know I can't even understand how they can even think about giving up on Suggs, I mean the Ravens are still trying to recover from all the superbowl players that they released and we still haven't recovered from that yet. So we got rid of Torey Smith and the only real wide receiver we had in this game was Steve Smith Sr. Seems to me saving money is more important that winning, so being cheap is going to get you no playoffs, remember you get what you pay for. You don't want to pay anybody the money they deserve like you did Flacco, then you wind up in a bind like this. We are now 0 and 2, where do we go from here, I guess we'll see hu, because now we have serious contenders to deal with over these next few games. Now Jernigan messed up and so did hill because they were not thinking, which is why we lost the game for we gave the Raiders 20yards and put them 1st and 10 at the goal line, we shot our ownselves in the foot!!!

[WordProphet]

And another thing what we have to do is think outside of the box, you just cannot do what you always did to win in the NFL today, I don't care if you are a passing coordinator or heavy on the run, you just cannot afford to do the same thing all the time because they are prepared for you for they know just what you are going to do and are "PREPARED" for that. Stop being hardheaded, because it is not about you, it's about the team. And if the only thing you can think about is the way I do things, then you need to be fired and replaced for you have to think outside of the box in this game today. The Patriots I cannot stand, but they always think outside of the box and are always prepared to do whatever they have to do to win. How come we can't be like that? The Patriots stay at the top, when was the last time they were in last place!!!

[Ravens_Flock]

If he can stay healthy, why would we even consider NOT playing Suggs in 2016? You see our D wihtout him. IF he can play and play at a reasonably high level, then he should be playing as a Raven, that was the point of extending him.

[Ravensfolyfe]

During the preseason the media hyped us up as superbowl bound now it's....hahahahaha! "Playoffs" Huh!...how about winning our first game in 2015.

[Crusader]

Heck if John and company are in to just saving money on players lets just get the cheerleaders in mini skirts or the school for the blind to play for the Ravens.... Morons Part 2 of the Purge. I think John wants fired so he can go work with his brother.

[Crusader]

Second thought lets get ride of some of these coaches to save money who quite obviously they do not know there jobs!

[Militant X 1]

But with Suggs and Elvis Dumervil (31) aging, La Canfora says the Ravens were already considering adding young pass rushers, with a high priority on acquiring some in the 2016 draft.

 

^ Please make this happen!

Edited September 22, 2015 by Militant X 1

[Zeus]

No but another wasted pick.

Kindle was a good pick and so was Elam, right?

[mearzunkies]

LOL one game is "seeing our D without" Suggs. HAH pity you huh? Just enjoy the games.

[Maryland]

Why would anyone even throw out Suggs being cut as a possibility? We would incur a cap HIT of $1.4 mil (you usually only cut players who SAVE you money). Add in that our pass rush is already painfully thin and that Suggs is one of our few remaining team leaders and there is Zero-chance he is cut. Pretty stupid to even suggest it.

 

Even if Suggs doesn't have the same burst next season, he can still set the edge with the best of them. Suggs could even take Upshaw's role, considering Upshaw is a FA, and Suggs, even at age 34 and coming off injury, would still be a better pass rusher than Upshaw. Draft/sign more pass-rushers, but keep Suggs regardless. 

[btfan2]

I think the underlying problem is Pee's period. He's to soft. How many games has his silly bend don't break cost us. WE no longer play "D" with fire and boy does it show. Teams no longer fear playing the ravens.

Harbaugh will keep him even though he is mediocre at best. Harbaugh lacks the grit to do the hard stuff until Boscoti gets involved.

[ryananth]

I think its much ado about nothing.

 

I don't even think a reworked contract is going to happen or is even necessary. Suggs has no incentive to change anything, and the Ravens basically can't cut him.

 

I expect him to be back here in 2016 and angry...

Let's hope

[RavenManiac#7]

Come on, Timmy. "A Little late"! That might have been the latest roughing the passer hit that I have Ever seen. I'm glad that you owned it, Timmy, but own it for what it really was. There was nothing a "Little late" about that hit. It was a WHOLE LOT late. No question!