Bisciotti can't be happy

[52N19]

i heard it cost $1mm to stay out on the west coast for the week. that seems like a very large amount   but supposedly they shipped equipment out to the west coast in addition to all of the living arrangements. 

 

the cost to stay out there shows the owners commitment to winning but his employees did not live up to their side of the bargain.

[K-Dog]

I think the stay out west was more of a benefit than a detriment. Its definitely not why they lost.

[Edgar]

He won't tolerate that sort of performance for an entire season.

[usmccharles]

I have no doubt staff changes will be made if this continues

[salamander]

I feel bad for our owner Steve and appreciate his willingness to spend the money to ease the hardship of back to back west coast games. Ravens should have won the game regardless of whether they stayed out west or not but Steve was willing to go the extra mile to help our chances to insure that win. We are fortunate to have Steve as our owner, willing to spend a million bucks to help his team. Tell you what, if I were a coach or player, I sure would be ashamed to look Steve in the eye right now. Both play calling and play execution were downright atrocious at times.

Edited September 21, 2015 by salamander

[PurpleCity5]

We're very lucky to have Steve as an owner man. Very lucky.

[redlobster]

I never feel sorry for multi-billionaires, you want to run a team you need to pay (and in reality, he doesn't lose money on the ravens)

[FlackAttack]

lol steve did not pay for anything. the billions of dollars in revenue the team makes paid for it.

[redrum52]

I never feel sorry for multi-billionaires, you want to run a team you need to pay (and in reality, he doesn't lose money on the ravens)

Oh, poor Steve...

Jokes aside the Ravens are now at about 2 billion in value. He's in it for the money, but he actually wants a winner.

[1/28/01]

lol steve did not pay for anything. the billions of dollars in revenue the team makes paid for it.

Are you an employee or an employer? Steve definitely pays for it all.

Edit - But who cares really?

Edited September 21, 2015 by 1/28/01

[rmcjacket23]

He won't tolerate that sort of performance for an entire season.

Not really much he can do about it quite honestly... its up to the players and coaches.

 

There isn't some major influx in talent that's all of the sudden going to arrive in town out of nowhere... this team, less maybe Perriman, is sort of assembled the way its going to look for most of the season.

 

Firing a HC, an OC or a DC, etc. really isn't going to change anything about this team midseason. 

 

And before I hear the "well we fired Cam Cameron and won a SB" logic, we were 9-4 when we fired Cam Cameron. There's a significant difference between being 9-4 and being 0-4 or whatever record it would take for anybody to make a change.

[Edgar]

Not really much he can do about it quite honestly... its up to the players and coaches.

 

There isn't some major influx in talent that's all of the sudden going to arrive in town out of nowhere... this team, less maybe Perriman, is sort of assembled the way its going to look for most of the season.

 

Firing a HC, an OC or a DC, etc. really isn't going to change anything about this team midseason. 

 

And before I hear the "well we fired Cam Cameron and won a SB" logic, we were 9-4 when we fired Cam Cameron. There's a significant difference between being 9-4 and being 0-4 or whatever record it would take for anybody to make a change.

Thanks for clarifying. I was under the impression he might put on pads.

 

if that sort of performance becomes the norm he isn't opposed to making  a change. 

[rmcjacket23]

Thanks for clarifying. I was under the impression he might put on pads.

 

if that sort of performance becomes the norm he isn't opposed to making  a change. 

Cool, and that sort of change is typically one that's made in the offseason.

 

Can't think of a single change that would be made if we started 0-4 that would save the season. A change would be for the future, not for the present.

[salamander]

The fact that the Ravens team is worth about 2 billion dollars is not the point. A million dollars is still a million dollars. Steve chose to spend this money willingly to benefit the team. To say it doesn't cost the owner is wrong factually and I think we Ravens fans should appreciate the fact that we have an owner willing to go to such lengths, financial and otherwise, to help this team in every way possible. Some other owners may not have been willing to foot the bill for this extended west coast stay. A million dollars is a lot of money, even to billionaires.

Edited September 21, 2015 by salamander

[The Mom Gene]

Best Owner in the League.....

 

Loves the City...  Loves the Fans... Loves the Game.  He said it last year during the RR debacle...  When it's not fun anymore????  That's when he'll get out.

We are all spoiled BECAUSE he is our owner.  It could be much much worst.

 

 

I love Steve Bisciotti... 

 

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[K-Dog]

Best Owner in the League.....

Loves the City... Loves the Fans... Loves the Game. He said it last year during the RR debacle... When it's not fun anymore???? That's when he'll get out.

We are all spoiled BECAUSE he is our owner. It could be much much worst.

I love Steve Bisciotti...

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In addition to all that, he knows his role, but is still involved.

He is not a GM or a HC or a scout.

He lets his people do their jobs and buts out.

He takes GREAT care of his people. He takes GREAT care of his team. He takes GREAT care of us fans.

Super proud of him as an owner.

[pitchblack_20]

Oh, poor Steve...

Jokes aside the Ravens are now at about 2 billion in value. He's in it for the money, but he actually wants a winner.

The winners are the ones who bring in the money. Just like the players, you play good you get a lot of money.

[pitchblack_20]

The fact that the Ravens team is worth about 2 billion dollars is not the point. A million dollars is still a million dollars. Steve chose to spend this money willingly to benefit the team. To say it doesn't cost the owner is wrong factually and I think we Ravens fans should appreciate the fact that we have an owner willing to go to such lengths, financial and otherwise, to help this team in every way possible. Some other owners may not have been willing to foot the bill for this extended west coast stay. A million dollars is a lot of money, even to billionaires.

I think the point they were trying to make is, a million dollars is probably not a lot of money to a billionaire, WHEN you're getting it back from the same thing you spent it on in tenfold. Who knows he may have even saved money someway, Idk but let's be honest Steve was a billionaire probably long before the Ravens, I don't think he would worry about spending 1 million on his investment.

[balfan23]

Best Owner in the League.....

 

Loves the City...  Loves the Fans... Loves the Game.  He said it last year during the RR debacle...  When it's not fun anymore????  That's when he'll get out.

We are all spoiled BECAUSE he is our owner.  It could be much much worst.

 

 

I love Steve Bisciotti... 

 

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I'm hoping it will be fun for him for many years to come. If not, I cringe to think what could happen. 

 

Having an owner with the right mindset is critical to success. We have one now. I really hope it stays that way. 

[cushrinada1986]

Oh, poor Steve...

Jokes aside the Ravens are now at about 2 billion in value. He's in it for the money, but he actually wants a winner.

No wins, no value. Ask the Jags how much value they have right now...

[FlackAttack]

I think the point they were trying to make is, a million dollars is probably not a lot of money to a billionaire, WHEN you're getting it back from the same thing you spent it on in tenfold. Who knows he may have even saved money someway, Idk but let's be honest Steve was a billionaire probably long before the Ravens, I don't think he would worry about spending 1 million on his investment.

 

exactly, its a business decision, an investment. the organization forks out money to help the team produce which returns revenue with more wins (unfortunately that wasnt the case this week), but it really is that simple. the ravens organization is consistent because of business decisions like these. none of the money came straight out his pocket, its all business.

[rmcjacket23]

No wins, no value. Ask the Jags how much value they have right now...

According to Forbes, nearly $1.5B.

 

There's teams like the Redskins, Jets, Texans, etc. who really haven't won anything ever or at least haven't won anything in several decades that all, by financial standards, have higher "values" than the Ravens.

 

Winning is a major factor to the guys who own the team for the most part. It probably represents less than 10% of the value of a franchise if a franchise were actually up for sale.

[Ravenseconbeast]

According to Forbes, nearly $1.5B.

 

There's teams like the Redskins, Jets, Texans, etc. who really haven't won anything ever or at least haven't won anything in several decades that all, by financial standards, have higher "values" than the Ravens.

 

Winning is a major factor to the guys who own the team for the most part. It probably represents less than 10% of the value of a franchise if a franchise were actually up for sale.

 

 

Exactly.  We should have a bigger fan base than what we have right now.  Maybe its the brand and lack of top players that doesn't appeal to the amateur fans, but we are a winning team.   But we need players and a brand that generate appeal.  We don't have much.   

You have a franchise QB that is pretty much nationally mocked at that is the face of the franchise.   We have no stars that are the best in the league.   

Our best players are young and will need to be really good.   Im sure none of Ravens jersey in the league are selling at top 10(or even top 20) So not at the best time to be a high value team.

Edited September 21, 2015 by Ravenseconbeast

[The Mom Gene]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2015/03/07/full-list-billionaire-sports-team-owners-2015/4/

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Forbes....

9. Stephen Bisciotti

Baltimore Ravens

Net worth: $2.7 billion

[rmcjacket23]

Exactly.  We should have a bigger fan base than what we have right now.  Maybe its the brand and lack of top players that doesn't appeal to the amateur fans, but we are a winning team.   But we need players and a brand that generate appeal.  We don't have much.   

You have a franchise QB that is pretty much nationally mocked at that is the face of the franchise.   We have no stars that are the best in the league.   

Our best players are young and will need to be really good.   Im sure none of Ravens jersey in the league are selling at top 10(or even top 20) So not at the best time to be a high value team.

Market size is generally the biggest driver...

 

Baltimore is a relatively middle of the road market in terms of market sizes for TV ratings and population.

[salamander]

I think the point they were trying to make is, a million dollars is probably not a lot of money to a billionaire, WHEN you're getting it back from the same thing you spent it on in tenfold. Who knows he may have even saved money someway, Idk but let's be honest Steve was a billionaire probably long before the Ravens, I don't think he would worry about spending 1 million on his investment.

I agree that spending a million dollars is in a different perspective to a person who is worth a couple of billion dollars than normal folks. However, I doubt seriously that there is any way Steve possibly saved money by paying for this west coast trip. My point is that Steve goes out of his way to perhaps spend more than other equally wealthy owners may spend. Steve has top notch facilities, etc.. My point is that there appears to be no additional profit to him or his organization for having footed this bill, other than trying to increase our chances of a win. Certainly there's no profit, financial or otherwise, that we left town with a loss. Since I am not a billionaire, I can't say that a billionaire takes spending a million dollars on a trip is no big deal. Perhaps some millionaires becomes billionaires because they do not take spending a million dollars lightly? All I know for sure is that I am grateful Steve is a generous owner and I appreciate what he does for this team.

[FlackAttack]

Exactly.  We should have a bigger fan base than what we have right now.  Maybe its the brand and lack of top players that doesn't appeal to the amateur fans, but we are a winning team.   But we need players and a brand that generate appeal.  We don't have much.   

You have a franchise QB that is pretty much nationally mocked at that is the face of the franchise.   We have no stars that are the best in the league.   

Our best players are young and will need to be really good.   Im sure none of Ravens jersey in the league are selling at top 10(or even top 20) So not at the best time to be a high value team.

 

lack of top players? you serious?

 

ray lewis, terrell suggs, ed reed, haloti gnata, those 4 alone skyrocketed our franchise. and the raiders game was the first in what? a decade? that none of those players were on the field.

 

dont even get me started on mocked QBs. would you rather have a jay cutler? or how about a kirk cousins/ RG-KNEE debacle? or sam bradford? little bit of johnny manziel?

 

ravens fans are spoiled man

Edited September 21, 2015 by FlackAttack

[rmcjacket23]

I agree that spending a million dollars is in a different perspective to a person who is worth a couple of billion dollars than normal folks. However, I doubt seriously that there is any way Steve possibly saved money by paying for this west coast trip. My point is that Steve goes out of his way to perhaps spend more than other equally wealthy owners may spend. Steve has top notch facilities, etc.. My point is that there appears to be no additional profit to him or his organization for having footed this bill, other than trying to increase our chances of a win. Certainly there's no profit, financial or otherwise, that we left town with a loss. Since I am not a billionaire, I can't say that a billionaire takes spending a million dollars on a trip is no big deal. Perhaps some millionaires becomes billionaires because they do not take spending a million dollars lightly? All I know for sure is that I am grateful Steve is a generous owner and I appreciate what he does for this team.

For him, its just a simple ROI consideration.

 

Does spending that extra $1M benefit the franchise? Harbaugh/the FO clearly convinced him that it did, and maybe in the end it did, because we can't possibly know the outcome of the other side of the decision.

 

But at some point, Bischotti is probably looking at this and saying "OK, I spent the $1M... what does this get me"?

 

When you win, you get more attention both publicly and locally, thus boosting  your viewership and increase your revenue in most cases. When you lose, the potential opposite can happen. Ravens have a strong enough following that these increases and decreases aren't really relevant in the short-term, but could potentially matter in the long-term.

 

Short answer... Steve is spending that money because he thinks it will yield him benefit in some form or fashion.

[cobrajet]

Best Owner in the League.....

 

Loves the City...  Loves the Fans... Loves the Game.  He said it last year during the RR debacle...  When it's not fun anymore????  That's when he'll get out.

We are all spoiled BECAUSE he is our owner.  It could be much much worst.

 

 

I love Steve Bisciotti... 

 

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Me too!

[A Fish Called Yanda]

The Ravens can write off the business expenses, so I'm not sure that is a reason for him to get angry.  I'd think he'd be a little more heated that we lost to the Oakland freaking Raiders.