The Good, Bad and Ugly vs Raiders

[Dr. Kelley]

Lets be honest:

Trestman: not as advertised

Pees: really, we need to stop making excuses, the patterns are there

[ratedr]

But who are we kidding Pees isn't going anywhere, the FO will just say "it was Suggs being out" and we'll be stuck with him for another year. "I like Pees under fire." Uh huh.

[Grendelwulf21]

lol The Pees crowd was already using Suggs as an excuse for that performance.

 

We could've won with traffic cones as our Defense, maybe some marbles to make them slip, might as well hire macaulay culkin as our DC 

[jimmypowder]

Not an overreaction at all.Pees shoulda been gone a while ago

Yep,we also waited too long like this with Cam .

[Bruce_Almty]

Lots of talent waiting in the wings ... Perriman, Maxx Williams, Zsmith. The team will come around.

 

                                         Do Not Despair Raven Fans.

Edited September 21, 2015 by Bruce_Almty

[Dr. Kelley]

But who are we kidding Pees isn't going anywhere, the FO will just say "it was Suggs being out" and we'll be stuck with him for another year. "I like Pees under fire." Uh huh.

THIS needs repeated

[ratedr]

Lets be honest:

Trestman: not as advertised

Pees: really, we need to stop making excuses, the patterns are there

Was skeptical of Trestman, and I'm still not sold, though it should be noted that our weapons on offense are pretty bad. But do I think we're better with Kubiak? Abso-freaking-lutely.

 

And there was no reason to abandon the run on that last drive when we were trying to eat clock.

[redrum52]

The O didn't struggle. Please. In no universe except your own does a QB rating over 100, rushing yards over 100 and passing yards over 300 plus over 30 pts amount to a struggling offense.

Aren't you the one always talking about being "clutch."  How clutch was the offense at the end when we needed a TD and had a wide open WR?  First drive fumble and stalled drives until players from the Raiders started going down.  Call it what you want. 4-11 on 3rd down sure is efficient and held scoreless in the 3rd. 

[Militant X 1]

The good - I loved watching the game on my new 65' inch UHD 4K television mounted over my fireplace.  It was crystal clear!

 

The bad - Now, I got to see all of these highlights for the next week and hear from all of my pals that been telling me that the Ravens are done ever since Suggs went down!

 

The ugly - This Ravens team...offensively and defensively....is not as good as we'd like them to be or that we think they are.

 

It is what it is and they are what they are!

[Dr. Kelley]

Was skeptical of Trestman, and I'm still not sold, though it should be noted that our weapons on offense are pretty bad. But do I think we're better with Kubiak? Abso-freaking-lutely.

And there was no reason to abandon the run on that last drive when we were trying to eat clock.

Agreed, id give him a few more games, obviously. But our division rivals rolled these guys and we lost. Not a good look.

[Ravensfan23]

Honestly i have nothing to say about the defense right now. Suggs is a great players but his absence shouldn't have made that much of an impact. For all those that attack Pees, this is a gane to do it for sure.

As for offense. They played great but still had so poor moments. Can't knock it too much because it worked but Joe has to start getting other guys involved. You won't be able to go to SR every play. Also Joe has to be better with throwing the ball down field. That lob it up to give your guy a shot has to stop. Plant your feet in the dirt and use your accuracy. You have to make the throws to Waller, Brown and Smith in the endzone. Not sure if the Waller under throw costed the team 6 but the Brown lob and the Smith lob costed. But overall Flacco played well enough to win the game and showed what can be when given time to throw.

Tresman had his negative moments but i loved the aggressive nature of the offense. Many will question the play call on the final drive as will I but if you re gonna have an aggressive nature, you have to take the good with the bad. Overall i liked how he keep the defense off balance.

The oline opened so big holes but definitely didn't have a consistent presence in the run game. I'm willing to give the offense a pass because they are still developing, but you gotta show that championship poise of finishing that game once Hill got the int.

Quick turnover and i actually don't worry about the team coming home against the Bengals because the defense seems to play up to the level of competition. 0-2 sucks but there is still a lot of meaningful football to be played.

[beanfigger]

Anyone else get super ticked off when your team kicks it out of the ends one after a huge penalty? It's like wasting the yardage. We were kicking from the fifty! A squib kick or high pop up inside the ten, and we would have been right on top of the returner when they fielded it. They certainly took advantage of all our penalties, but they lose their cool and give us a gift and we flush it down the toilet.

[jimmypowder]

Lets be honest:

Trestman: not as advertised

Pees: really, we need to stop making excuses, the patterns are there

I never thought Trestman would be as good as Kubiak and he isn't . When he got the

Denver job , I thought it would be a big setback for our offense .

With Kubes , we score 40 here and win .

[Bryden88]

Why are we crapping on our offense. ANY OTHER GAME 33 points would be a win. Our defense dropped it. Our defense cost us.

[DomMcRaven]

The three California teams vs. the AFC North today: 1-2. Should be the other way around with the one California team we needed to lose their game and the others to win theirs. Disgusted......

[Grendelwulf21]

The good - I loved watching the game on my new 65' inch UHD 4K television mounted over my fireplace.  It was crystal clear!

 

The bad - Now, I got to see all of these highlights for the next week and hear from all of my pals that been telling me that the Ravens are done ever since Suggs went down!

 

The ugly - This Ravens team...offensively and defensively....is not as good as we'd like them to be or that we think they are.

 

It is what it is and they are what they are!

I need a new TV! I got a 46 back in my old apartment and it looked so big but now it looks so small far away hahaha

[ratedr]

Honestly i have nothing to say about the defense right now. Suggs is a great players but his absence shouldn't have made that much of an impact. For all those that attack Pees, this is a gane to do it for sure.

As for offense. They played great but still had so poor moments. Can't knock it too much because it worked but Joe has to start getting other guys involved. You won't be able to go to SR every play. Also Joe has to be better with throwing the ball down field. That lob it up to give your guy a shot has to stop. Plant your feet in the dirt and use your accuracy. You have to make the throws to Waller, Brown and Smith in the endzone. Not sure if the Waller under throw costed the team 6 but the Brown lob and the Smith lob costed. But overall Flacco played well enough to win the game and showed what can be when given time to throw.

Tresman had his negative moments but i loved the aggressive nature of the offense. Many will question the play call on the final drive as will I but if you re gonna have an aggressive nature, you have to take the good with the bad. Overall i liked how he keep the defense off balance.

The oline opened so big holes but definitely didn't have a consistent presence in the run game. I'm willing to give the offense a pass because they are still developing, but you gotta show that championship poise of finishing that game once Hill got the int.

Quick turnover and i actually don't worry about the team coming home against the Bengals because the defense seems to play up to the level of competition. 0-2 sucks but there is still a lot of meaningful football to be played.

Agreed, someone needs to tell Joe that Boldin is in San Francisco now.

[Dr. Kelley]

I never thought Trestman would be as good as Kubiak and he isn't . When he got the Denver job , I thought it would be a big setback for our offense .With Kubes , we score 40 here and win .

Nobody was expecting Kubes, but I'm just saying trestman is not as good as advertised

[jaege]

The question is, who replaces Peas?

 

Well, there was an elderly lady in the front row at the game wearing a purple dress that could replace Pees. And the guy next to her, the husband I and guessing, could replace Trestman. They couldn't do worse. And there a bunch of waterboys that could step up. we have lots of better options.

Edited September 21, 2015 by jaege

[Sami84]

and no.suggs out is not an excuse

 

look at dallas..

 

they are DECIMATED

 

HECK OAKLAND WAS decimated 

 

did you see the D they had out there in the 2nd half? Mack was injured..same with tuck..their secondary was practice squad players and a 40 year old banged up charles woodson

 

this is beyond embarrassing. Its a joke. 

[52liveforever]

Idk Oakland's weakness was their secondary so we attacked it. Still I'm not happy with some of the packages he used. 

 

Yeah I don't know why we weren't running more double tight end sets. I feel like Maxx has proven himself when he has been I and Crocket has more than proved himself. He is looking like if pitta does come back he will come back as the number 2 tight end

[ratedr]

And though the offense played well overall today...again it should be noted that Oakland was not healthy on defense at all. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see the offense lay an egg next week against Cincy, a team that we ALWAYS struggle against regardless of how good we are.

[flynismo]

The good - I loved watching the game on my new 65' inch UHD 4K television mounted over my fireplace. It was crystal clear!

hahaha

I just got one too, best money ever spent!

[Jillester]

The Good:  Offense put up 33 points.  The Bad:  The Raiders put up 37 points:  The Ugly:  Dismal performance by the Ravens defense.

[Dr. Kelley]

Well, there was an elderly lady in the front row at the game wearing a purple dress that could replace Pees. And the guy next to her, the husband I and guessing, could replace Trestman. They couldn't do worse. And there a bunch of waterboys that could step up. we have lots of better options.

At this point, id take the grandma in a dress over Pees

Dude, grannies are fierce, don't play

[ravensdfan]

Was skeptical of Trestman, and I'm still not sold, though it should be noted that our weapons on offense are pretty bad. But do I think we're better with Kubiak? Abso-freaking-lutely.

 

And there was no reason to abandon the run on that last drive when we were trying to eat clock.

 

Not impressed so far with Trestman but honestly, I've seen nothing to suggest he has more to work with than Flacco, Gilmore & Smith Sr.  so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt right now. We all knew Kubiak was a huge loss but thought Trestman would be better than he is. I'm also thinking the loss of Kubiak hurt the O line play. They were downright awful in Denver and at least 2 of Joe's poor throws were a breakdown in protection. Exactly why I saved my praise for Castillo when everyone called for it last season. Felt it was more of Kubiak's influence.

Why are we crapping on our offense. ANY OTHER GAME 33 points would be a win. Our defense dropped it. Our defense cost us.

That is what we do here. All losses are on the offense. Doesn't matter that the Defense can't stop a turtle.

[MiamiRaven55]

I mentioned previously don't take the Raider's lightly with Mack and Smith but got made fun of.......... and now we're in a situation.....

[DomMcRaven]

and no.suggs out is not an excuse

 

look at dallas..

 

they are DECIMATED

 

HECK OAKLAND WAS decimated 

 

did you see the D they had out there in the 2nd half? Mack was injured..same with tuck..their secondary was practice squad players and a 40 year old banged up charles woodson

 

this is beyond embarrassing. Its a joke. 

Exactly! I'm so disgusted......

[Maryland]

The narrative seems to be "oh look how much Suggs meant to this defense," but the mere presence of Suggs isn't going to make our guys stop missing tackles or Webb faster. However, it was noticeable how much worse our pass-rush was and how much easier it is to run on McClellan and S.Smith. 

 

However, Ravens never cease to surprise me. They always seem to bounce back somehow and tear off several W's. We'll see. 

[redrum52]

Nobody was expecting Kubes, but I'm just saying trestman is not as good as advertised

I was expecting more, but in his defense, he's not working with all the pieces.  From week 8 on, this offense could be much more potent, especially if Pitta can come back and Perriman gets a little rhythm with Flacco.  Would also help if that LT getting with the 5th (I think) highest contract on the team starts getting on the field and performing.