Next up: Cincinnati Bengals

[Cillmatic]

D vs. DEN and O vs. OAK, my oh my, how convenient....

Why does everyone continue to say that the defense did well against the Broncos, because we did well against someone who can't throw over 15 yards accurately? Go back and watch the game footage, Webb got beat deep many times and Jimmy and KLew got beat deep once, not to mention the medium in route that D.Thomas beat Jimmy on, had Peyton not thrown the ball straight to Demarius's Feet that would've been a possible touchdown. Plus, it's not like the Offense was that good against Oakland... We put up some points against Oaklands backup Cornerbacks and a safety with a dislocated Shoulder, big deal; run game still didn't do much and Flacco under-throw numerous targets. Don't mean to be the bringer of bad news but come on people, watch the games.

Edited September 23, 2015 by Cillmatic

[rmcjacket23]

Why does everyone continue to say that the defense did well against the Broncos, because we did well against someone who can't throw over 15 yards accurately? Go back and watch the game footage, Webb got beat deep many times and Jimmy and KLew got beat deep once, not to mention the medium in route that D.Thomas beat Jimmy on, had Peyton not thrown the ball straight to Demarius's Feet that would've been a possible touchdown. Plus, it's not like the Offense was that good against Oakland... We put up some points against Oaklands backup Cornerbacks and a safety with a dislocated Shoulder, big deal; run game still didn't do much and Flacco under-throw numerous targets. Don't mean to be the bringer of bad news but come on people, watch the games.

Gary Kubiak disagrees with you.

[Cillmatic]

Gary Kubiak disagrees with you.

What did he say?

[rmcjacket23]

What did he say?

That the Ravens/Broncos game was the best defensive game he'd every seen in his life... from both teams.

 

In general, I agree that we weren't some unstoppable force out there against Denver, and we certainly made mistakes. But they couldn't run on us, we got to the QB and pressured him fairly consistently, and we made critical stops on third down when we needed to.

 

I don't expect perfection. 

Edited September 23, 2015 by rmcjacket23

[Cillmatic]

That the Ravens/Broncos game was the best defensive game he'd every seen in his life... from both teams.

1. Hes a friend of the team, what do you expect him to say "the Ravens sucked"? Plus it was his first game with Denver, he probably wanted to strike the Broncos D's ego some.

2. We defended the short passes well, that's it, couple that with the fact that Peyton can't throw deep, the numbers would show it was a good defensive game.

3. Former coaches of a team normally always give high praise to his past team.

I agree that the D-line did well but it's not like this defense is any different from the past.

Edited September 23, 2015 by Cillmatic

[rmcjacket23]

1. Hes a friend of the team, what do you expect him to say "the Ravens sucked"? Plus it was his first game with Denver, he probably wanted to strike the Broncos D's ego some.

2. We defended the short passes well, that's it, couple that with the fact that Peyton can't throw deep, the numbers would show it was a good defensive game.

3. Former coaches of a team normally always give high praise to his past team.

I agree that the D-line did well but it's not like this defense is any different from the past.

1. Well, he doesn't really have to say anything at all. Generally praise would involve saying things like "they played a good game over there". Not exactly common for HC's to come out and say "that's the best defensive game I've ever seen". 

 

2. Yes, we defend the short passes well, which IS different from the past. Last years secondary and defense did NOT defend the short passes well, which is why they weren't as good in my opinion as this one. We defended the areas of the field that needed to be defended well. Just because we know he can't throw deep doesn't mean its easy to defend him, because that hasn't been the case league-wide for about 5 years now.

[Bengal Billy]

As a Bengals fan, I honestly think the Ravens will take this game.

On defense:

The Bengals LBs are very susceptible to the pass and run. I think if the Ravens mostly stick to utilizing RBs and TEs, those guys will have monster games.

On Offense:

1. The Bengals O-line is very solid (I'm so glad they've drafted with a strong focus there). That being said,, the Ravens really need to pressure Dalton alot. He's a terrible choker when pressure gets to him. So far this year, Dalton has looked very good when he's had time and great protection.

2. The Bengals can be counted on to make a very bone-headed mistake on offense (they do this every week religiously). Jeremy Hill is a fumbling machine. If the Bengals primarily use him, count on him putting the ball on the turf at least once. Last week, he finally got benched after fumbling. Gio Bernard got fed the rock, and he put up 123 yards in in a shortened game for him (as good as Hill is,,, I really wish Cincy would use Bernard as the primary guy. He's a "home-run" just waiting to be hit, but he has to have the chances).

3. Dalton,, we'll you know. He's going to make a very bone-headed mistake at least once too (He got extreme lucky last week with that pitiful "tuck rule" call that should've been a fumble). The Ravens need to capitalize when Dalton serves then up a "softball".

The Ravens should win this one.

Home Opener + Urgency = Victory

Feed the RBS and TEs.

Capitalize on Dalton/Hill Int and fumbling.

[frozen joe flacco fan]

As a Bengals fan, I honestly think the Ravens will take this game.

On defense:

The Bengals LBs are very susceptible to the pass and run. I think if the Ravens mostly stick to utilizing RBs and TEs, those guys will have monster games.

On Offense:

1. The Bengals O-line is very solid (I'm so glad they've drafted with a strong focus there). That being said,, the Ravens really need to pressure Dalton alot. He's a terrible choker when pressure gets to him. So far this year, Dalton has looked very good when he's had time and great protection.

2. The Bengals can be counted on to make a very bone-headed mistake on offense (they do this every week religiously). Jeremy Hill is a fumbling machine. If the Bengals primarily use him, count on him putting the ball on the turf at least once. Last week, he finally got benched after fumbling. Gio Bernard got fed the rock, and he put up 123 yards in in a shortened game for him (as good as Hill is,,, I really wish Cincy would use Bernard as the primary guy. He's a "home-run" just waiting to be hit, but he has to have the chances).

3. Dalton,, we'll you know. He's going to make a very bone-headed mistake at least once too (He got extreme lucky last week with that pitiful "tuck rule" call that should've been a fumble). The Ravens need to capitalize when Dalton serves then up a "softball".

The Ravens should win this one.

Home Opener + Urgency = Victory

Feed the RBS and TEs.

Capitalize on Dalton/Hill Int and fumbling.

I agree that the Ravens will win on Sunday and there are many reasons why they will win. I'm sure John Harbaugh and his staff will take your analytical reasoning to heart. We will win because our team is better than yours and our QB is better than your QB. In this day of parity in the NFL, games are usually decided by a couple big plays by the defense and/or the offense. We shoulda, coulda and woulda won both of our road games if we had made a big play with the game on the line. More games are lost in the NFL by the losing team rather than being won by the winning team and that is what happened to us in our first two games. We beat ourselves. On Sunday, Cincinnati will incur the curse of Edgar Allan Poe and be beaten into submission by the winless Ravens. Our team will finally put together a complete game by the offense and defense and special teams. I have it on reliable source that you Bengal fans are very uncomfortable with Andy Dalton as your QB. Let it be so on Sunday.

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[Cin-sational]

I have read through the comments and decided to chime in because Bengal Billy seemed like he wanted to sugar coat stuff.

This game will be close because you guys are 0-2 and will be in desperation mode. Can you guys pull it off? Of course, can we? Absolutely.

Frozen joe flacco is right you have the better qb and you have the better LB core but other than that I would not trade any other position with you guys and feel like we have the edge in every other area. Even your head coach called us "the most Talented Team in the NFL".

All i can say for sure is if you don't stop the run early and often, if you get no pressure on Dalton you should expect to fall to 0-3.

Also the bengals play best when they keep the lead. If you can force us to play catch up, you could take this one.

Also im not a big Dalton homer but most QBs play bad under pressure. His "bone headed" play is usually because he is rattled. Our O-line is playing lights out.

Anyway Good Luck and lets see who puts the better team on the field Sunday.

[balfan23]

It all starts with this weekend. There are no moral victories ... certainly not when you are 0-2. A narrow defeat or a blow-out are really no different at this point. 

 

I can't believe the article claiming this is not a must-win. That's absurd. A win and we have hope. A loss and we're on a slippery slope toward a complete meltdown. 

 

It is not going to be easy. It is hard for anyone to see the uneven play we've put on the field in the last 2 games (despite both of them being games we had a shot at winning at the end) and not be concerned. We can only hope that some home cooking will be what the doctor ordered.

[RavensFanMania]

I see a win this weekend but as I said earlier it's going I be a tightly fought game. We will come away from this game pleased with all three phases of the game.

[FlackAttack]

It all starts with this weekend. There are no moral victories ... certainly not when you are 0-2. A narrow defeat or a blow-out are really no different at this point. 

 

I can't believe the article claiming this is not a must-win. That's absurd. A win and we have hope. A loss and we're on a slippery slope toward a complete meltdown. 

 

It is not going to be easy. It is hard for anyone to see the uneven play we've put on the field in the last 2 games (despite both of them being games we had a shot at winning at the end) and not be concerned. We can only hope that some home cooking will be what the doctor ordered.

 

what article claimed this is not a must-win? whatever author wrote that should be fired. this game is an absolute a must-win. facts dont lie, only FIVE teams in NFL HISTORY have made the playoffs starting 0-3. so that means if we lose this week we have what? a 0.01% chance of making the playoffs?

 

and like you said if its a loss then its a complete organizational meltdown, regardless of the score. people will get fired.

[DomMcRaven]

As a Bengals fan, I honestly think the Ravens will take this game.

On defense:

The Bengals LBs are very susceptible to the pass and run. I think if the Ravens mostly stick to utilizing RBs and TEs, those guys will have monster games.

On Offense:

1. The Bengals O-line is very solid (I'm so glad they've drafted with a strong focus there). That being said,, the Ravens really need to pressure Dalton alot. He's a terrible choker when pressure gets to him. So far this year, Dalton has looked very good when he's had time and great protection.

2. The Bengals can be counted on to make a very bone-headed mistake on offense (they do this every week religiously). Jeremy Hill is a fumbling machine. If the Bengals primarily use him, count on him putting the ball on the turf at least once. Last week, he finally got benched after fumbling. Gio Bernard got fed the rock, and he put up 123 yards in in a shortened game for him (as good as Hill is,,, I really wish Cincy would use Bernard as the primary guy. He's a "home-run" just waiting to be hit, but he has to have the chances).

3. Dalton,, we'll you know. He's going to make a very bone-headed mistake at least once too (He got extreme lucky last week with that pitiful "tuck rule" call that should've been a fumble). The Ravens need to capitalize when Dalton serves then up a "softball".

The Ravens should win this one.

Home Opener + Urgency = Victory

Feed the RBS and TEs.

Capitalize on Dalton/Hill Int and fumbling.

I have read through the comments and decided to chime in because Bengal Billy seemed like he wanted to sugar coat stuff.

This game will be close because you guys are 0-2 and will be in desperation mode. Can you guys pull it off? Of course, can we? Absolutely.

Frozen joe flacco is right you have the better qb and you have the better LB core but other than that I would not trade any other position with you guys and feel like we have the edge in every other area. Even your head coach called us "the most Talented Team in the NFL".

All i can say for sure is if you don't stop the run early and often, if you get no pressure on Dalton you should expect to fall to 0-3.

Also the bengals play best when they keep the lead. If you can force us to play catch up, you could take this one.

Also im not a big Dalton homer but most QBs play bad under pressure. His "bone headed" play is usually because he is rattled. Our O-line is playing lights out.

Anyway Good Luck and lets see who puts the better team on the field Sunday.

Well I for one welcome fans of different teams so long as they're not trolls. So with that said, welcome to our site and good luck you guys as well. I don't really think any here really doubts how much talent you guys have. My biggest thing to watch for the game is our defense. Jimmy Smith vs. AJ Green should be a good one, but the pass rush (like you said) needs to get to Dalton or it'll be more of what happened last year in our home opener against you guys.

[kingzach24]

Finally at home guys!

yea it is but really ravens fans I'm annoyed to see so much giving up comments from some of you guys, if u a die hard ravens fans then you would keep your hopes alive and keep cheering on the ravens. To me, Joe sigh kill me later but I believe Joe can be a H.O.F when he put them up  yes i know he threw picks in the clutch twice but I'm sure cool joe will come out and for the first time in years we will actually see january joe come out in the regular season. Go ravens 

[GrimCoconut]

Jimmy has historically excelled playing against AJ Green back to college. Not that the history necessarily helps us automatically win but it certainly helps.

[Bengal Billy]

I agree that the Ravens will win on Sunday and there are many reasons why they will win. I'm sure John Harbaugh and his staff will take your analytical reasoning to heart. We will win because our team is better than yours and our QB is better than your QB.

Just my predictions as to what I think would happen,, why the animosity for the John Harbaugh comment? Idk. Not trying to troll, man.

Anyway,

I agree your team will win,

I definitely agree your QB is much better,

I don't agree you have the better team.

Cincy's roster is absolutely loaded, except for the QB position. Doesn't matter how stacked the roster is, as long as Dalton is the QB.

Analogy:

It's like having the absolute fastest race-car in the field,, but a 95 year old lady is driving it. It's not gonna matter.

[Bengal Billy]

Well I for one welcome fans of different teams so long as they're not trolls. So with that said, welcome to our site and good luck you guys as well. I don't really think any here really doubts how much talent you guys have. My biggest thing to watch for the game is our defense. Jimmy Smith vs. AJ Green should be a good one, but the pass rush (like you said) needs to get to Dalton or it'll be more of what happened last year in our home opener against you guys.

Thanks McRaven.

I don't ever troll (can't stand that personally). I've actually been a member here for quite a while. I enjoy popping in and checking out what you guys are discussing.

I think it'll be a good game. But, I expect the Bengals to "Bungle" a couple times. And, I expect the Ravens to have a strong sense of urgency for a win, especially in their home opener.

Anyway, good luck this week.

[omar586]

i think historically, the ravens problem has been playing down to their level of competition, so i know they're gonna win this week.

Edited September 24, 2015 by omar586

[GrimCoconut]

Just my predictions as to what I think would happen,, why the animosity for the John Harbaugh comment? Idk. Not trying to troll, man.

Anyway,

I agree your team will win,

I definitely agree your QB is much better,

I don't agree you have the better team.

Cincy's roster is absolutely loaded, except for the QB position. Doesn't matter how stacked the roster is, as long as Dalton is the QB.

Analogy:

It's like having the absolute fastest race-car in the field,, but a 95 year old lady is driving it. It's not gonna matter.

Objectively I think you exaggerate in some areas. I'll tell you where I think each team is stronger, weaker, and equal. You can tell me if and how you disagree.

QB, ST, & LB favors the Ravens.

WR, OL, RB, & edge defenders favor the Bengals.

Interior DL, safety, & TE are in my opinion equal.

Your interior DL is good but I think the Ravens have a damn fine DL as well that played bad last game but is typically very good. Your safeties are good but so the Ravens'. I'd give you TE if I didn't find your depth not as strong as the Ravens' and that's not including Pitta. Gillmore is looking like the real deal at TE for me and this is before this last game. I've liked him since early last year. That's to say it's not a sudden opinion inflated by a good performance against questionable talent.

I would've also had our edge defenders equal if Suggs wasn't hurt but he is. I'd also put our OL as equal to yours if not for our shaky start. You have great depth at T while our depth is strong inside.

[52520Andrew]

Bengals O-line are no joke, I really am anxious to see the D-line get back on track after that disaster in Oakland. 

[Bengal Billy]

Objectively I think you exaggerate in some areas. I'll tell you where I think each team is stronger, weaker, and equal. You can tell me if and how you disagree.

QB, ST, & LB favors the Ravens.

WR, OL, RB, & edge defenders favor the Bengals.

Interior DL, safety, & TE are in my opinion equal.

Your interior DL is good but I think the Ravens have a damn fine DL as well that played bad last game but is typically very good. Your safeties are good but so the Ravens'. I'd give you TE if I didn't find your depth not as strong as the Ravens' and that's not including Pitta. Gillmore is looking like the real deal at TE for me and this is before this last game. I've liked him since early last year. That's to say it's not a sudden opinion inflated by a good performance against questionable talent.

I would've also had our edge defenders equal if Suggs wasn't hurt but he is. I'd also put our OL as equal to yours if not for our shaky start. You have great depth at T while our depth is strong inside.

I think that is pretty much "spot on".

QB - Lol! Yeah that's a definite favor to the Ravens.

LB - Bengals are really weak there,, especially with Burfict out.

TE - Even. Eifert looks like a complete stud. So does Crockett Gilmore (sp?).

WR,OL,RB - Bengals favor (WR by a big margin, RB by a big margin, OL by a slimmer margin).

DL - right now I'd give it to the Bengals, but it's close.

I'll add that I don't think much of the Bengals Defensive backfield. Kirkpatrick gets burned alot. Well, actually all of them do. Really, the Bengals defense is not very good IMO. It all depends in how the DL plays.

I've seen alot of Ravens fans hard on your guys' secondary. But I think they're better than Cincy's.

[PurpleCity5]

I think that is pretty much "spot on".

QB - Lol! Yeah that's a definite favor to the Ravens.

LB - Bengals are really weak there,, especially with Burfict out.

TE - Even. Eifert looks like a complete stud. So does Crockett Gilmore (sp?).

WR,OL,RB - Bengals favor (WR by a big margin, RB by a big margin, OL by a slimmer margin).

DL - right now I'd give it to the Bengals, but it's close.

I'll add that I don't think much of the Bengals Defensive backfield. Kirkpatrick gets burned alot. Well, actually all of them do. Really, the Bengals defense is not very good IMO. It all depends in how the DL plays.

I've seen alot of Ravens fans hard on your guys' secondary. But I think they're better than Cincy's.

Crockett has made strides, but I disagree, no TE besides Gronk has been playing better than Eifert, I mean you know Eifert better than me but I've been watching him lately and he is a stud honestly. He was also going off on us week 1 of last season till he got hurt. 

 

Everything else I agree with. 

[GrimCoconut]

I think that is pretty much "spot on".

QB - Lol! Yeah that's a definite favor to the Ravens.

LB - Bengals are really weak there,, especially with Burfict out.

TE - Even. Eifert looks like a complete stud. So does Crockett Gilmore (sp?).

WR,OL,RB - Bengals favor (WR by a big margin, RB by a big margin, OL by a slimmer margin).

DL - right now I'd give it to the Bengals, but it's close.

I'll add that I don't think much of the Bengals Defensive backfield. Kirkpatrick gets burned alot. Well, actually all of them do. Really, the Bengals defense is not very good IMO. It all depends in how the DL plays.

I've seen alot of Ravens fans hard on your guys' secondary. But I think they're better than Cincy's.

I knew I forgot a position group. Yeah, I actually like the Ravens' CB a bit better than the Bengals. The biggest difference is I think your scheme just makes them better and Smith and Webb have their injury histories so there's that. It's hard for me to objectively give the deciding factor to either team at CB. I do like Jones but he's such a jerk.

[Cin-sational]

On CBs Pacman has been great and kirkpatrick got "burned" because he thought he had safety help over the top. He made a play in the endzone at oakland that was absolutely beautiful. We also drafted a CB in the first round the draft before last, because of depth hes 4th string, and its only because of the depth we have. Tyler Eifert is indeed a stud, I got his jersey the day we drafted him.

I dont know much about your interior D line. I know Geno is a monster and by far our star player the past two weeks. But if you guys do have a great DT then our center is by far our worst O linemen. He did great last week but im not sold on him.

I dont know why Bengal Billy hates Dalton so much, hes great in the regular season. Im just glad we have another receiving threat in marvin jones and eifert. Teams just slid coverage to greens side and took him away which caused andy to throw in good coverage.

I hope we can stop the run, SD did well against us but for some reason abandoned it.

I'll tell you the best thing for me abouth this season so far. Im not afraid, im usually worried about losing or about turnovers or being embarrassed, this year i dont get that feeling at all. I fe

[redrum52]

yea it is but really ravens fans I'm annoyed to see so much giving up comments from some of you guys, if u a die hard ravens fans then you would keep your hopes alive and keep cheering on the ravens. To me, Joe sigh kill me later but I believe Joe can be a H.O.F when he put them up yes i know he threw picks in the clutch twice but I'm sure cool joe will come out and for the first time in years we will actually see january joe come out in the regular season. Go ravens

I wonder how you all would feel to a loss to the Raiders...

[CalvinSmoke]

Does Pees know something that we don't with our corner backs? Does he have them line up off the relievers because they have bad agility? Do our corners have stiffer hips than we thought? Cause our guys still get burned playing 10 yards offoff... Even Jimmy, imagine if they only played 2 yards off..

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

yea it is but really ravens fans I'm annoyed to see so much giving up comments from some of you guys, if u a die hard ravens fans then you would keep your hopes alive and keep cheering on the ravens. To me, Joe sigh kill me later but I believe Joe can be a H.O.F when he put them up yes i know he threw picks in the clutch twice but I'm sure cool joe will come out and for the first time in years we will actually see january joe come out in the regular season. Go ravens

Ravens fans are the NFL equivilant of the spoiled kid for Christmas who didn't get the present they wanted so they whine and whine until something goes their way. Takes one to know one.

Honestly, we overreact to everything. Some of us here are somehow opptimistic(yours truly). Playoffs is within our reach tbh. We always lay one egg a year. It was just ill timed.

These are my boys. If we go 0-16 I'll still wear my purple on Friday. No shame.

We'll be fine.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Ready. Our Oline vs Atikins and Dunlap scares me. But the LBs and other people don't all too much.

That offense has tons of weapons. But I think we're up for the challenge. Jimmy has historically played well vs Green. Sanu and Jones are worrisome though.

Eifert to me is the real problem. We'll stop the run. Not worried about that. But Eifert is an animal.

That said. The secondary doesn't scare me too much and well. Crockett is a pretty good TE as well.

Man if we somehow get Perriman back this should be a good game

[usmccharles]

Ravens fans are the NFL equivilant of the spoiled kid for Christmas who didn't get the present they wanted so they whine and whine until something goes their way. Takes one to know one.

Honestly, we overreact to everything. Some of us here are somehow opptimistic(yours truly). Playoffs is within our reach tbh. We always lay one egg a year. It was just ill timed.

These are my boys. If we go 0-16 I'll still wear my purple on Friday. No shame.

We'll be fine.

Im right there with you buddy.  Am i worried? somewhat.  But all the negative neds should think of it this way: If these two losses were throughout an entire season then no one would blink an eye.  We have been known to have terrible games against teams we should beat. ie Chiefs, Texans, Jags come to mind.  Not having a defined leader is a concern, but this team has been through a lot and i think we can still make the playoffs, even if we lose this weekend, but we will have to show major strides in all categories. 

[Tru11]

Ravens fans are the NFL equivilant of the spoiled kid for Christmas who didn't get the present they wanted so they whine and whine until something goes their way. Takes one to know one.

Honestly, we overreact to everything. Some of us here are somehow opptimistic(yours truly). Playoffs is within our reach tbh. We always lay one egg a year. It was just ill timed.

These are my boys. If we go 0-16 I'll still wear my purple on Friday. No shame.

We'll be fine.

 

may the board bless you with alot of + for this reply