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[Tank 92]

I disagree about it not being on coaching or scheme.  Yes there was some mental lapses by the defense on several occasions but those are going to happen every game.  The things I saw that we could have done differently is jam Amari Cooper off the line more.  He is a very polished route runner for a young player and he made Jimmy look bad on numerous occasions, mainly because he had a free release and had 5-8 yards of free space to make a move.  If we would have blitzed 4 or 5 people more often and had our corners in press man, then Carr would have been forced to get the ball out faster.  This strategy works well most of the time if your rushers are hitting home and yours corners are physical like ours are.  The Jets did this last night to Andrew Luck and he is a smarter and more talented QB then Carr.  Granted the Jets defense is probably more talented, the same concepts could still be used for our team

 

 

Wasn't Jimmy on the line in front of Cooper when he got burned for the TD?  

[Ravens2343]

Wasn't Jimmy on the line in front of Cooper when he got burned for the TD?  

 

Id have to see a replay on that because I do not recall Jimmy getting much of an opportunity to jam receivers.  If he did then that is mistake and I apologize, but nonetheless we need more of that.  Smith will not get beat many times this year so one negative play cannot have us change our strategy

[redrum52]

Wasn't Jimmy on the line in front of Cooper when he got burned for the TD?

If it was Webb, it would be expected, but not Jimmy. Gotta give Amari some credit. Cooper is going to be special. His route running is incredible for a first year guy.

Edited September 22, 2015 by redrum52

[JEEPercreepermd]

Wasn't Jimmy on the line in front of Cooper when he got burned for the TD?

Yup, Cooper got by him. He was in press

[JEEPercreepermd]

I disagree about it not being on coaching or scheme. Yes there was some mental lapses by the defense on several occasions but those are going to happen every game. The things I saw that we could have done differently is jam Amari Cooper off the line more. He is a very polished route runner for a young player and he made Jimmy look bad on numerous occasions, mainly because he had a free release and had 5-8 yards of free space to make a move. If we would have blitzed 4 or 5 people more often and had our corners in press man, then Carr would have been forced to get the ball out faster. This strategy works well most of the time if your rushers are hitting home and yours corners are physical like ours are. The Jets did this last night to Andrew Luck and he is a smarter and more talented QB then Carr. Granted the Jets defense is probably more talented, the same concepts could still be used for our team

Don't get me wrong, I get what you are saying. I'm just pointing out that they did infact do just that and it didn't work. Be it in man, zone, zone blitzes..nothing worked.

[Gordo52]

We really need to be able to run the ball this game. I don't care if we keep getting stuffed, don't give up on it.

Hopefully the Bank gets this team going.

[CalvinSmoke]

upshaws bull rush is pretty weak too.

There are plenty of players that are undrafted who could do the job upshaw is doing. Lets all get real..he's the epitome of whats wrong with our D. We are SLOW..this is a SLOW team. Outside of Cj mosley and Will hill I see 0 speed .

we've been slow for a long time actually. And will Hill is pretty slow too lol

[redrum52]

Don't get me wrong, I get what you are saying. I'm just pointing out that they did infact do just that and it didn't work. Be it in man, zone, zone blitzes..nothing worked.

This. The team blitzed and Carr still had all day to throw. The pass rush must've been slipped edibles in Colorado and Cali. They were non existent. Even if Suggs was there, I still don't think they would've done much.

[redrum52]

we've been slow for a long time actually. And will Hill is pretty slow too lol

Said this too. We don't have people other teams need to game plan for. We need some freaks on both sides of the ball.

[gtalk12]

hate saying "must win" being it's only the 3rd game. but uuhhh, this is a must win

[JEEPercreepermd]

This. The team blitzed and Carr still had all day to throw. The pass rush must've been slipped edibles in Colorado and Cali. They were non existent. Even if Suggs was there, I still don't think they would've done much.

Suggs is great, maybe he would have hurried a throw or two..but would it have been enough to change the game? Doubtful.

[Tank 92]

hate saying "must win" being it's only the 3rd game. but uuhhh, this is a must win

Yes, and no. I agree we need the win just to get on track and move forward. But must wins really don't come until we get to 4 or 5 losses. Of course losing this one makes a playoff berth more unlikely, but 11 - 5, 10 - 6 should get us in the tournament.

And we really need to beat Cincinnati at home. They've had our number for a while.

[Ravens2343]

hate saying "must win" being it's only the 3rd game. but uuhhh, this is a must win

 

We have to win 2/3 games against the AFC North teams in order to have any shot at winning the division.  If we beat Cincy and Cleveland but lose to Pittsburgh I think we are still in decent shape moving forward.  Remember 2013 the Panthers started 0-3 and went on to finish 12-4.  Obviously that is rare but we have the type of team to go on a roll like that.  Keep the faith!

[PurpleCity5]

Remember 2013 the Panthers started 0-3 and went on to finish 12-4. Obviously that is rare but we have the type of team to go on a roll like that. Keep the faith!

That is true, but this defense doesn't compete with the defense Carolina had. They were equally matched up with the Seahawks IMO, very underrated defense that year. And offensively they weren't that strong, but formidable surely. We play in a tougher division. If we drop this next game we'd have to go 11-2 for the remaining of our schedual and thats tough with the difficulty of teams we match up against and its just getting started and dropping a game against Oakland was not a good idea IMO.

This is a must win because of positioning and the mere fact that its a division game, Id play this game as if it were a playoff game.

Edited September 22, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[PurpleCity5]

Yes, and no. I agree we need the win just to get on track and move forward. But must wins really don't come until we get to 4 or 5 losses. Of course losing this one makes a playoff berth more unlikely, but 11 - 5, 10 - 6 should get us in the tournament.

And we really need to beat Cincinnati at home. They've had our number for a while.

I don't think 10-6 can get us into the playoffs this year honestly. You already heard Joe say he won't be satisfied with 10 wins, I honestly think 11 will get us in but 10? We barely made it last year with 10 and the AFC is stacked up right now. Jets and Cheifs are talented and teams I believe can get to 10. Same with San Diego.

[ashoganesyan]

All this negativity! We were one play away of beating the Broncos who are a way better team than the Bangals!! Relax people, this team has what it takes, they just gotta get the passion back and their veterans like SSS need to be more clutch. We will be fine!

[rmcjacket23]

Yes, and no. I agree we need the win just to get on track and move forward. But must wins really don't come until we get to 4 or 5 losses. Of course losing this one makes a playoff berth more unlikely, but 11 - 5, 10 - 6 should get us in the tournament.

And we really need to beat Cincinnati at home. They've had our number for a while.

Historically, its incredibly unlikely...

 

I believe 1998 was the last time a team started 0-3 and made the playoffs. I believe there's only been one team in history that started 0-4 and made the playoffs, so that's basically impossible.

 

Given the landscape of the AFC, starting 0-3 AND being 3.5 games behind the division leader is essentially an insurmountable mountain to be climbed.

[Tank 92]

I don't think 10-6 can get us into the playoffs this year honestly. You already heard Joe say he won't be satisfied with 10 wins, I honestly think 11 will get us in but 10? We barely made it last year with 10 and the AFC is stacked up right now. Jets and Cheifs are talented and teams I believe can get to 10. Same with San Diego.

Maybe not, but lots will happen between now and December. Hopefully the chips fall our way!

[ashoganesyan]

No thanks. We need get better fast. If we need to cut somebody to wake our players up(trestman arrinton webb) then do it!

Arrinton should be cut, everything I have seen from his so far this year is terrible, even before he cost us the game by not staying with a rookie practice squad Raider who caught the game winner. He is slow, and looks confused out there, they should definitely give someone else on that team a try ahead of him.

[Militant X 1]

You could be right and all the evidence supports your post but I do remember you saying this last year as well I'm pretty sure

 

I sure did!  And, because I'm a man of my word I stood by it last year as I will again this year!

[Cillmatic]

Arrinton should be cut, everything I have seen from his so far this year is terrible, even before he cost us the game by not staying with a rookie practice squad Raider who caught the game winner. He is slow, and looks confused out there, they should definitely give someone else on that team a try ahead of him.

I think it's the system, in New England he sucked at first, then Pees was fired, he becomes a top Slot corner. Edited September 22, 2015 by Cillmatic

[Drew P]

Arrinton should be cut, everything I have seen from his so far this year is terrible, even before he cost us the game by not staying with a rookie practice squad Raider who caught the game winner. He is slow, and looks confused out there, they should definitely give someone else on that team a try ahead of him.

 

And replaced with whom Dom Franks? He looked okay bolting at Manning

[Dilferian]

Cincy will totally destroy us, their defense is good. 

 

I'm thinking around the lines of 27-10.

[codizzle]

I sure did! And, because I'm a man of my word I stood by it last year as I will again this year!

I hear ya.. Want calling you out like that..

Just bringing up the point to show anything can happen

Personally, I'll think we'll be alright as long as offense can find some consistency in the running game and as long as the defense can find a leader that will bring the intensity

The talent is there

[polynesian15]

Yes, and no. I agree we need the win just to get on track and move forward. But must wins really don't come until we get to 4 or 5 losses. Of course losing this one makes a playoff berth more unlikely, but 11 - 5, 10 - 6 should get us in the tournament.

And we really need to beat Cincinnati at home. They've had our number for a while.

Sure, but the likeliness of going 0-5/6 and then winning 10-11 straight games is close to zero. We need wins now, not only for confidence purposes but also to have a "loss buffer" for the rest of the season.

Realistically we probably should have been 1-1 by now, so we're only one behind that. Sweeping the division during the next three weeks would nullify the early season blunders imo. We need to at least be 2-3 after Cleveland.

If we're 1-4 in three weeks time... 

[polynesian15]

I hear ya.. Want calling you out like that..

Just bringing up the point to show anything can happen

Personally, I'll think we'll be alright as long as offense can find some consistency in the running game and as long as the defense can find a leader that will bring the intensity

The talent is there

Finding a defensive leader is all good, but we NEED pass rush! If not through personel then through schemes, Pees needs to be more intense than anyone else on the defense. He looked like he was about to fall asleep in the pressbox against Oakland - sack up Dean!

[Militant X 1]

I hear ya.. Want calling you out like that..

Just bringing up the point to show anything can happen

Personally, I'll think we'll be alright as long as offense can find some consistency in the running game and as long as the defense can find a leader that will bring the intensity

The talent is there

 

I agree with all of this! 

 

My issue is the inconsistency which our boys seem to exhibit every season.  Personally, what urks me is when I constantly go to bat for and in defense of our Ravens with other fans and people that critique the Ravens for the said inconsistencies.  It's painful when our boys lose games like Sunday which only validates these clowns but further pisses me off.  For once, I'd love to see our boys just come out swinging, crisp and on point on both sides of the ball to let the league know that we are the team to beat!

[codizzle]

Finding a defensive leader is all good, but we NEED pass rush! If not through personel then through schemes, Pees needs to be more intense than anyone else on the defense. He looked like he was about to fall asleep in the pressbox against Oakland - sack up Dean!

Most of our big problems on Sunday were from communication mishaps..

I was fully expecting the lack of pass rush.. Adjusting to the loss of sizzle wasn't gonna be a simple task at all

[jazz1988]

I think it's the system, in New England he sucked at first, then Pees was fired, he becomes a top Slot corner.

 

The last time Dean Pees was the defensive coordinator for The Patriots was in  2009 which was technically  Arrington rookie season.  Arrington didn't start for  The Patriots until 2010 which was when Pees was no longer their defensive coordinator and  I think that was the same year when their secondary was considered one of the worst secondaries in the league at that time.

 

 

It's kind of hard to say Dean Pees made Arrington suck at first when he actually didn't start at all until 2010 .

[Gtown Purple]

hard to feel confident about this one.