WR Trade

[flynismo]

Lions would be laughing at us over such a deal, they would easily be willing to throw Ansah in there as well

Don't be ridiculous. Clearly we would have to include Elam to make that happen!

[gabefergy]

OK....You've all convinced me........I'm going to the film room.

 

I am going to review the Bronco game, as painful as that may be.  When I get back tomorrow, I'll do so with an addendum.

 

 

 

I'm off to the film room, but I don't believe Webby cost us that Bronco game in any manner. We shall see.

 

Perriman was a good draft pick even on his stretch the field function. He'll be fine when its time, but until then we do have a guy that can stretch the field on different planes.

 

Will get back on that tomorrow.

Not this game, but he looked very poor and could be a major liability in the future. OL cost us the game in Denver and if you want to get specific, Joe's INT cost us the game.

[PurpleCity5]

I wonder how injuries in Camp/Off-season effected the sync of the OL? I mean guys there have been banged up consistently. 

[Filmstudy]

If the team really needs a field stretcher right now, Waller is the obvious choice.  He's got the size to go up for the football and he'll be a flag-drawing machine on deep balls.  I hope they can find out if he'll put his mid section at risk during the Oakland game, because they will really want him for Pittsburgh's dwarf secondary.

 

But looking backwards, there simply wasn't time for Flacco to make such throws on Sunday.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Not happening for many reasons.

1. Too expensive.

2. We already have too many WRs. Why in gods name would we want more.

3. Not any appealing names on the market

[Maryland]

This is when I think fantasy football and Madden trick fans into thinking GMs can just wheel and deal for what they need when they need it.

 

I wonder if the Giants board was filled with OBJ bust proclamations and trade scenarios 

[polynesian15]

Looking at the replay..I thought Yanda struggled also. Nobody @oline had any sort of sync/flow to them. One guy fails an assignment, then another guy(screws up)the very next play. They weren't on the same page.

Most surprisingly, it was harder to watch the right side(Yanda &Wagner) then the left. I thought Hurst and KO handled the job better than the right.

So what's up?

They need more time to gel due to few preseason snaps? Last year's performance was a fluke? Is Kubiak's absence is to blame?

What's the dealio?

[JEEPercreepermd]

Another thing to remember, Kubiaks Offensive line out there in Denver wasn't exactly pushing anyone around last week.

The problem was simple, they have two excellent pass rushers in Miller and Ware, our tackles couldn't hold up. They got beat plain and simple, it wasn't scheme or coaching.

Actually, Hurst seemed to hold up at least a little better in the 2nd half than in the 1st, so you can attribute that to some coaching adjustments more than anything.

They were also sending more guys than we could block on running situations..

I'm no Offensive guru here, but if I'm Trestman, I wouldnt have called it much differently, like many people said..we had receivers getting open, but no time to get the ball out.

Here's another thing that I saw after re-watching the game..Forsett actually made a few mistakes as far as not getting into some holes that were actually there on a few plays..

Overall, Coaching I'd say was decent on offense. If I'm Trestman, I wouldn't have done much different..maybe try a few more bootlegs, and quick tosses or sweeps just to give those OLB's something else to think about, and get them running, maybe they get a little slower late in the game and you get that extra second to plant your feet and drive the ball, or find that open receiver , they were just both playing the quarterback and reacting to the run...hence why I prayed for Joe's safety on play action.

[TDubbs]

These trades happen in the offseason, rarely during the season. However it seems for the 5th year in a row Brandon Marshall got traded for scraps and is dominating, as usual. Sometimes I wish we'd value later picks less and make bold moves like this .. considering they got him for a 5th and we cut our 5th rounder. Anyways ... we're going to have to patiently wait for Perriman to get on the field and make a play. 

Edited September 17, 2015 by TDubbs

[Edgar]

Still can't get over that And how he for some reason couldn't see how that game was playing out. Can't believe this stuff is seemingly non-intuitive for him seven years in.

[Ravens2343]

These trades happen in the offseason, rarely during the season. However it seems for the 5th year in a row Brandon Marshall got traded for scraps and is dominating, as usual. Sometimes I wish we'd value later picks less and make bold moves like this .. considering they got him for a 5th and we cut our 5th rounder. Anyways ... we're going to have to patiently wait for Perriman to get on the field and make a play. 

 

I agree I wish sometimes we would make bolder moves and use our later picks for that.  In the case of Marshall though, his salary was way to high we could not fit him under the cap on our team.  A lot of these guys who get traded for low picks have a high salary and a team like the Jets who had a ton of cap room are the only ones who can afford him.

[Tru11]

These trades happen in the offseason, rarely during the season. However it seems for the 5th year in a row Brandon Marshall got traded for scraps and is dominating, as usual. Sometimes I wish we'd value later picks less and make bold moves like this .. considering they got him for a 5th and we cut our 5th rounder. Anyways ... we're going to have to patiently wait for Perriman to get on the field and make a play. 

 

this thing called a salary cap pretty much limits the things a GM can pull off with out turning the entire team upside down...

[rmcjacket23]

Not trying to get OT, but I think the need is at OLB and that was before Suggs went down.  We're very thin at the position.  I think Melvin will develop well and with him we have solid depth.  If Jimmy goes down, we're not trading or signing, I think. Just moving guys up.  It also wouldn't surprise me if we went RB or WR.

Way too early to project this, but based on what I've seen so far AND the fact that SSS is retiring, I won't be surprised if the FO actually went after a respectably high-priced FA WR this offseason, or at the very least, made a Boldin-like trade of some kind.

 

Can't see any scenario where we take a WR in the first round in back to back years, and I'm guessing we aren't exactly comfortable at the moment with a starting receiving core featuring Perriman and Aiken.

 

Things can change of course, just my preliminary assessment. 

[TDubbs]

this thing called a salary cap pretty much limits the things a GM can pull off with out turning the entire team upside down...

 

Thats why I said these trades happen in the offseason when you can maneuver within the salary cap  ... Anyways, the point remains that we have no option remaining but to wait on BP to hit the field. 

Edited September 17, 2015 by TDubbs

[AsianRice]

Right now, I pray for our 0-line get back to their 2014 form......That's all I care about for the whole offense woes...

Edited September 17, 2015 by AsianRice

[PurpleCity5]

Way too early to project this, but based on what I've seen so far AND the fact that SSS is retiring, I won't be surprised if the FO actually went after a respectably high-priced FA WR this offseason, or at the very least, made a Boldin-like trade of some kind.

Can't see any scenario where we take a WR in the first round in back to back years, and I'm guessing we aren't exactly comfortable at the moment with a starting receiving core featuring Perriman and Aiken.

Things can change of course, just my preliminary assessment.

I agree, I think a good WR in open market is more likely than using a 1st or maybe 2nd round pick on a WR. We have some future needs on defense, specifically OLB in the future and CB so I don't see how we draft a WR round 1.

[Tru11]

Thats why I said these trades happen in the offseason when you can maneuver within the salary cap  ... Anyways, the point remains that we have no option remaining but to wait on BP to hit the field. 

 

the salary cap still counts in the offseason lol.

 

it does not get turned off so teams can do what they like...

 

Marshall was not an option unless he would take a massive pay cut or we would cut a bunch of players.

 

These trades happens to teams that have cap space...

[rmcjacket23]

the salary cap still counts in the offseason lol.

 

it does not get turned off so teams can do what they like...

 

Marshall was not an option unless he would take a massive pay cut or we would cut a bunch of players.

 

These trades happens to teams that have cap space...

The difference though is that in the offseason you are still forming your roster. Once September happens, its mostly set and you're just adjusting for injuries.

 

If we were to trade for a player that costs a lot right now, we'd still have to cut players, just like we probably would in the offseason. The difference, though, is that finding cheap, quality replacements for the players we cut is significantly easier in the summer than it is in the Fall.

[gabefergy]

The difference though is that in the offseason you are still forming your roster. Once September happens, its mostly set and you're just adjusting for injuries.

 

If we were to trade for a player that costs a lot right now, we'd still have to cut players, just like we probably would in the offseason. The difference, though, is that finding cheap, quality replacements for the players we cut is significantly easier in the summer than it is in the Fall.

Well, teams can normally make it work by converting the player's base salary to bonus. This happened for instance when the Jaguars traded us Monroe. If both teams are motivated, they can make it work without much hassle. If the player is not a FA the following season, the cap charge can obviously become more of a factor for future seasons.

[jazz1988]

Way too early to project this, but based on what I've seen so far AND the fact that SSS is retiring, I won't be surprised if the FO actually went after a respectably high-priced FA WR this offseason, or at the very least, made a Boldin-like trade of some kind.

 

Can't see any scenario where we take a WR in the first round in back to back years, and I'm guessing we aren't exactly comfortable at the moment with a starting receiving core featuring Perriman and Aiken.

 

Things can change of course, just my preliminary assessment. 

 

Most of the receivers that will be free agents next year will be a bunch of number 2 receivers and most them really don't stand out. I don't expect  Alshon Jeffery to hit the free agent market and like you said anything can change. It's still pretty  early in the season and it's quite possible  the receivers The Ravens already have might be better than most fan think or the receivers i'm looking at whom are due to be free agents next year may turn out to have a better season than I thought.

[January J]

I think by the end of the season many ppl are going to be pleasantly surprised with what we already have on the roster.

[rmcjacket23]

Most of the receivers that will be free agents next year will be a bunch of number 2 receivers and most them really don't stand out. I don't expect  Alshon Jeffery to hit the free agent market and like you said anything can change. It's still pretty  early in the season and it's quite possible  the receivers The Ravens already have might be better than most fan think or the receivers i'm looking at whom are due to be free agents next year may turn out to have a better season than I thought.

Well, #2's on most teams. That's the kind of player I would expect us to sign, aka a Boldin-like guy (not necessarily with the same skill set, but an older veteran who comes relatively cheap).

 

I wouldn't expect us to pay top dollar for guys like Jeffery or anybody like that. 

[redrum52]

Way too early to project this, but based on what I've seen so far AND the fact that SSS is retiring, I won't be surprised if the FO actually went after a respectably high-priced FA WR this offseason, or at the very least, made a Boldin-like trade of some kind.

 

Can't see any scenario where we take a WR in the first round in back to back years, and I'm guessing we aren't exactly comfortable at the moment with a starting receiving core featuring Perriman and Aiken.

 

Things can change of course, just my preliminary assessment. 

Pursuing a WR, either through FA or trade, makes a lot more sense.  I would prefer if the team took that approach when trying to improve the positiion, considering their track record.

[HoldingCall]

Not sure why you copied me. The oline clearly got outplayed severely. It's just funny how quickly opinions are drastically changed. A few weeks ago we should trade some of our wr we have so much depth now let's go trade for someone.

I agreed with your post, that's all. 

[Underdogsontop!]

I wouldn't panic just yet. Our O line didn't play too great, Flacco had a rough outing with our bookends struggling to block Ware and Miller. Also IMO Trestman could have called better plays on some of the situations in this past game. I don't think we had much quick passes or 3 step drops to slow down the blitz. It was a tough game to lose, but I think a lot was learned. I really hope Perriman gets out there soon and is as good as advertised. Hope he lights it up with those vertical routes. I also hope our offense improves against the Raiders.

[BLoRavensJoe]

I'm in Buffalo, so saw a lot of Bills camp reports. Ravens should take a look at Andre Davis, most thought he was going to crack the Bills roster, and I believe he is a FA... Wrong time of year to be looking for a playmaker, and I don't think any teams are looking to get rid of any. Finding a "diamond in the rough" is likely the only real shot... Maybe give a Reggie Wayne a call.

[Tru11]

The difference though is that in the offseason you are still forming your roster. Once September happens, its mostly set and you're just adjusting for injuries.

 

If we were to trade for a player that costs a lot right now, we'd still have to cut players, just like we probably would in the offseason. The difference, though, is that finding cheap, quality replacements for the players we cut is significantly easier in the summer than it is in the Fall.

 

True but the cap does not get turned off for the offseason lol.

 

you can make trades that put you over the roster limit but you cant make trades or offer contracts that put you over the salary cap.

 

i firmly believe our FO has a long term vision in which they already planned on what to when the offseason comes and how every move they make will affect years still to come.

 

I dont see anyway we would have been able to take on Marshall 9 mil cap hit in the offseason.

 

We traded away ngata in need of cap space lol

 

Im pretty sure they put more value in ngata then marshall.

 

Trades for big time players like marshall on big contracts only happen when its to a team with cap space.

 

Ravens simply dont have the cap space to make such moves wether its off season , pre season or regular season.

thats the price for being succesfull.

[usmccharles]

Not sure if I said this before, but I think Roddy white ends up here, just a typical Ravens signing. Just a hunch. I can't think of any other veteran wrs we could go after. Sure would be nice if our wrs developed and we didn't to sign one next year....

[jimmypowder]

At best Smith is a no 2

The rest are 4's or higher . I don't think we even have a 3 . Not kidding .

Perriman, well who knows . Could be a no 1 . Hopefully we will be graced

By his presence soon .

[Tank 92]

Right now, I pray for our 0-line get back to their 2014 form......That's all I care about for the whole offense woes...

  

Yep. It all starts at the core. They were overwhelmed in Denver and have nowhere to go but up!

I think by the end of the season many ppl are going to be pleasantly surprised with what we already have on the roster.

This.......Guessing we have at least one or two young WRs given time will shine.