[News] Eisenberg: New Era Begins With Ravens Iconic Guard Gone

[VeiledPsychosis]

Having no Ngata, no Reed, no Lewis, and no Suggs feels really weird

[Purple Dawg 96]

The Defense performed very well w/o Ray Ray and Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeed and will do so w/o Sizzle! This team is the "TRUE" meaning of "THE NEXT MAN UP"!

Hey Siz, you can watch the game with me Big Guy! Get well soon!

[sami]

It's time Harbs and Trestman open up the playbook and let Joe lead this team! Our play against Denver was of the same cloth we've seen over the past 7 seasons and 5 different coordinators. If I were to be a betting man, there seems to be 2 playbooks - one that is vanilla and does just enough to keep you in games and fight for the win and the 2nd gets dusted off in the playoffs and the whoop butt commences. I get it, Harbs never likes showing his hand, who does really? But there comes a time when we all must do things we don't like doing and this is one of them, Flacco MUST BE GIVEN THE REIGNS of this offense and let him lead this team. With a pillar of our defense gone we will rely on our offense more this season and it's time for Joe to put this team on his back and get it done!! #RavensNation stand strong!!!

maybe they HAVE opened it up and Flacco just keeps running the same ones he likes. Hes the only constant in your equation. Joe has put the team on his back and this week he dropped them. He had several weak throws that would have made the difference.

[LunarRover]

Get your Chins up people. This team will never rely on one man to hold the Defensive unit in place. People said that when Ray Lewis went down yrs ago, when Suggs went down o couple yrs ago, and again when Ngata went down. Everyone preaches "Next Man Up" like its just sounds cool....but that is exactly what it means in Baltimore. We are built and equipped to handle this setback, even if permanent. Upshaw can get back to his native style of PRushing and Z.Smith will be put on the fast track of doing the same...Murdering Qbs in the backfield. Like Harbs said Sunday. We'll Let the elders wrap their wings around these youngsters and coach em up... its business as usual...Division & Playoff bound.

[Ravensfolyfe]

I'm ready to see how these fellas handle a whole season. Of course injurie free.

[Smoke0121]

The issue seems to be that most of us are so ties to the glory days of our defense that we are constantly trying to hold on to any reminisce of it. We look at "next man up" like someone is going to step in long enough until our old veterans return. In reality, we have a whole new group of talent who's going to create their own identity, which may look NOTHING like our early 2000's defense. It used to be a new guy here and there, but for the first time in a while, the majority of our defense is young and talented. Just wait until they find their identity...no one is going to move the ball on them...just like we like it in Baltimore.

[curtis0360]

I don't know about ray, but from what I saw. Our defense is stacked, it looked scary. Sorry ray I gotta disagree. Even after sizzle left we still was stifling them.

[Smoke0121]

I don't know about ray, but from what I saw. Our defense is stacked, it looked scary. Sorry ray I gotta disagree. Even after sizzle left we still was stifling them.

Even the great Ray Lewis is subject to holding on to the past.  I think his comments were based on the fact that Suggs is one on the last players remaining from HIS defense.  But its not his defense anymore and he's watching it evolve just like the rest of us.

[mearzunkies]

This D is stacked. NO questions about it. We just have the one Hybrid spot to filll. Heck even a solid D End woould be a big help!

Edited September 15, 2015 by mearzunkies

[HoldingCall]

When a Corner leads the team in tackles that is a cause for concern, the reason why is because he's targeted more than anyone on the field. A corner should never lead his team in tackles.

I see no need for concern with J Smith other than staying healthy. It is unusual for a corner to lead in tackles but look who Peyton was throwing to. Still, J Smith did a good job in coverage and is currently our best CB.

[PalmBayRaven]

I think we will surprise people. This is someone's chance to be a star and shine their light on the stage. Sometimes all you need is that one break. Who will rise to the occasion? L'Darius Smith? Young, hungry and feeling slighted from the draft now is your time. Courtney Upshaw? Stay tuned.........

[RavensBlood2Bone5220]

I thought our defense played great. You consider the last time we played the Broncos; Peyton threw 7 touchdowns on us and Julius Thomas was truck driving over Michael Huff. To hold that offense with Thomas and Sanders to field goals, held them under 300 yards and multiple sacks. That's a strong defensive performance

[RavenzOz]

Oakland will be a testing ground for Z. Smith and whether or not the Ravens bring in a vet. I hope Smith makes a strong case for us to simply move forward with what we already have.

 

Amen to that.  If this team does one thing well, it's bringing in Smiths who produce :-)

[RavenzOz]

Mosley is going to have a great career if he stays healthy.

 

Mosley is going to Canton, I'd stake my house on it.

[Mick0311]

This looks like an article written by a person that has gotten the news already that Suggs is done. This wreaks of the classic drip, drip, drip, let them down easy. I hope I'm wrong.

[Zeus]

You forgot to add Cundiff to that bust list

[leroy31]

When a Corner leads the team in tackles that is a cause for concern, the reason why is because he's targeted more than anyone on the field. A corner should never lead his team in tackles.

Emmanuel Sanders caught alot of balls and made a few first downs but he put up something like 65 yards on 8 catches so dont be worried if a DB is making tackles.

[Dorota]

The issue seems to be that most of us are so ties to the glory days of our defense that we are constantly trying to hold on to any reminisce of it. We look at "next man up" like someone is going to step in long enough until our old veterans return. In reality, we have a whole new group of talent who's going to create their own identity, which may look NOTHING like our early 2000's defense. It used to be a new guy here and there, but for the first time in a while, the majority of our defense is young and talented. Just wait until they find their identity...no one is going to move the ball on them...just like we like it in Baltimore.

It's natural to cling onto what you know and love and that's what plenty people are doing with the iconic Ravens defense. It's sentimental, it's a heartbreak, it's a change coming faster than people can handle and Sizzle came as a shock.

However, Ozzie builds through the draft. He made sure that the guys to take up the work are already there. We aren't yet as familiar with the faces and the stories that go behind them, the guys don't have a history of victories, because they haven't been here long enough to build it, but if anything, this year will be movie material How a group of young guys came together to bring back the glory days I trust in our new cornerstones. C. J. Mosley, Brandon Williams, Jimmy Smith... we still look good.

[bozo]

raven will have a good year,, around 6-10.

[cobrajet]

I give high grades to Jimmy Smith, Hill, Brandon Williams, and Mosely for their performance on Sunday. Mosely was Hill were really flying.

[Asmodeus71]

Sorry John, I think J Smith had a serviceable game helped out by the pick 6 however he was beat many times throughout the game playing too far off the receiver. His size is supposed to let him play the bump game and redirect receivers and he did not do that opting to make sure he did not get burnt deep and giving up everything underneath. The ONLY exception was when he jumped the route for the pick 6 which was a Huge play but NO I did not see a Pro Bowl Caliber Corner in Jimmy, not yet anyway!

 

 

When a Corner leads the team in tackles that is a cause for concern, the reason why is because he's targeted more than anyone on the field. A corner should never lead his team in tackles.

Both of you can be answered in one answer. This is only after one game against a future Hall of Fame QB. You allowed one of the best QBs to ever play the game 24 completions out of 40 attempts, 60% completion rate but only a total of 175 yards. There two top receivers averaged under 9 yards per completion. Also they had no offensive TDs. The Ravens play a lot of zone so DBs also get tackles in the run game with DB run blitzes putting them in box to get tackles usually handled by LBs. 

A little more perspective P. Manning career is a 65% completion ration, averages 271.9 yards a game, 530 TD to 235 INTs in 257 games. So he averages over 2 TDs a game and almost 2 to 1 on TDs to INTs, yet in this game threw no TDs and one INT. None of this is because of a change in offense either because honestly little of Kubiak's run first happened as Manning career average is 35.4 pass attempts per game and in this game he had 40.

This just holds in with what Pees has done since he was DC against teams with heavy pass, possible big play game styles in playing a bend but not break defense. It worked, unfortunately their defense also worked against our offense. The dropped ball by Smith, the ball being slapped out at the end turning into an INT, the bad throw from Flacco on the first INT, losing your LT at the beginning of the game against one of the best blitzing teams in the game all add up to this game not being as bad of a "L" as it feels. The "W" would have been nice but we shutdown a potential great offense and sadly got shutdown by a great defense in a game that went down to the last few plays of the game. A DB leading in tackles is nothing to worry about in a game that all of these things plus they did 25 rushes to 44 pass plays counting sacks. The Ravens were 23 rushes to 34 pass plays in comparison. 

I know this one answer was a long one but was just trying to show defensively there was little to complain about in this game on either team. When a P. Manning ran team only scores FGs you are doing something right.

Oh, also "the reason why is because he's targeted more than anyone on the field", this is often true of a CB who is coming back from an injury that ended the previous year.

Edited September 16, 2015 by Asmodeus71

[ibleedpurpleandblack]

Will Hill III is a monster!!

Williams is force and CJ Mosley is going to be another great one!!

[MTRavensFan]

When a Corner leads the team in tackles that is a cause for concern, the reason why is because he's targeted more than anyone on the field. A corner should never lead his team in tackles.

The short answer is Peyton threw a lot of completions towards the sidelines for a gain of 2 - 3 yds, even threw a couple for negative yardage. Those tackles were made by corners.

As opposed to last year when our DBs couldn't tackle to save their lives. In which case it's a very good thing.

[fusuymada]

Suggs didn't play that game by himself and the defense was dominating. Whether you believe Manning can throw or not, CJ Anderson has no trouble running, except against the Ravens. Williams was a beast, Mosely is back to pro bowl form and what more can you ask of Jimmy Smith. This defense will be fine, the offense, I'm not so sure about. Yes Denver was tough, but we should have done more to protect Joe early cause looking back at the coachs tape on Game Pass, we had open receivers, but by the third series of the first quarter, Flacco was on his heels and looking to run before anyone got close to him. He was scared. Hopefully, we will do more to protect Joe with some Max protect schemes or other ways to keep him upright. Once he gets scared after taking a couple hits, Flacco looks to bury his head in the sand and I know on one occasion Marlon Brown was streaking down the field with no one near him and Flacco missed Aiken across the middle and he was covered tight. On another occasion Brown was underneath and wide open and Flacco stood and stood and took a sack. Our receivers had separation more than not, but Joe was afraid of a blind side hit and was fidgeting in the pocket and not going through his reads. C'mon QB whisperer, lets see some of that genius we keep hearing about because those play calls last week were vanilla at best.

Edited September 16, 2015 by fusuymada

[WordProphet]

Right now this ship is taking on water, lets see if we can fix the leaks and make a run at the Superbowl!!!

[Prino61]

We will be fine. First time I disagree with Ray Lewis. Time for the youth to stand up and take over. We have drafted great on defense and we have plenty that can take the lead from the old guard and keep us dominate for the next generation

i agree with you 100% but i cant help but think Ray said that to motivate the youngsters

[Prino61]

we will be throwing Carl Davis name up there very soon

[baltraven2014]

It's the same ole Ravens! Indecisiveness on the offensive side of the ball. Without having one of the best defensive teams in the league all these years, Flacco would never have the playoff record that he has. In my opinion, Joe remains  to be a goofy kind of guy. My heart sunk when we let Tyrod go, and now Joe's backup is an even more disturbing bum. I don't understand Harbaugh's thinking, then again I do... smh!!

Edited September 16, 2015 by baltraven2014

[Ravensfansince03]

It's usually a top performer and one who is mostly present that leads, Webb has been missing in action too often. It could be Jimmy Smith (he spoke on the podium), D Smith, or even CJ Mosely.

A vocal leader not only performs but can actually get guys motivated by the way they talk. I said Webb because he has fire when he talks on the field plus he has the most experience. Jimmy is superb but he even said he is not really a vocal leader. And Daryl Smith is a great tackler but lets face it, he's not great with words lol. And CJ Mosley doesn't talk much. All those guys play hard, Webb would be the guy to keep them fired up.

Edited September 16, 2015 by Ravensfansince03

[January J]

Suggs didn't play that game by himself and the defense was dominating. Whether you believe Manning can throw or not, CJ Anderson has no trouble running, except against the Ravens. Williams was a beast, Mosely is back to pro bowl form and what more can you ask of Jimmy Smith. This defense will be fine, the offense, I'm not so sure about. Yes Denver was tough, but we should have done more to protect Joe early cause looking back at the coachs tape on Game Pass, we had open receivers, but by the third series of the first quarter, Flacco was on his heels and looking to run before anyone got close to him. He was scared. Hopefully, we will do more to protect Joe with some Max protect schemes or other ways to keep him upright. Once he gets scared after taking a couple hits, Flacco looks to bury his head in the sand and I know on one occasion Marlon Brown was streaking down the field with no one near him and Flacco missed Aiken across the middle and he was covered tight. On another occasion Brown was underneath and wide open and Flacco stood and stood and took a sack. Our receivers had separation more than not, but Joe was afraid of a blind side hit and was fidgeting in the pocket and not going through his reads. C'mon QB whisperer, lets see some of that genius we keep hearing about because those play calls last week were vanilla at best.

thats exactly the way i saw it as well. was really hoping they would bring in an extra tight end or rb to help block his back side, if anything just to make him feel more comfortable. he was getting so much pressure from the backside on the end that you could tell he was almost grimacing and expecting a hit on every single play. he wasnt able to go through his reads .

 

anyway, looking at the scope of things around the afc i think we are gonna have to win atleast 11 games to make the playoffs this year. 10 might just not do it this year.