Trestman's Offense: Good, Bad, or Otherwise?

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

Maybe its too early to tell, but my impression of the new look offense, is that if Forsett goes down, we wont know what to do. Its pretty obvious that Trestman focuses the majority of plays to the backs, so far, thus is predictable, so far.

The biggest defecit, is that he doesnt play call to get everybody involved, so that when you really need them down the stretch, are they ready for the ball?

I would like to see more routes, better scheming for the tight ends, creativity on offense, not RB catch, RB run, 85% of the time. Lets use everybody, and keep defenses off balance. Thoughts?

[The Mom Gene]

It's Week 1

[757RavensFan]

Too early for me to evaluate the offense in week 1 vs a VERY good defense coached by our ex OC. 

 

I will say this, I don't understand during the last drive, the back to back passes to the RBs at the line of scrimmage when we needed 10 yards for the 1st down. 

[redrum52]

Can't evaluate with the pressure they got. WR worries me though.

[A Fish Called Yanda]

Maybe its too early to tell,

 

Should have just stopped there.

 

We were playing possibly the best defense in the entire NFL.  Next week, we're playing against one of the worst.  Even if we score 40 points next week we're not going to know any more about the efficiency of our offense.  Will take until at least week 3 or 4 to figure anything out.

[Militant X 1]

Our offensive personnel doesn't execute plays consistently or well whatsoever imo.

[PurpleCity5]

Too early to evaluate. Kub's offense was lightning week one last season either. 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

We played an elite defense and our top speed option is hurt. Way too early to tell.

[GrimCoconut]

I'm more concerned by his inability to notice what worked and what didn't. Joe and the offense played better when he was in the shotgun. I prefer under center but if shotgun works then do that.

[Static]

The Shotgun lets Joe See the blitz , Gives him Space from the LoS and puts the RB in a better position to be a pass blocker.

 

 

But it looks like another year of never using the shotgun. I'm pretty sure we have the lowest % of shotgun plays run in the league.

[Drew P]

Did Waller get any snaps?

 

It looked like shades of Cam go with the same WR corp on each and every play based on the preseason rankings.

[PeRK82]

Hate to say it but it felt like i was watching CAM CAmeron but worse. Really didnt see any adjustments in a timely matter.

[PeRK82]

The Shotgun lets Joe See the blitz , Gives him Space from the LoS and puts the RB in a better position to be a pass blocker.

 

 

But it looks like another year of never using the shotgun. I'm pretty sure we have the lowest % of shotgun plays run in the league.

Agreed, and im SOOOOOOO sick of it because Flacco has said countless times that he is most comfortable in the shotgun.

[hawkprey]

Agreed, and im SOOOOOOO sick of it because Flacco has said countless times that he is most comfortable in the shotgun.

Every QB is, you do it to help your run game.

[ratedr]

Cutler was in the shotgun last year a lot. And Kubiak had Peyton in the shotgun all day yesterday. You have to wonder if this is an organizational thing, because it doesn't change regardless of the OC.

[GrimCoconut]

Every QB is, you do it to help your run game.

Yeah, this is why I said I prefer under center but you have to do what works. The run game was infective all day unless Allen was in there and even he had his share of okay runs.

[rmcjacket23]

We'll definitely get a better feel this week. Oakland, outside of a couple quality pass rushers, is generally pretty soft on defense, particularly in the run game. 

 

If there's struggles in Oakland, then long-term problems could be an issue. But its hard to judge after one game. I expected the offense to struggle, and they did. I didn't expect them to struggle that much, but could be a combination of a lot of things, including an exceptional defense on the other side of the ball.

 

No reason to to lose our minds yet, but a poor performance in Oakland may send up plenty of red flags. While having Perriman out is certainly a detriment to our offense, I don't think we should be pretending like bringing in a rookie who hasn't really played in weeks is such a gigantic difference maker to the offense that it makes us incapable of even getting first downs.

[The Raven]

I liked what I saw. The play calls, to me, were okay. The route concepts were great. I can see how he's gonna be scheming guys open and maximizing a player's talents. Unfortunately, the blocking just didn't show up, so it's tough to see anything positive. The scheme, the overall system, it looks good to me.

Edited September 14, 2015 by The Raven

[usmccharles]

When our season is over we will know the answer...

[Clmraven]

We were playing an elite defense and a group of coaches who know flacco well enough to stop him, I'm gonna hold off my judgement until at least week 4, but it really looked like it was trestman trying to run kubiaks offense rather than him running his own and that's kinda worrying, I'd rather have trestman running an offense he's comfortable with.

[Purple_City39]

Did Waller get any snaps?

 

It looked like shades of Cam go with the same WR corp on each and every play based on the preseason rankings.

 

He was a gunner on the first punt.  That's all I recall.

[RaineV1]

I think the offense would have done okay if the Ravens weren't going against two of the best pass rushers in the NFL, possibly the best pass rushing tandem. The only thing that worries me is that without Perriman or a Torrey Smith, defenses will not respect the deep pass from the Ravens, or the play action. They're going to play with their safeties in the box constantly and that's going to hurt the run game and passes to the tight end. We really do need Perriman out there to make them back off.

[Ravensfan23]

Other then the results i love what i saw from Trestman. Call me crazy but i thought the scheme, play calling and tempo of the offense were all pretty good considering. It's nearly impossible for anyone to call a good game when your oline is getting beat early and often. It's honestly unfair to judge Trestman without seeing the game film because the oline never gave Joe time for things to develop.

I really enjoy the different route concepts and the space that was created even without the speed of Perriman. Marlon Brown did a good job of opening up the defense and could have had at least 2 more plays of 20+ yards if Joe only had the time to go through more then one read. The 2 and even 3TE sets were efficient in terms of guys being open but again quick pressure killed it.

I love how he changed the offense in the 2nd half and opened things up a bit. Showed he's willing to adjust and not stubbornly stick to the game plan. I thought he tried to stick to the run a bit much, but that's an organizational thing morw then anything imo.

Overall i like what i saw and once the oline gets back into form and Perriman/Taliaferro returns this offense will easily be top 5-10 imo.

[Ravensfan23]

Did Waller get any snaps?

 

It looked like shades of Cam go with the same WR corp on each and every play based on the preseason rankings.

You do realize that Waller is the only WR or TE that didn't see a snap right? That's Sr, Brown, Aiken, Camp, Williams, Gilmore and Boyle who all saw time. Not to mention Forsett, Allen and Juice all spent time split out wide. There was no shades of Cam at all. There was really not much need to put Waller in the game honestly.

[Drew P]

You do realize that Waller is the only WR or TE that didn't see a snap right? That's Sr, Brown, Aiken, Camp, Williams, Gilmore and Boyle who all saw time. Not to mention Forsett, Allen and Juice all spent time split out wide. There was no shades of Cam at all. There was really not much need to put Waller in the game honestly.

 

A deep shot or 2 against those weak safeties wouldn't have hurt. Waller has speed to be a threat instead of those 0 yard pass plays to the flat.

[Purple_City39]

It's Week 1

Exactly this.  People need to realize that Trestman was using Gary Kubiak's playbook against Gary Kubiak and Gary Kubiak's defense who practices against that same playbook.

 

Trestman, like players, still needs to get used to the book on a level he would his own playbook.  We'd have a better time beating that defense in the playoffs than we would have in week 1, and we still almost got the job done

[The Mom Gene]

You do realize that Waller is the only WR or TE that didn't see a snap right? That's Sr, Brown, Aiken, Camp, Williams, Gilmore and Boyle who all saw time. Not to mention Forsett, Allen and Juice all spent time split out wide. There was no shades of Cam at all. There was really not much need to put Waller in the game honestly.

He did play on Special Teams I think....  but that's it.

[Ravensfan23]

I think the offense would have done okay if the Ravens weren't going against two of the best pass rushers in the NFL, possibly the best pass rushing tandem. The only thing that worries me is that without Perriman or a Torrey Smith, defenses will not respect the deep pass from the Ravens, or the play action. They're going to play with their safeties in the box constantly and that's going to hurt the run game and passes to the tight end. We really do need Perriman out there to make them back off.

But that didn't happen at all in this game. The offense had plenty of space and open guys down field, they just couldn't protect Flacco long enough to go down field. The route combos and spacing moved the safeties from the middle of the field plenty. Perriman would have definitely created some more space with his speed and maybe turned a few short passes into good gains, but anything other then good blocking wouldn't have helped the Ravens.

[K-Dog]

When our season is over we will know the answer...

Sooooo, February we will have an answer?

[Ravensfan23]

He did play on Special Teams I think....  but that's it.

Yea he and Walker did a good job as gunners.