Potential FA Pass Rushers

[redrum52]

SImon is out. There's no way Ozzie trades for a player he already spent a draft pick on.

I was honestly joking about Simon, but I have no idea who he'd go after. Also don't know of any team that just happens to have a depth at rusher or Olb that we could just poach.

Might just be trial by fire for Smith.

Edited September 14, 2015 by redrum52

[drdoub]

Honestly Suggs is a big loss (leadership and pass rush/setting the edge) and I have reservations about him playing in purple again.  I hope he does but time will tell if he hangs it up.

 

However I think all is not lost. Our defense looked good.  Defensive backfield was good besides webb getting burned over the top occasionally.  Once jerrigan comes back we will have good D-line and our ILB are very good.  add Doom and Upshaw and we still have a very good front 7. 

 

I think when you give smith some playing time you are looking at 5-6 sacks.  I think what we need is a player like old school JJ.  what he did for so many years was to set the egde and let others get the glory with sacks and high tackle amounts.  I think Upshaw can do this and still provide 5-6 sacks.  I think we promote Beyer to active roster to fill the OLB void.  Doubt we push the panic button at present time as we still have a good team.   

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

I was honestly joking about Simon, but I have no idea who he'd go after. Also don't know of any team that just happens to have a depth at rusher or Olb that we could just poach.

Might just be trial by fire for Smith.

So we get to here Ravens fans call him a bust for not being a super star his first week. Oh joy.....

[Ravenseconbeast]

Bring in John Abraham or Lance Briggs out of retirement.

 

If not Philip Wheeler

[Ravensfan23]

Hate to see Suggs go down, this forces our defense a bit out of their comfort zone. They might need to be more aggresive and creative, which could result in a less conservative defense. Might be for the better, might be for the worse - we'll have to wait and see.

It should be interesting to how things get shaked up.

Also, what would a 1 year rental with Freeney cost us?

Here's to a speedy recovery for Terrell, go Ravens!

I think the defense being more aggressive is a good thing. Pees does well when bringing pressure, it's when he feels the defense can get pressure with just 3 or 4 man rushes from thw Dl that gets him in trouble. Plus if the secondary plays that well it'll force more turnovers imo. Huge loss but it just might make others step their game up.

Dwight Freeny is probably the beat option right now and he should come come cheap I'd think. He'd be a rush specialist and that's it, put his hands in the dirt and hunt. I'd imagine once the Ravens finish their road trip they'd have Freeny and some others in for a workout.

[redrum52]

So we get to here Ravens fans call him a bust for not being a super star his first week. Oh joy.....

You're viewing the boards wrong. Go in with the right mind set and it's free comedy. He's a fourth round pick. If everyone wants to get their hopes high fine. Hes most like just going to be a situational player anyway. Showed a little in the pre season, so can't hurt.

[PurpleCity5]

Honestly Suggs is a big loss (leadership and pass rush/setting the edge) and I have reservations about him playing in purple again.  I hope he does but time will tell if he hangs it up.

 

However I think all is not lost. Our defense looked good.  Defensive backfield was good besides webb getting burned over the top occasionally.  Once jerrigan comes back we will have good D-line and our ILB are very good.  add Doom and Upshaw and we still have a very good front 7. 

 

I think when you give smith some playing time you are looking at 5-6 sacks.  I think what we need is a player like old school JJ.  what he did for so many years was to set the egde and let others get the glory with sacks and high tackle amounts.  I think Upshaw can do this and still provide 5-6 sacks.  I think we promote Beyer to active roster to fill the OLB void.  Doubt we push the panic button at present time as we still have a good team.   

Agreed, this defense will still be great. We were missing Jigg, who is very important to this defense, I'd honestly say it's really refreshing to have him back and softens the loss of Suggs by a lot. But still, leadership and intelligence, we'll miss that the most from Suggs, that's tough right there. I think we can offset the loss of sacks through, Jigg/Upshaw/Smith by half, but it still sucks to lose him. Don't forget Melvin who was great in the later stage of training camp/preseason and there was talk about stealing Webbs job. 

 

It's also going to have to force us to extend Upshaw honestly, I don't see how we can let him go. 

Edited September 14, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[redrum52]

Bring in John Abraham or Lance Briggs out of retirement.

If not Philip Wheeler

Briggs and Wheeler are 4-3 guys aren't they? I personally wouldn't trust Abraham. Rather let the young guys get action.

[GrimCoconut]

After some thought here, I think I'd be conservative and not make any signing or trade unless it's just a really good deal. Losing Suggs of all guys is tough, but it's certainly not the end. The problem is Suggs has respect and nobody we out there will have the same respect from OC and QB. This could be a real problem when facing Ben, but that's why I would try to roll with scheming the pressure.

I think the right thing to do is put Dumervil at Rush and have McClellan rotate in behind him or even bring a guy like Arrington forward to help set the edge and cover. I'd use Smith behind Upshaw as our situational rusher like Dumervil was. I'd also take a look at whether Steven Means is healthy, or use the roster spot to sign a fast WR. We really do need a fast WR out there since losing Torrey also lost us our deep threat respect. The safeties crowd us now at the LOS and shutdown the run.

I also think our DL can apply ridiculous pressure to mitigate losing Suggs. Jernigan, Williams, Davis and Upshaw should be used as a four man front to bring pressure.

Edited September 14, 2015 by GrimCoconut

[RaineV1]

I think without Suggs, we'll be seeing a lot more blitzes from the nickleback and ILB. Thankfully Arrington, McClellan, and Mosley appear to be good at blitzing. Still, I wouldn't mind the team bringing in Freeney for a year just for a bit of extra firepower on obvious passing downs.

[omar586]

we need more of McClellan, he's underrated pass-rusher, he plays like harrison, we need  give him more snaps at the line scrimmage or heck even blitz on every down.

Edited September 14, 2015 by omar586

[lugie rave]

The Ravens can use Albert Mccellan as  a edge setter and then have Freeney or Babin come in on passing downs along with Doom.

That is not a bad idea something they could think about. Football has become so specialized at positions. 

[Wildabeast88]

Na smith couldn't replace what Suggs did

I know he won't replace Suggs and his production it's just getting the best players on the field just saying

[jazz1988]

One  other guy that may interest The Ravens is Matt Shaughnessy if he hasn't been bought up already.

[rmw10]

One  other guy that may interest The Ravens is Matt Shaughnessy if he hasn't been bought up already.

 

He's an option, but Arizona also switched him from OLB to a down lineman because he wasn't doing so hot as a standup guy.

[Daft Classic]

I feel if they go after anyone in FA, it'll be Freeney. He would be a decent stop gap to act as the patch for the pass rush. However, I hope they stay in house with Upshaw+McClellan getting more snaps. Upshaw never really got a chance to shine as the starting pass rush and McClellan has looked good so far. Regardless of who they put there, I will still be shouting expletives every time a RB gets free or a QB has all day  

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

I'd go get Jason Babin. If anything he could be massive in a part time role in terms of getting pressure

[ravenz2752]

I think everyone is forgetting we have Upshaw. He is a great run stuffer and edge setter. I think we just need a veteran insurance in case Zdarius Smith isn't capable of pass rushing

[pmr468]

I hope we get Freeney. He probably will only rush the passer, but Courtney Upshaw can defend the run well. Of course, freeney won't replace suggs' production or leadership, but he can be a good stop gap situational player.

[808Blackbirds]

Arthur Brown on the outside?

[Cillmatic]

Arthur Brown on the outside?

People...

[usmccharles]

The more i think about it, im not sure a signing is what we need.  Just adjust the rotation and scheme differently with more aggressive bltiz packages.  Give it a couple weeks and see how we do.  We were playing one of the  best qbs in the NFL and we made him look pretty bad, even with his insanely quick release.  We wont be playing anyone of Mannings caliber this year.  Rivers and Palmer i do worry about but not in the sense of the quick release Manning has. 

[Edgar@llenP0e]

They won't look at Free Agency!

[Ravens2343]

The more i think about it, im not sure a signing is what we need.  Just adjust the rotation and scheme differently with more aggressive bltiz packages.  Give it a couple weeks and see how we do.  We were playing one of the  best qbs in the NFL and we made him look pretty bad, even with his insanely quick release.  We wont be playing anyone of Mannings caliber this year.  Rivers and Palmer i do worry about but not in the sense of the quick release Manning has. 

 

I agree I do not think we have to go out and sign someone right away.  The only concern I have is if we can still keep Dumervil off the field on obvious running plays.  Having him fresh throughout the games and the whole season really helps this defense.  If Upshaw and McClellan can handle running downs then Dumervil and Smith/Upshaw/McClellan can all rotate in for pass rushing downs.  Keeping Dumervil fresh is the biggest concern right now

[nextgen_RavensFan]

I like the idea of playing the young guns. We already know that this season is not a bust but a year with some growing pains, mainly on offense. So why not allow players within the organization to gain the valuable playing time. 

[jazz1988]

They won't look at Free Agency!

 

Harbaugh said they would 

[Sami84]

Eugene Monroe is the first that comes to mind.

I'd look into trading for Tamba Hali, he's older and the chiefs have a first rounder in dee ford waiting for a chance.

 

Yes..Tamba Hali would be a good option. He's still got some left in the tank..hes a bit younger than suggs with  less mileage.

Whats he owed though?

[Sami84]

i just checked.

 

 Signed a one-year, $6 million contract. The deal included a $5 million signing bonus. 2015: $870,000 (+ $130,000 workout bonus), 2016: Free Agent

[Edgar]

Why on earth would he be available? And why would anyone think Monroe could help enough to trade for him?

[Sami84]

Why on earth would he be available? And why would anyone think Monroe could help enough to trade for him?

 

nono the monroe reference in the quote was how we do trade early in the season for a need if its imperative. not about trading monroe for hali.