The good, bad and ugly vs Broncos

[Mick0311]

Joe did everything he could on every play. Ozzie has failed to field a legitimate supporting cast around Joe for the 2nd time in three years since giving Joe his contract after he won the Super Bowl.

 

Mind...read...

[Ravenseconbeast]

Unlike Lee and Housh, I expect SSS to bounce back.  He's a very prideful player, I'm sure that play frustrated him immensely. 

 

I agree.   It also didn't help his opposite side basically did absolutely nothing.   Aiken was a ghost.

[jimmypowder]

Mind...read...

I agree . No wide receiver speed and mediocre at best tight ends .

Anyone else think a strong tight end hauls that end zone pass in . Yep . You betcha .

[redrum52]

Not true.... if you stop the QB from throwing it. It doesn't matter who's downfield. We proved that ourselves with Manning today and our 7 sacks

Look at how our DBS played on Thomas. That's all I'm saying. Those sacks also came from the secondary doing their job. Pees did nothing different from what he normally does. The only difference was solid tackling and guys keeping their man in front of them.

[Clmraven]

It's now time for upshaw to step up, I hope pees gives him chances to rush the passer see if he can handle it in a full time role. Also Jernigan coming back is huge now because he'll likely be our second best pass rusher.

[redlobster]

Disappointed in the amount of pessimism about the Suggs injury. It is a big loss for sure, but I believe we can overcome. This defense has plenty of talent.

Lol he is arguably the most complete olb playing and the ravens have 0 depth behind him. Upshaw and zadarius Smith? Lol we are in trouble.

[jimmypowder]

I agree. It also didn't help his opposite side basically did absolutely nothing. Aiken was a ghost.

Aiken really isn't a starter imo . We need Perriman bad .

[redlobster]

One positive is arrington, I really liked his play and especially his blitzing

[usmccharles]

Thus is devastating but I'm not going to lie, makes me excited to see some young talent step up.

[jaege]

Come on. Lets all be honest. Everyone here had this game down as a loss anyway. And we did pretty well almost pulling it out. There were some mistakes, and some weaknesses were exposed, but overall the defense did very well and the offense did okay considering who they were playing. Fortunately there are no more Peyton Mannings on our schedule this season.

[4everraven]

The Bad: Entire Offense... Coaching staff included. Marc Trestman handcuffed him the entire first half with his awful play calling. Yet another year where we will not pass for over 200 yards against ANY team with an above secondary that plays press man coverage. Not ONE screen... not ONE shot deep down the field... no rub routes... nothing that other NFL offenses use to counter press. We just gave up as soon as they didn't play the soft zone coverage Joe sees 75% of the time in practice.

This is excellent analysis. When will the Ravens get a creative OC? Only 1 game for Trestman but geez it was bad.

[usmccharles]

Fortunately there are no more Peyton Mannings on our schedule this season.

I only see Palmer and rivers being the qb left on our schedule that will eat us up.

[gooftroop]

I guess we figured we'd only pass on obvious passing downs, or, maybe, Trestman wanted to prove he wasn't just a pass-happy OC. I know execution usually trumps scheme but, man, the playcalling was disappointing...

[Static]

It's now time for upshaw to step up, I hope pees gives him chances to rush the passer see if he can handle it in a full time role. Also Jernigan coming back is huge now because he'll likely be our second best pass rusher.

 

Peas seems to prefer Upshaw in coverage lol

[PuRock]

It's now time for upshaw to step up, I hope pees gives him chances to rush the passer see if he can handle it in a full time role. Also Jernigan coming back is huge now because he'll likely be our second best pass rusher.

 

Upshaw was known for his pass rushing prowess at Alabama but it hasn't translated to the NFL.  A part of that has had to do with opportunity.  He is one of the key guys that needs to step up in the wake of Suggs loss.  

[757RavensFan]

It's certainly not an easy catch but Gillmore is 6-6. He shouldn't have let the DB get in that position in the first place with his size advantage. That's part of what it means to be a receiver. You need to prevent the CB or S from getting leverage on you and you do that by maintaining your position and preventing them from entering yours, as well as other methods to gain separation. In this situation, the catch was very tough but Gillmore shouldn't have even allowed the catch to be as contested as it was.

Care to explain how Gillmore can prevent the defender's hands from coming in between his while concentrating to catch the ball? That's done in a fraction of a second and there's nothing Gillmore can do to prevent the defender from getting his hands in there.

Edited September 14, 2015 by 757RavensFan

[BBoogieMan]

Most QBs can't overcome WRs dropping gamewinning TD passes.

 

And it's not Pees's fault that Webb sucks. Overall the D was fantastic.

Most high paying QBs don't throw game-changing, momentum stopping pick-6s. Don't throw the pick...perhaps no need to throw a GW TD because we're ahead although SSS should've caught it, I give you that.

 

Didn't say the D wasn't great. They played with tremendous heart....Webb sucks, ok? Anyone on the team better? if so, put him in. If not, put your players in the best position succeed...not running full speed at or by you. Not with the ability to disrupt picks and crosses.

[FlackAttack]

Last post I'm making on this game. Our defense is nasty and the offense will improve bit by bit as the season goes along. I told you guys Buck Allen would look better behind a real OL. Maxx and Gillmore just need time, they will be an awesome duo late in the year. Trestman also just needs more time, he did some good things in the second half. Hate losing Sizzle but it's still next man up(shaw).

 

Perriman will be a game changer for the offense and Jimmy Smith is top 5. It's not how you start it's how you finish. It's about peaking at the right time and this team is built to peak late in he year when it matters most.

 

upshaw wont be the replacement for suggs lol

[allblackraven]

But when is Perriman coming back? Because this offense will be garbage until he does.

One receiver does not make difference between good and garbage offense. O line play does, like we saw in '13 and today. You can have 3 Megatrons but they wouldn't see any passes if the QB has no time to throw.

 

Also, how do you know Perriman will be so great - you never watched the guy play?

[ratedr]

Most high paying QBs don't throw game-changing, momentum stopping pick-6s. Don't throw the pick...perhaps no need to throw a GW TD because we're ahead although SSS should've caught it, I give you that.

 

Didn't say the D wasn't great. They played with tremendous heart....Webb sucks, ok? Anyone on the team better? if so, put him in. If not, put your players in the best position succeed...not running full speed at or by you. Not with the ability to disrupt picks and crosses.

There's obviously nobody better than Webb. Pees can't stop him from getting burned, Sanders was running by him all day, Webb clearly isn't the same player he was before the ACL injury.

 

You won't get any argument from me about that awful pick-6...from the way the game unfolded, it appears we win if that pass isn't thrown. But I still expect our #1 WR to make that catch at the end.

[Static]

This is excellent analysis. When will the Ravens get a creative OC? Only 1 game for Trestman but geez it was bad.

 

The 2nd we do get one he will be poached for a Head Coaching job but Trestman managed to surprise me with how bad his play calling was.

 

3 straight runs plays wow. 

[Kid87]

I just finished watching the game.. It look like the tale of two halves. The protection of Flacco was much better in the 2nd half. We looked really good. I honestly feel like we could have won. Im excited for this season

[The Mom Gene]

One positive is arrington, I really liked his play and especially his blitzing

I agree with that.  He looked good...  was in there on almost every play.

[PuRock]

I just finished watching the game.. It look like the tale of two halves. The protection of Flacco was much better in the 2nd half. We looked really good. I honestly feel like we could have won. Im excited for this season

 

It was refreshing that it seemed like we made adjustments on both sides of the ball coming out of the half.  

[757RavensFan]

Good: The defense. They only allowed ONE offensive play within the redzone. Impressed with the efforts of; B Will, J. Smith, D. Smith, CJ, Hill, C. Davis, Allen, Gillmore, Maxx and Arrington

Bad: Entire offense minus the ones I mentioned above.

[52liveforever]

Lol he is arguably the most complete olb playing and the ravens have 0 depth behind him. Upshaw and zadarius Smith? Lol we are in trouble.

 

Not enough people appreciate what upshaw does. I rarely see a run or screen go to his side with any success. He may not be making the tackles every time, but his disruption on the blockers and getting a hand on the runner no doubt effects those plays. Its not necessarily fair to judge his pass rush b.c he is never in for those type of situations. i hate that Upshaw doesnt get enough love. I think he earns it this season even though he's always been a big piece to our rush defense and should be getting the love already,

[January J]

We almost snuck out of there with a W. Too be honest I'm actually pretty pleased. I feared that our defense and especially secondary would struggle but it ended up being our strongpoint. Pees called a pretty good game. We kept a hall of fame qb and a high powered offense from scoring 1 td. Flacco put us in the position to win in the end and threw 2 possible game winners. A little upset with trestmans playcalling. No screens. And once again we didn't find a way to make them pay when they continuously brought pressure. With all that said, once we get perriman and tali back we will be in much better shape and u think our offense will start clickin. Lots of reasons for us to be excited about where this team is headed . But damn would a win have been nice. We had the entire mile high stadium shakin in their boots once again.

[Tank 92]

webb...... oh my.

[Kid87]

Flacco B-

HB B-

WR D

TE B+

O Line C-

D Line C+

LB B

Secondary B-

[gooftroop]

Couldn't run the ball worth a damn, either, although that didn't stop Trestman from calling a run play every time or first down- or at least it seemed like it. I was hoping we'd see the kind of playcalling Kubiak employed in the playoff game vs the Steelers last year- inventive and ballsy. Instead we got Caldwell, circa 2013.