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[RavensFanMania]

I would be estatic if we traded for Donte Moncrief. 3rd round pick two years ago, Colts seemingly immediately gave up on starting him when they drafted 1st rounder Dorsett. Leaving Moncrief the 4th receiver of a powerful WR core. If I'm Ozzie I'm thinking about him, then again, I'm just a fan.

Moncrief was drafted in 2014 not two years ago and there is no way the Colts let him walk.

[frozen joe flacco fan]

It should be a V but it won't be a gimme. We do not play well against former coaches. The other

X-factor which is of major concern is the under-performance of our offense notwithstanding Denver's D

is pretty solid. The O-line play was horrible as was the play-calling. Not until the very end of the

game did we involve the TEs to any degree and by that time it was too little, too late. One cannot help but wonder if the offense over-achieved last year to win games for Coach K, rather than for Coach Harbaugh. Last year's offense included three of Coach K's former players --- JJ, Justin Forsett &

Owen Daniels. Two of them now play elsewhere and, oh yeah, Torrey is with Anquan. Otherwise, this is the same offense we had last year and yet we could only score 13 points in our opening game after a

disappointing pre-season. It really also seems like the lack of continuity we have with OCs is

becoming a real issue with Joe and the rest of the offense. As a case in point, Dean Pees should havebeen the defensive coach of the year last year. There is something to be said for continuity at key

coaching positions.

[Cillmatic]

He is a scrap of heap. Colts invested in ton of receivers via draft. Only star to emerge is TY. They got sick of it and got Andre.

You underrate Dorsett, he's gonna be special

[rmcjacket23]

He is a scrap of heap. Colts invested in ton of receivers via draft. Only star to emerge is TY. They got sick of it and got Andre.

1. He will likely never be a Raven, and certainly not in a trade.

 

2. Moncrief would instantly be the #2 receiver on this team (even with a healthy Perriman) and I'd give him a legitimate shot to out produce SSS over a full season if healthy and playing here all season long.

 

3. Andre was brought in as a short-term insurance policy.

[TuckerTime9]

Talk about week 1 overreactions... Some of you guys really need to chill out. We've only seen 1 week of these guys in action and some of you are already hitting the panic button. Losing by 6 to a team like Denver should have no shame involved, I loved what I saw from our defense. Of course our offense struggled but I blame that mightily on the offensive line just blocking horribly and the WRs failing to get seperation. Perriman missing is affecting us in ways we haven't felt in what, 4 years now, as this is the first time since we don't have a true vertical threat. Lets chill out guys, we're still a super bowl contender and we know it.

[Ravenseconbeast]

1. He will likely never be a Raven, and certainly not in a trade.

 

2. Moncrief would instantly be the #2 receiver on this team (even with a healthy Perriman) and I'd give him a legitimate shot to out produce SSS over a full season if healthy and playing here all season long.

 

3. Andre was brought in as a short-term insurance policy.

 

No he wouldnt.  His stats is comparable to Marlon Brown.   I would say his production stays as it is.  Just below 500 as a depth player.

[rmcjacket23]

No he wouldnt.  His stats is comparable to Marlon Brown.   I would say his production stays as it is.  Just below 500 as a depth player.

Won't find a single analyst on this planet who agrees with this assessment, nor would anybody who actually watches game film agree with this.

 

Played nearly as many snaps as Andre Johnson did last week, played FAR ahead of Dorsett, and had a great game against the Bills. I'd expect a pretty good one on Monday as well, pending he doesn't get put on Revis Island (which would actually be an indictment of his perception by the league).

 

If he played in Baltimore currently, and our Oline actually blocked, he would absolutely obliterate anything statistically Marlon Brown has done as a Raven.

[Gtown Purple]

I have a feeling the ravens take out some frustration on the raiders.

[Kid87]

Raiders are already banged up offense and D.. not gonna be a blowout, but we should when by double digits..#RAVENSOnTheRebound

[Sami84]

This offense will change if perriman is a torrey smith or hopefully a better version. it will change when campanaro is used. it will change when marlon brown and aiken are no longer seen as 4th choice.

 

 

i really hope wagner hasn't lost it because of that injury. 

 

Monroe is pissing me off because i know he can be better. I saw what he did in 2013 for us and was excellent in 2011 and 2012.

[ravensdan]

Won't find a single analyst on this planet who agrees with this assessment, nor would anybody who actually watches game film agree with this.

Played nearly as many snaps as Andre Johnson did last week, played FAR ahead of Dorsett, and had a great game against the Bills. I'd expect a pretty good one on Monday as well, pending he doesn't get put on Revis Island (which would actually be an indictment of his perception by the league).

If he played in Baltimore currently, and our Oline actually blocked, he would absolutely obliterate anything statistically Marlon Brown has done as a Raven.

Yeah Monceeif is going to be a very good player. Needs development similar to what perriman will. Colts brought in Andre to be the vet replacement for Wayne. Mostly his experience. Absolutely 0 chance colts trade a player like this so I have no idea why it's even being entertained.

[ravensdan]

Just watched the Raiders short cut vs the Bengals. Boy they are a really bad team. Worse than I expected. The Ravens will slaughter them up front on both sides. Carr is not an impressive player to me in any way. I can't see them scoring any points to be honest. Only time raiders moved the ball was with Mcgloin deep in garbage time. Really poor talent on this team. Didn't see much of anything out of Aldon either to be honest. Tuck was their best rusher but he's a really inconsistent player. Kind of expect the Ravens to put a 50 burger on this team. Even with their offensive limitations.

[Militant X 1]

Talk about week 1 overreactions... Some of you guys really need to chill out. We've only seen 1 week of these guys in action and some of you are already hitting the panic button. Losing by 6 to a team like Denver should have no shame involved, I loved what I saw from our defense. Of course our offense struggled but I blame that mightily on the offensive line just blocking horribly and the WRs failing to get seperation. Perriman missing is affecting us in ways we haven't felt in what, 4 years now, as this is the first time since we don't have a true vertical threat. Lets chill out guys, we're still a super bowl contender and we know it.

 

We've been over these 2 points year after year after year!  It's old and tiring! 

 

At some point, people need to accept what their eyes see...that being our offensive personnel is not that good!  Yeah, it was one game, yada, yada, yada....but to me, it's always how the Ravens offense "looks" in losses like this.  They failed to execute and match Denvers sense of urgency and intensity...something they show against the Ravens ever since that Mile High Miracle.  They have a chip on their shoulders when it comes to the Ravens and our guys don't seem to feel the same way when facing them. 

 

Guarantee, we'll hear the O-line issues and lack of receiver separation excuses used IF we lose next week vs the Raiders!  It's a personnel problem!

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

We've been over these 2 points year after year after year!  It's old and tiring! 

 

At some point, people need to accept what their eyes see...that being our offensive personnel is not that good!  Yeah, it was one game, yada, yada, yada....but to me, it's always how the Ravens offense "looks" in losses like this.  They failed to execute and match Denvers sense of urgency and intensity...something they show against the Ravens ever since that Mile High Miracle.  They have a chip on their shoulders when it comes to the Ravens and our guys don't seem to feel the same way when facing them. 

 

Guarantee, we'll hear the O-line issues and lack of receiver separation excuses used IF we lose next week vs the Raiders!  It's a personnel problem!

And almost every year we've made the playoffs and have won at least one game each time we go there. We lost week one last year too, and the oline and WRs looked like crap then as well. This time around we played a much better team than the Bengals were. Monroe comes back we'll be fine, as with Perriman. 

 

We called a conservative game because one tiny mistake would've lost us the game(and it DID).. Sometimes going in guns blazing is dumb. I'm disappointing too, but I have no doubt in my mind we'll be better next week. 

[Militant X 1]

And almost every year we've made the playoffs and have won at least one game each time we go there. We lost week one last year too, and the oline and WRs looked like crap then as well. This time around we played a much better team than the Bengals were. Monroe comes back we'll be fine, as with Perriman. 

 

We called a conservative game because one tiny mistake would've lost us the game(and it DID).. Sometimes going in guns blazing is dumb. I'm disappointing too, but I have no doubt in my mind we'll be better next week. 

 

I understand all of the rheotoric about the Ravens making the playoffs after bad starts in previous years.

 

Monroe is soft and Perriman is unproven so I wouldn't bank much on them at this point.  And, "going in guns blazing" isn't dumb when you have the personnel to do that and can do that (like the Patriots looked in their opener)....the Ravens can't and don't!  The conservative play calls are as a result of the conservative personnel on the field!  No one is explosive!  No one is a game changer!  And, no one on the Ravens offense puts fear in opposing defenses minds....no one!  After that embarrasment for a second year in a row in Denver, they can't help but improve for next week.  Let's see if it happens!

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

I understand all of the rheotoric about the Ravens making the playoffs after bad starts in previous years.

Monroe is soft and Perriman is unproven so I wouldn't bank much on them at this point. And, "going in guns blazing" isn't dumb when you have the personnel to do that and can do that (like the Patriots looked in their opener)....the Ravens can't and don't! The conservative play calls are as a result of the conservative personnel on the field! No one is explosive! No one is a game changer! And, no one on the Ravens offense puts fear in opposing defenses minds....no one! After that embarrasment for a second year in a row in Denver, they can't help but improve for next week. Let's see if it happens!

Embarassment? We barley lost to a damn good team? Nothing embarassing about it. Not like we got blown out.

Um. No. Outside of Gronk, literally no one on that Patriots scares me. Edelman is good but not by any means elite as a WR. And Jimmy Smith would honestly take him out of the equation. Honestly, the patriots only dominated because the steelers defense is an utter peiece of crap. We'll probably go guns blazing against them with suceess.

1. Breshad is unproven in all but one regard. He's fast. All we need him to be right now is a deep threat. Once he returns, we'll basically tell him "run in a straight line". Not too many corners will be able to keep up and honestly, it changes our game plan tremendously.

2. Monroe? Soft? You crazy. Monroe is a top 15 to top 10 left tackle when healthy. He's easily above average. And if you're calling him soft because of his injury, I've gotten a concussion once. Not fun at all. I've split my freaking head open(family says it explains everything). Not fun.

The overreactions are scary. Denver was equally ineffective on offense until their last drive when we were gassed. And with the exception of the last play, so were they. We moved the ball on them with relative ease.

If Perriman turns out to be the deep threat as advertised and we're fully healthy come playoff time, we'll be a hard team to beat. We just need time.

[BmoreBird22]

This might be me being too much of a fan and not too smart when it comes to actually play calls, but when Joe is being pressured liked that, instead of making him take 3-5 step drop backs or what ever he was taking, why couldnt ( or didnt) we just switch to shotgun with a rb to his side?  We still could of ran the ball like that but at least Joe could of seen the field for another 2 seconds, maybe.

My guess would be that it's because he wanted to establish the run. Running from the shotgun is not advantageous to a running back for several reasons. They get no running start, don't have the same vision, and have to run across the formation and be faster than the edge (not against Miller or Ware). I would have liked to see more shotgun, but you know, it is what it is

[Dewy101]

Embarassment? We barley lost to a damn good team? Nothing embarassing about it. Not like we got blown out.

Um. No. Outside of Gronk, literally no one on that Patriots scares me. Edelman is good but not by any means elite as a WR. And Jimmy Smith would honestly take him out of the equation. Honestly, the patriots only dominated because the steelers defense is an utter peiece of crap. We'll probably go guns blazing against them with suceess.

1. Breshad is unproven in all but one regard. He's fast. All we need him to be right now is a deep threat. Once he returns, we'll basically tell him "run in a straight line". Not too many corners will be able to keep up and honestly, it changes our game plan tremendously.

2. Monroe? Soft? You crazy. Monroe is a top 15 to top 10 left tackle when healthy. He's easily above average. And if you're calling him soft because of his injury, I've gotten a concussion once. Not fun at all. I've split my freaking head open(family says it explains everything). Not fun.

The overreactions are scary. Denver was equally ineffective on offense until their last drive when we were gassed. And with the exception of the last play, so were they. We moved the ball on them with relative ease.

If Perriman turns out to be the deep threat as advertised and we're fully healthy come playoff time, we'll be a hard team to beat. We just need time.

the fact that our o line outside Yanda got completely dominated is a little concerning. Im not sure if Wagner is 100% from last years injury and KO has said his achilles has caused him major pain.

[usmccharles]

the fact that our o line outside Yanda got completely dominated is a little concerning. Im not sure if Wagner is 100% from last years injury and KO has said his achilles has caused him major pain.

I still dont get why people are so concerned with this.  Miller and Ware are most likely the best pass rush duo in th eleague now that suggs is out for the year.  Im willing to bet that any team is going to have issues stopping those guys.  We wont face any pass rush like that again, expect maybe st louis. 

[K-Dog]

I think next year we should open against Brownie Troop 416.

You know, so some fans can start the season with a bit more confidence.

( and I dont mean the Cleveland Browns. I mean an actual Brownie Troop )

[JEEPercreepermd]

We should roll them up pretty good.

[JEEPercreepermd]

I think next year we should open against Brownie Troop 416.

You know, so some fans can start the season with a bit more confidence.

( and I dont mean the Cleveland Browns. I mean an actual Brownie Troop )

I don't know, I'd rather face the Cleveland Browns than Brownie troop 419.

[usmccharles]

I think next year we should open against Brownie Troop 416.

You know, so some fans can start the season with a bit more confidence.

( and I dont mean the Cleveland Browns. I mean an actual Brownie Troop )

I honestly dont know how fans dont have confidence after that game against the Broncos.  Top pass rush, top corners, top offense....

[K-Dog]

I honestly dont know how fans dont have confidence after that game against the Broncos. Top pass rush, top corners, top offense....

Right there with you man.

This site has really made my head hurt this week.

[balfan23]

Going into the new week, always interested in seeing who is on the field during practices. Too often, guys get hurt on Sunday and you don't find out until practice. That was a physical game. I hope we don't find out about any new injury issues ... we have enough already. 

[1/28/01]

Must. Whoop. The. Raiders!

[rmcjacket23]

We've been over these 2 points year after year after year!  It's old and tiring! 

 

At some point, people need to accept what their eyes see...that being our offensive personnel is not that good!  Yeah, it was one game, yada, yada, yada....but to me, it's always how the Ravens offense "looks" in losses like this.  They failed to execute and match Denvers sense of urgency and intensity...something they show against the Ravens ever since that Mile High Miracle.  They have a chip on their shoulders when it comes to the Ravens and our guys don't seem to feel the same way when facing them. 

 

Guarantee, we'll hear the O-line issues and lack of receiver separation excuses used IF we lose next week vs the Raiders!  It's a personnel problem!

Well, it all depends...

 

For the most part (although I might be giving them too much credit here), fans can tell whether the Oline is blocking well or not. A blind person could probably tell that they didn't block well against Denver. 

 

If they block well, and I expect they will, and we fail to move the ball at least somewhat consistently, then yes, its a personnel problem (which I largely agree at the WR/TE position it is). If they don't block well on Sunday, then we've got a whole other group of questions that will be asked. 

 

Using the Oline blocked poorly as an excuse was valid for week 1, but I don't suspect it will be the case all season long. I think there's at least three very talented players on that Oline, and a couple of them didn't play very well on Sunday.

 

For what its worth... I felt like Denver's offense didn't match our defenses intensity either. I felt for at least the first half and probably most of the third quarter, their offense just kept operating the same way thinking that things would eventually go in their favor (kind of like the Ravens), and it frankly never did.

 

Its entirely possible that by Sunday night, we will be thinking that last week's game was far more simple to diagnose than we suspect... it was two very, very, very good defenses playing two pretty average offenses, and the defenses dominated as we would expect them to.

[Ravensfan23]

I still dont get why people are so concerned with this.  Miller and Ware are most likely the best pass rush duo in th eleague now that suggs is out for the year.  Im willing to bet that any team is going to have issues stopping those guys.  We wont face any pass rush like that again, expect maybe st louis.

Miller, Ware and Phillips was just too much of a task for a oline who 3/5 of them were just returning from injury and didn't practice much. Remember going into prep week we didn't even know if all the starters would play. So the combo of Wagner and Hurst not being up to par with those rusher and Phillips just having the perfect scheme with his front 7 to beat a Kubiak offense he's spent years coaching with and against was just too much.

There were some positive things that have me excited about the oline and offense as a whole going into this game. Obviously you had to look very hard through all the crappy play and going back to watch the game without emotion helped, but Trestman did a great job moving the defense with misdirection. Poor execution left some big yardsin the running game and thus the play action wasn't really available.

The Broncos played man 90% of the game, i can't remember if Jack Del Rio liked man or zone defense but i saw enough in the Broncos game to know if Oak trys to play man coverage all game the Ravens will have a huge game offenseively and the WR talk will be quieted for at least one week.

[ravensdfan]

People love to complain on here when we don't score 50 points every game. 

We scored 6 pts on offense. We ran on 1st & 2nd down over 66% of the time.

 

These are valid concerns even though it is one week.

[Ravens2343]

It will be exciting to see this week if Taliaferro, Jernigan and Melvin can get back out there vs the Raiders.  If Taliaferro is healthy then what do we do with Magee?  Keep him up for depth at RB/KR or practice squad?  It would be interesting to see who they bring in to fill his roster spot.  Personally I would like to see a veteran Offensive Tackle or a Corner back brought in.  If not then I vote to promote Jeremy Ross from the practice squad for KR/PR duties and a speed threat on occasion.  Thoughts?