[News] Late For Work 9/10: 'Doggone' Joe Flacco Returns To Scene Of Crime

[GO_Ravens]

They said he was walking through routes gingerly.

[Ravensfansince03]

First of all when we last played Denver it was right after our SB season when Ray Lewis & Company left and this team had t ofind its identity. We have much younger fresh & faster squad on defense, and a much tougher offense.

Edited September 10, 2015 by Ravensfansince03

[steelcityraven]

Wellll.... IDK what this says about the NYGIANTS or about ASA... the Giants are badly in need for DB's and hence why they picked up Asa... but he couldn't / didn't last a week with them? didn't even practice? A team who badly needs DB's and sees that as one of their biggest weaknesses thinks that he is not good enough to even give a chance to... I think it becomes more clear why we cut ASA

[Ravensfansince03]

Nearly this whole article's main point is "ravens fans be afraid". Cut it out Sarah lol. Tell the team how most people are betting that the Broncos offense will have a clinic on our defense, that will get them riled up.

Edited September 10, 2015 by Ravensfansince03

[drgeo]

I wonder if Dean Peas was taking notes during every practice last year? Perhaps he has scouted Mr Kubiak?

[jravens13]

"Jacoby made everyone cringe as he would bring deep kicks out of the endzone?" Jamison Hensley. As in leading the NFL in Kick Return Average in 2014. We are missing Jacoby and never found a replacement. Hopefully Camp can stay healthy and make plays. And we cut Daniel Brown to make room for Asa. When will we learn that he isn't any good? It took the Giants 2 days.

Edited September 10, 2015 by jravens13

[Ravensfansince03]

The Broncos LB's are in for a rude awakening. Last time we played them 2 years ago our offense wasn't that big. Now guys like Danny Trevathan and Brandon Marshall who are 6''1' LB's will face our receivers who all stand tall and strong. Our TE group will demolish them.

[roamingcharges]

If you needed further proof that the ProBowl is overrated here's a nugget for you: Andy Dalton is a two time ProBowler. Oh, and Flacco has never played in that game.

[bioLarzen]

I decided to break this down (2013 opener) to see if there was a difference in his stats after we were getting blown out...

 

1st quarter... 11/15, 82 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT

2nd quarter... 7/17, 101 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT

3rd quarter... 4/14, 43 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT

4th quarter... 12/20, 136 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT

 

So basically, 1st half, while the game was competitive (we were actually winning), he was 18/32 for 183 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT.

2nd half, game largely out of reach by mid-3rd quarter, he was 16/34 for 179 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT.

 

Looks pretty consistent, although we were down by 18 going into the fourth quarter, so not really sure what to make of his 4th quarter stats.

 

Though if you look at it, 2nd and 3rd quarters, he was pretty terrible... 11/31, 144 yards and 1 INT. We were outscored 35-10 during those 2 quarters.

 

Not to put all the blame on Joe though...

 

In the third quarter of that game, where we were outscored 21-0, we had five possessions. We ran 18 offensive plays TOTAL in those five possessions, and gained a total of 32 yards on those 18 offensive plays.

 

Good breakdown. Yeah, the problem with the fourth quarter is that by that time, as you mention, we were trailing far behind, and that always sends any balanced starategies down the drain, and usually gives the QB a ton more passing opportunities. That usually inflates both the number of pass attempts and the pass yardage - while ruining pass accuracy, completion percentage  - and results in more INT's... No wonder analysts keep saying you don't win NFL games by passing 45-50 times or more...

[jdynamite]

Sucks that Perriman hasn't heeled enough yet to even practice. I mean after the initial reports I thought the guy would be back on the field in 3 or 4 days practicing now he has officially missed the entire preseason, and will miss possibly the first 2 weeks of the season...

[bioLarzen]

If you needed further proof that the ProBowl is overrated here's a nugget for you: Andy Dalton is a two time ProBowler. Oh, and Flacco has never played in that game.

 

TBH, I never understood the importance of the Pro Bowl...

[Nick04263]

If you needed further proof that the ProBowl is overrated here's a nugget for you: Andy Dalton is a two time ProBowler. Oh, and Flacco has never played in that game.

 

It is a terribly useless game. It should just be awarded to players instead of them having to play in the game. That way noone turns it down and they can focus on getting it presented to players who earned it instead of popularity. Guys use this as a bargaining chip on deals and it has lost all credibility.

[bioLarzen]

You guys are getting way too technical about a game that was played 2 years ago...  and really???  We lost.  It's the Past.  Time to move into 2015.  Sheesh...  We are a better team now. 

 

Go Ravens.

 

Well, seems like we like being technical about Ravens-games that were played 2 years ago Hope it's not a sin here

 

Or are you implying we love our Ravens too much???

Edited September 10, 2015 by bioLarzen

[bioLarzen]

It is a terribly useless game. It should just be awarded to players instead of them having to play in the game. That way noone turns it down and they can focus on getting it presented to players who earned it instead of popularity. Guys use this as a bargaining chip on deals and it has lost all credibility.

 

Word.

[bioLarzen]

If you needed further proof that the ProBowl is overrated here's a nugget for you: Andy Dalton is a two time ProBowler. Oh, and Flacco has never played in that game.

 

Even better: Billy Cundiff is a Pro Bowl kicker (2011) :D

Edited September 10, 2015 by bioLarzen

[757RavensFan]

The funny thing about the 2013 Week#1 game in Denver that everyone remembers it as a total collapse. In fact, Flacco was nearly not as bad as many remember. The only stat that's really terrible, was his 2 INT's. Otherwise, he had a rather OK outing, going 34/62, 362 yards and 2 TD's. It's, in fact, a better stat-line than that of his Mile High Miracle game stats (18/34, 331 yards), with the exception of the 3 TD's and no INT's...

 

Sadly, it was the weak running game (courtesy of a ramshackle O-line) and an underperforming D that made that game a tragedy...

 

If I remember correctly, we failed to score right before halftime, which IMO changed the entire outlook of the game. 

[bioLarzen]

If I remember correctly, we failed to score right before halftime, which IMO changed the entire outlook of the game. 

 

Yeah, it was an open game in the halftime. It was the second half - and especially the third quarter - that was way too lopsided and threw the game beyond reach for us.

 

But let's leave it at this, Mom Gene is gonna threw us out

Edited September 10, 2015 by bioLarzen

[devilsadvocate1]

Likely the Giants, who need CBs, grabbed Asa quickly before another team could. Then they watched the tape...

[RobHolthause]

We cut Dan Brown to make room for Asa Jackson? That's a bummer... I think Brown has WAY more upside.

[ksk316]

Doggone Flacco *lol*

Edited September 10, 2015 by ksk316

[devilsadvocate1]

We won't have Perriman for a while. So let's beat them with fast moving, sustained drives. No bombs. Look at Philadelphia against us in preseason and NE in the playoffs. Neither team threw a pass much over 10 yards. I always cringe at Joe's long balls anyway because they almost always are underthrown. Don't know why because he has a cannon for an arm, but the receivers seem to have to slow down and wait for them. This should spark some controversy.

[devilsadvocate1]

thank you ksk316, that video shows what I was talking about. Jacoby had to wait on the pass, but was so far behind that terrible defense that it worked.

[LNB]

We cut Dan Brown to make room for Asa Jackson? That's a bummer... I think Brown has WAY more upside.

I second that.  Asa has his strengths, but we also know that he has his issues.  All Dan has shown is positive, and it would have been nice to give him more time to develop.

[LNB]

Can't say that I agree with the writer's opinion about Jacoby. No doubt that he had a bad year. News Flash: it happens. Even to HOFers. His raw talent in speed, his attitude, and his experience running returns puts him in the top tier of returners and makes him a wildcard WR. If he is in the game, the defense always has to think down the field. Considering that there was a full offseason ahead to work with him on the We had the off season to work out the bugs (which I think were focus/concentration/self-induced pressure related), I think we cut him way too soon.

[runcontrol]

Well, depth wins championships - but the pre-season seemed to indicate that we don't have a deep threat depth behind Perriman. Marlon's catch was really a thing of beauty - but it was against backups, and one catch all pre-season... We either don't have a legit backup for Perriman's eep threat abilities, or we did a tremendous job concealing it

 

Do we have a legitimate deep threat after Perriman?  No,not really.  We have seen Steve Smith run a deep route from time to time and Waller has decent speed but nothing on the same level as Perriman.  

 

 

Everyone needs to relax about that deep threat talk.  

A.  Most teams don't have a legitimate deep threat

B. Before Torrey the Ravens went years without a deep threat, and still had a successful running game(something everyone seems to bring up when they talk about having a deep threat)

 

Yes, having a deep threat helps, and you are using Joe's strengths when you have a receiver that can get behind a defense, but its not necessary.  Trestman is just going to have to change up his game plan.  Last season the Bears used a lot of comeback routes, so he might rely on things like that to help Brown, Waller and Aiken get open.  But I think Forsett, Gillmore, and Campanaro will be important parts of the offense.  Glllmore and Forsett will have to take advantage of mismatches and Campanaro will have to find holes in defenses to get open. 

[RavensFootballFan]

Funny how Manning says the statue of limitation expires on the day he killed the Ravens with 7 TDs but am sure he is not thinking the same on Flacco's Mile High Miracle pass to Jacoby. Two - three years? Shoot, that's nothing. I have not forgotten Ravens/Colts/Orioles games resulting in painful loses going back up to 4 decades. lol Don't be fooled, no one lets the painful past be forgotten. At least Suggs admitted it and will put it to good use. 3 more days. Go Ravens!

Edited September 10, 2015 by RavensFootballFan

[runcontrol]

Well, lets face it... if Jacoby was playing a key role in our offense, we were doomed to begin with.

 

 

I think the plan was to have Stokely and Clark play a key roles in the offense, but that never happened.   During the preseason and in the first half of that game Jones looked like he was finally going to be a decent number 2 receiver.  And like someone else brought up, Clark dropping a touchdown pass and Harbs never challenging an incomplete pass to Welker really helped the Broncos come back and win that game. 

[runcontrol]

We won't have Perriman for a while. So let's beat them with fast moving, sustained drives. No bombs. Look at Philadelphia against us in preseason and NE in the playoffs. Neither team threw a pass much over 10 yards. I always cringe at Joe's long balls anyway because they almost always are underthrown. Don't know why because he has a cannon for an arm, but the receivers seem to have to slow down and wait for them. This should spark some controversy.

 

 

Yeah, pretty much what I have been saying.  You adjust your game plan.  Smith, and Camp will have to use the route running skills while Aiken, Brown and Waller use their size to get open and rely on the tight ends and running backs to play a larger part of the passing game.  A deep threat isn't needed, but its a nice weapon to have at your disposal. 

 

But I have seen Flacco over throw Smith and Jones just as much as he has under thrown to them.  The under throw passes are more memorable because they are able to adjust to them, while you can't really adjust to an over throw.  You just have to hope you can get close enough to get your finger tips on them.

[NorthDakotaRaven]

Big Rig is running over ponies in Denver this weekend!!

[ravens4life86]

Thats BS! Perriman, has a PCL Sprain by all known reports which is a 4-6 week healing proccess. Next week is week 6, if he is not playing by next week the Ravens are obviously not being upfront about his injuries. Enough with players must pactice crap.. If a guy is good enough to run deep, that doesnt take practice and playbook knowledge to be a strictly deep threat.

If Perriman isnt back within a week or so.. Ravens are hiding the fact its a more serious injury and he will be out long term...cause a PCL injury he should be back by nect week or so..thats 6 week max timetable is UP