Second Impression of Breshad Perriman

[Cville-Raven]

My guess is it's way more serious than any of us know and at this point have to believe he is a complete bust.

lol no words

[JoeyFlex5]

I have no idea whats wrong with Perriman but I can say that for !00% certainty John Harbaugh knows exactly whats wrong with him and must think us complete idiots to buy his lame excuses. My guess is it's way more serious than any of us know and at this point have to believe he is a complete bust.

so here is a list of complete busts.. 

OBJ 

david decastro 

dante fowler 

 

thats just in recent memory. lost time due to injury obviously means youre a totally incompetent player who has no business in the nfl

[January J]

I have no idea whats wrong with Perriman but I can say that for !00% certainty John Harbaugh knows exactly whats wrong with him and must think us complete idiots to buy his lame excuses. My guess is it's way more serious than any of us know and at this point have to believe he is a complete bust.

or maybeeee harbaugh is actually doing the smart thing and not disclosing what's going on so Denver won't know whether they will be seeing him or not. It's called strategy, and your not required to disclose injuries during preseason and camp.

Do you know how many other first round picks got injured? Using your logic I suppose their all busts too right? No wonder they call you the wizard.

[Jaydoog]

I have no idea whats wrong with Perriman but I can say that for !00% certainty John Harbaugh knows exactly whats wrong with him and must think us complete idiots to buy his lame excuses. My guess is it's way more serious than any of us know and at this point have to believe he is a complete bust.

My question to you is...Are you Serious?

 

Hasn't even stepped on the field once and he is a bust. I can't even...

[The Mom Gene]

or maybeeee harbaugh is actually doing the smart thing and not disclosing what's going on so Denver won't know whether they will be seeing him or not. It's called strategy, and your not required to disclose injuries during preseason and camp.

Do you know how many other first round picks got injured? Using your logic I suppose their all busts too right? .

I agree.....  Like I said...  Until the Ravens organization comes out and says it's more, I will go with that....  I'm not passing judgment on media speculation.  And that's how this mess has all gotten like it always does....  out of hand.

[The Mom Gene]

 

He's doin' exactly that...  trying to get a rise out of everyone.... 

[JoeyFlex5]

he predicted us to go 5-11 with a ridiculously detailed analysis on it, of course hes trolling

[jimmypowder]

This thread topic is hilarious .

 

How can you have a second impression when you havent even had the first? 

[The Mom Gene]

I take it with the humor I believe it was intended to have on us here.... I'm just ready for the season to start.

[sflegend89]

I agree his speed is a little overrated by his 40 time. On the tape he looks good, and fast enough to still make defences worry, but I don't think he has the pure burning speed to take the top off defences that Torrey has. I'd certainly take his combination of size and speed over Torrey's, but I do think his speed is a little overblown and we may be disappointed when/if he doesn't become the deep superstar we want.

I also agree that his routes need work, but I think he's fluid enough that with the right coaching (touches wood), work ethic and staying healthy, I think he can become really good in time. As it is, I think he'll make a lot of his money in Trestman's scheme with someone else running clearout routes to spring him open on short to medium plays - with a few splash plays to keep DBs honest - and I think he'll do really well in that role.

The hands are a bit of a worry, but again I'm going to be optimistic and say I think they can be improved on.

 

Perriman's 40 time isn't overrated but the catch to that is a 40 is run in a straight line. Where Perriman doesn't live up to his 4.3 pedigree is moving laterally. If you look at a guy like Odell Beckham he ran a 4.4 but he has much more agility and lateral quickness than Perriman. 

 

It's a trade off though because Perriman is also a lot bigger than Beckham so you sacrifice agility/quickness for size/physicality. As far as running that 9 route which was Torrey's bread and butter, Perriman should be able to run it just as good if not better. He get's to use every bit of that 4.3 speed on that route because he is essentially running a 40, just a straight line with very little to no lateral movement at all. Then you add in the fact that he is bigger/taller than Torrey and is much better at high pointing/fighting for the ball and he makes for a very dangerous deep threat.  I totally disagree with saying Perriman "doesn't have pure burning speed to take the top off a defense like Torrey". As I pointed out, a 9 route is essentially a 40.

Edited September 8, 2015 by sflegend89

[HoldingCall]

This thread topic is hilarious .

 

How can you have a second impression when you havent even had the first? 

I'm with you on this one. It's a discussion about someone who hasn't been at practice since July. Lets allow him to heal first, if he can. And, whoever started the rumor about Perriman playing in the first game was likely trying to impact Denver's prep or enhance their bet.

[Cville-Raven]

This thread topic is hilarious .

How can you have a second impression when you havent even had the first?

Yeah I'm wondering the same thing.

[Cville-Raven]

he predicted us to go 5-11 with a ridiculously detailed analysis on it, of course hes trolling

Completely off the mark game by game analyses always make me laugh.

[JoeyFlex5]

why is everyone bashing the thread title and OP? jesus, this thread went up about a week after perriman was drafted, first impression meaning "impression during the draft process", second impression meaning "after you inevitably study up on him excessively because we drafted him, what is your impression now?" 

 

and if you would all just bother to read something you would see that. but suddenly because he is currently injured there has never been any impressions on the guy at all? i can tell you this, my first impression? not a good one, i heard he had dropsies and i didnt even bother to study up on him, after we drafted him though i went back and watched some film on him, and came up with a 2nd impression, that many of his hands concerns were way overblown and that his routes were raw but definitely fixable, so my 2nd impression was that he was a solid pick and his floor essentially appeared to be torreys ceiling. 

 

if you didnt have a first, then a second impression of breshad perriman at some point, then you likely dont follow the draft as avidly as many of the board members do. stop bashing the OP as if this is a brand new thread that came out after he got injured. its not his fault you all dont have the patience to get the premise of a thread before you start hammering away at your keyboards about how "hilarious" this thread is.

Edited September 8, 2015 by JoeyFlex5

[jimmypowder]

why is everyone bashing the thread title and OP? jesus, this thread went up about a week after perriman was drafted, first impression meaning "impression during the draft process", second impression meaning "after you inevitably study up on him excessively because we drafted him, what is your impression now?"

and if you would all just bother to read something you would see that. but suddenly because he is currently injured there has never been any impressions on the guy at all? i can tell you this, my first impression? not a good one, i heard he had dropsies and i didnt even bother to study up on him, after we drafted him though i went back and watched some film on him, and came up with a 2nd impression, that many of his hands concerns were way overblown and that his routes were raw but definitely fixable, so my 2nd impression was that he was a solid pick and his floor essentially appeared to be torreys ceiling.

if you didnt have a first, then a second impression of breshad perriman at some point, then you likely dont follow the draft as avidly as many of the board members do. stop bashing the OP as if this is a brand new thread that came out after he got injured. its not his fault you all dont have the patience to get the premise of a thread before you start hammering away at your keyboards about how "hilarious" this thread is.

Then it's even more hilarious . A second impression during a single draft . Lol

Tell you what , including the draft , I have no impressions of Breshad and neither do you .

He played one training camp practice or a part of that .

I have NO impressions , including the draft .

Tell you what , give me your impressions of Breshad as a Raven ?

I'm listening !

Edited September 8, 2015 by jimmypowder

[JoeyFlex5]

Then it's even more hilarious . A second impression during a single draft . Lol

Tell you what , including the draft , I have no impressions of Breshad and neither do you .

He played one training camp practice or a part of that .

I have NO impressions , including the draft .

ok so a player having never played a down in the NFL, means that there is no basis whatsoever to form an impression? then how do players get draft stock? why do players get selected in the top 5? why do these top prospects often live up to their draft status? oh idunno, maybe because scouts, analysts, and fans, all have formed an IMPRESSION of these players? you think maybe the loads of college game film out there can maybe be considered visual evidence of a players capabilities and a basis to form an impression? i certainly have an impression of perriman, i dont need to watch his entire rookie season play out to have an impression. and if you DONT have an impression of him, well thats not our problem that you have no clue how to watch player film. im just saying, theres no need to be condescending to the OP who posted a legitimate thread months ago. 

 

also, the first impression of perriman on these boards was nearly unanimous, big and fast WR with drop problems. is that not an impression? it certainly seems so to me. but go ahead, enlighten me as to what you consider an "impression".

[jimmypowder]

ok so a player having never played a down in the NFL, means that there is no basis whatsoever to form an impression? then how do players get draft stock? why do players get selected in the top 5? why do these top prospects often live up to their draft status? oh idunno, maybe because scouts, analysts, and fans, all have formed an IMPRESSION of these players? you think maybe the loads of college game film out there can maybe be considered visual evidence of a players capabilities and a basis to form an impression? i certainly have an impression of perriman, i dont need to watch his entire rookie season play out to have an impression. and if you DONT have an impression of him, well thats not our problem that you have no clue how to watch player film. im just saying, theres no need to be condescending to the OP who posted a legitimate thread months ago.

also, the first impression of perriman on these boards was nearly unanimous, big and fast WR with drop problems. is that not an impression? it certainly seems so to me. but go ahead, enlighten me as to what you consider an "impression".

You don't have a single impression oh him as a NFL Ravens player . Sorry that's a fact . Neither do I

Oh he's big and fast . Oh ok . How has his play been as a Raven ?

[JoeyFlex5]

You don't have a single impression oh him as a NFL Ravens player . Sorry that's a fact . Neither do I Oh he's big and fast . Oh ok . How has his play been as a Raven ?

i dont need an impression of him as a ravens NFL player. we didnt have an impression of dumervil or steve smith as a ravens NFL player either, only impressions as a broncos and panthers player, respectively, so whats your point?

 

was it any surprise that CJ mosley played as well as he did as a rookie? not even a little, because he had already made the IMPRESSION that he had football IQ through the roof and all the physical tools to go with it, anyone who watched him in college would tell you that without thinking twice. 

 

STL didnt have an impression of aaron bonald as an NFL player, but they had college tape that showed him as an absolutely dominant interior penetrator, his college tape left enough of an impression to have a LARGE number of people correctly predict him to become the DROY. 

 

OBJ had impressive college tape, it showed all the tools of an elite NFL WR, the athleticism, the refined technique, the burst, the lateral speed, the huge hands, the great body control, the unrivaled tenacity, the pursuit to the ball, literally his college tape showed EVERYTHING you want in a top flight WR, enough of an impression for many to correctly dub him the future OROY long before he ever played a NFL down. hell if it wasnt for college tapes and scouts getting a IMPRESSION from these tapes, then OBJ probably goes undrafted because he isnt 6'5"... but then again, thats why people actually WATCH this tape, to form impressions, and get evidence on the type of performance we can expect. 

 

but proceed, continue trying to explain how no amount of college game film can leave an impression on a scout or coach or a fan...

[52520Andrew]

why is everyone bashing the thread title and OP? jesus, this thread went up about a week after perriman was drafted, first impression meaning "impression during the draft process", second impression meaning "after you inevitably study up on him excessively because we drafted him, what is your impression now?"

This is pretty much hitting the nail on the head in terms of this whole topic title thing. Maybe it seems foreign to people who don't know who these guys are until they are taken but there is an entire draft section where people talk about the upcoming draft months in advance. Heck, you can go over there and talk about the draft next year right now. People kinda have their impressions on certain guys over months of watching them. And like you say, once a guy is drafted you look into them more because you want to see what they can do, maybe you look at them differently, maybe you learn something new. This thread has just been around for a good while now.

[JoeyFlex5]

This is pretty much hitting the nail on the head in terms of this whole topic title thing. Maybe it seems foreign to people who don't know who these guys are until they are taken but there is an entire draft section where people talk about the upcoming draft months in advance. Heck, you can go over there and talk about the draft next year right now. People kinda have their impressions on certain guys over months of watching them. And like you say, once a guy is drafted you look into them more because you want to see what they can do, maybe you look at them differently, maybe you learn something new. This thread has just been around for a good while now.

all of this 100% lol. so much animosity right now, and especially with perriman being hurt, and its getting to the point that mentioning his name will lead to keyboard rage from at least one person. the condescending tone in which this thread is being bashed is ridiculous and way out of context. 

 

i actually started the "never too early 2016 prospects" thread, from the day our season ends until the last night of the draft, i am all over the draft forums, not our problem that this guy doesnt pay a lick of attention to the draft and doesnt realize that we DO have impressions of players long before they are even drafted. hell i had an impression of CJ mosley becoming a dominant pro in his sophomore year because im a bama fan and watched him, i remember actually saying 3 years ago "man, i hope we can get him whenever he enters the draft, that would never happen though because hes gonna go too high". i knew 2 years ago that amari cooper was gonna go in the top 5 whenever he declared, and i believe derrick henry from alabama is the next in line to be a stud in the pros when he is drafted. those are definitely impressions i have formed of players, i dont need to see them in the NFL and play a whole season to know how i feel about them as prospects

[Free Agent]

I have no idea whats wrong with Perriman but I can say that for !00% certainty John Harbaugh knows exactly whats wrong with him and must think us complete idiots to buy his lame excuses. My guess is it's way more serious than any of us know and at this point have to believe he is a complete bust.

 

Odell Beckham Jr.

[Cville-Raven]

Odell Beckham Jr.

He thought he was a bust as well apparently.

[Moderator 3]

Seems this topic has run its course. Maybe we'll revisit it when it's time for third impressions.