[News] Late For Work 9/1: 'Disappointing' Ravens Wide Receiver Competition

[The Mom Gene]

I think the problem for us is that we just haven't seen much this preseason.  Not so sure that's a bad thing, but we are "running blind" on making predictions; as is the media.  Our starters have had very limited reps in the preseason.  Our backup QB hasn't been able to demonstrate much either...  hence our receivers not being able to show what THEY have.  And after that crummy play last Saturday, can you blame them pulling the starters???

[RavensFootballFan]

On a side note, congrats to Tyrod, beat #12/Pats twice. Hope to see you in playoffs. Best of luck.

[The Mom Gene]

I hear you, but Joe needs some established weapons that are young and dynamic besides Perriman and Steve Smtih Sr. don't you think? With Perriman being hurt, what's stopping us from trading for a really good WR talent from another team? Unless of course we are all lacking in the understanding of what Kamar Aiken, Marlon Brown and Camp really bring to the table. That is possible as well I suppose.

I think Aiken is established.  He did really well last year for the reps he got.  I didn't see him drop much.

Do you think another team is going to trade a really good WR to us???  I don't.  Not of the caliber you're speaking of anyway.

[The Mom Gene]

Prior to his injury, Perriman was as advertised. He doesn't need to be "out there" until he's healthy enough to do so. 

Agreed.

[Zeus]

I think the problem for us is that we just haven't seen much this preseason.  Not so sure that's a bad thing, but we are "running blind" on making predictions; as is the media.  Our starters have had very limited reps in the preseason.  Our backup QB hasn't been able to demonstrate much either...  hence our receivers not being able to show what THEY have.  And after that crummy play last Saturday, can you blame them pulling the starters???

I agree with you, good post

[The Mom Gene]

Prior to his injury, Perriman was as advertised. He doesn't need to be "out there" until he's healthy enough to do so. 

 

I watched him down here at UCF...  He was really good.  I wanted him a year ago.  I actually believe he'll be a huge improvement over Torrey.

[RavensFootballFan]

I think the problem for us is that we just haven't seen much this preseason.  Not so sure that's a bad thing, but we are "running blind" on making predictions; as is the media.  Our starters have had very limited reps in the preseason.  Our backup QB hasn't been able to demonstrate much either...  hence our receivers not being able to show what THEY have.  And after that crummy play last Saturday, can you blame them pulling the starters???

 

Exactly. I agree. On Sept 13th, I think Ravens WRs will prove their worth. 

[NCMan]

Training camp, preseason, and practices.

 

That's largely how most players, particularly non-starters, are evaluated. Its not a requirement to have every single person on the roster play with Joe in order to find out if they can play or not.

 

A requirement? No. But, the poster does have a valid point. All the Team can, and will do, is go w/what they've seen. That's why they make the big bux!!

[salamander]

Man, I could watch that Gillmore TD all day lol

 

Thanks TRX for adding the visual aid to my post about what can be achieved when you add mental toughness to physical ability. Gilmore's gutsy, determined run is a thing of beauty and awe inspiring. Gilmore has the potential to reach Gronk proportions.

[GO_Ravens]

We're fine at receiver we just need to get healthy. We do need to add a veteran defensive linemen for depth, however.

[RavensFootballFan]

Agreed.

 

Coming soon to a TV near you, of course in a Ravens uniform. As soon as he scores a TD like that, some Ravens fans will changed their stance on questioning Ozzie, calling it a brilliant pick once Perriman heals and is ready to go. lol 

[GO_Ravens]

It's so funny to see Gilmore break tackles like that cause he has that lazy demeanor which is why he absorbs those hits and on the other end of the stick he is big and powerful.

[tgc3rd]

You know you should rename this blog as the "Regurgitator of Useless Information". You guys quote media types that have no more insight than the average fan, like it came directly from the mouth of Ravens officials.

Don't you actually do some journalistic work for yourselves? After all you are with the team all the time.

If I wanted to read quotes from Jamison Hensley I would go to ESPN, which I refuse to do, since they are nothing more than a sports tabloid and do little reporting on their own. Just saying, how about a quote directly from the source instead.

[January J]

I actually feel good about top 6 WRs (SSS, Perriman, Camp, Aiken, Brown and Waller) The pre-season does not give an accurate picture of Ravens WRs. Snap count is limited, most of pre-season the offensive line was either hurt or starters pulled after brief appearances. No game planning (Keeping it basic and simple) which makes it easier for opposing defenses/cornerbacks. I think with all starters playing a full game, the WRs will do better under better protection and game planning. Joe proved it last year that the better the protection, the better he throws, no matter who is playing WR. We will definitely see better protection than we saw in pre-season. Using backup QBs under weaker protection is not a good barometer to know which receivers are good. While I would not be against adding a better WR who has been released. I still believe we are good at WR positions, only thing is I wished Perriman and Camp were not hurt, with them two playing alongside SSS, we can be much better at passing than last year.

took the words out my mouth. Trestman isn't calling the plays that we will be using come regular season. We don't want to show too much. We still haven't even seen camp on the feild with joe, and we still have perriman in our back pocket. I'm also confident in SSS and Aiken. Hopefully brown turns it up a notch when it counts, so far his performance has been pretty lackluster and he is the least intriguing receiver out of the 6/7 I expect us to keep. I still think he could be a dangerous redzone threat this season once we get going and actually start game planning. Overall I'm very pleased with the receiving corp as long as camp stays healthy and esp if we get breshad back for week 1.

[SUGGStobeDUMED]

It is astounding to me that we haven't really given Joe the potent weapons other QBs seem to have. An example being Matt Ryan - Julio Jones, etc., Andy Dalton - Green, etc., Ben Roethlisberger - Antonio Brown, etc. Come on front office, break the bank and make a trade for a #1 WR if necessary. Give Joe the tools to be successful.

 

I think it is for the same reason that Rodgers, Brady*, Peyton, and Brees are all throwing to no names..When your QB is that good, you can spend your money elsewhere on the team rather than spend big $ for the riskiest(mentally/boom-or-bust) position.

[Moderator 3]

You know you should rename this blog as the "Regurgitator of Useless Information". You guys quote media types that have no more insight than the average fan, like it came directly from the mouth of Ravens officials.

Don't you actually do some journalistic work for yourselves? After all you are with the team all the time.

If I wanted to read quotes from Jamison Hensley I would go to ESPN, which I refuse to do, since they are nothing more than a sports tabloid and do little reporting on their own. Just saying, how about a quote directly from the source instead.

This article IS a daily recap of what others are saying about our Ravens. It saves us the bother of visiting multiple websites to get the information. Most of us love this feature.

[January J]

Coming soon to a TV near you, of course in a Ravens uniform. As soon as he scores a TD like that, some Ravens fans will changed their stance on questioning Ozzie, calling it a brilliant pick once Perriman heals and is ready to go. lol

thank you!' I can see it now. Lotta people gonna be eatin their words. Patience ppl. Joes arm combined with this guys speed is going to be a thing of beauty. I promise you, just wait and see.

[January J]

Thanks TRX for adding the visual aid to my post about what can be achieved when you add mental toughness to physical ability. Gilmore's gutsy, determined run is a thing of beauty and awe inspiring. Gilmore has the potential to reach Gronk proportions.

I said that several times before training camp even began and was laughed at. Looks like it's already coming to life. I know it's only one play and it's a little premature to start throwing around titles but like joe said , this is just a little insight into what he can do. More coming soon.

[Darkraven23]

No love for jb i see well i love this young guy out of Tennessee martin he's talented can streak down the sideline and above all if given more time can make a difference n redzone now i know everyone is enthused with waller because he's big but if last saturday was an indication he can be stopped and he is still raw and we must consider the fact that he is similar to touch down tommy now as for perriman basically all he is a torrey smith clone he does nothing different he is a deep threat with a limited route tree and a genetic default right now and im not down on the guy just saying hold ur high hopes till he puts up 100 yards in a game or produce a 1000 yard season like torrey and finally camp is a good kid and i like his abilities but if these injuries continue the 7th round pick may be joining dennis pitta on ir

[The Mom Gene]

thank you!' I can see it now. Lotta people gonna be eatin their words. Patience ppl. Joes arm combined with this guys speed is going to be a thing of beauty. I promise you, just wait and see.

If he can do that stuff with Blake Bortles throwing him the ball..  Just imagine our man Joe.

[RavensFootballFan]

 

thank you!' I can see it now. Lotta people gonna be eatin their words. Patience ppl. Joes arm combined with this guys speed is going to be a thing of beauty. I promise you, just wait and see.

 

You nailed it, I completely agree patience is what is needed for Perriman. It will pay off. A football floating 60 - 70 yards in the air while the fastest man in the NFL snatches it and is long gone. Perriman is so fast that he will need the tunnel to slow down at end of the touchdown run. 

Edited September 1, 2015 by RavensFootballFan

[Darkraven23]

just a view up what butler can do

[The Mom Gene]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhHIvh2qwF8

 

This is the one that I wanted you all to see.......  We need to relax.......

That was for the conference championship...  It was a stunner with 4 seconds left and East Carolina was leading 30 - 26.  The Knights pulled off the win.  Thanks Breshad!!!!!​

[Purple Dawg 96]

"Disappointing Ravens Wide Receiver competition please "Don't believe the hype" and come game time it's on! If anybody think differently needs to have themselves CHECKED OUT!

[RavensFootballFan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhHIvh2qwF8

 

This is the one that I wanted you all to see.......  We need to relax.......

That was for the conference championship...  It was a stunner with 4 seconds left and East Carolina was leading 30 - 26.  The Knights pulled off the win.  Thanks Breshad!!!!!​

 

Oh man, if that happened during a Ravens games, I would lose my mind in pure joy.  lol  

[January J]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhHIvh2qwF8

This is the one that I wanted you all to see....... We need to relax.......

That was for the conference championship... It was a stunner with 4 seconds left and East Carolina was leading 30 - 26. The Knights pulled off the win. Thanks Breshad!!!!!​

so far what I've seen from him is beautiful ball tracking. And it shows in that clip. That's one thing we've been lacking for a long time and has hurt joe tremendously. He puts the ball where it needs to be but Torrey always either over ran the ball and tried to come back to it, or stutter stepped and never caught the ball " in stride". This will help with YAC. It also seems that breshad catches the ball at it's high point and snatches it out the air. Can't wait until him and joe build a rapport.

[dirtybird66]

I say we go ahead and trade PERRIMAN now,look's like OZZIE can't seclect a great reciever as we thought,I mean in the draft,he has good luck on established reciever's. CAMP and PERRIMAN will just sit on the sideline's with WEBB.

[rmcjacket23]

 

A requirement? No. But, the poster does have a valid point. All the Team can, and will do, is go w/what they've seen. That's why they make the big bux!!

What valid point? What's the solution to the problem?

 

As this particular thread has proven, a lot of fans base their assessment of what a player can do based on YouTube highlight videos from college, because the fans don't get to see even 10% of what the coaches see.

 

Naturally, when you actually get paid to evaluate players and make personnel decisions, you don't have the luxury of popping in a YouTube video and proclaiming "look at what this guy can do... HE'S A STUD". Why? Because there's literally a video like that for every single player who enters the NFL draft, and even one's who don't. The overwhelming majority of those players will never amount to anything in the NFL.

 

If you're a Darren Waller fan, chances are you'll defend him in many possible scenarios where you need to. If we say "o well he just hasn't gotten a chance to play with Joe", then we are all just making excuses for why he isn't performing. If he plays a series or two or even a game or two with Joe (which he has), we will say "o well the sample size just isn't big enough". When you like somebody based on their YouTube or College videos, you find reasons to justify why they aren't playing well.

 

Unfortunately, NFL coaches simply don't have that luxury. They don't have the ability to evaluate every player as if they were equal to somebody else who's already accomplished what they are attempting to accomplish. There isn't enough time or resources to do that.

 

That's why I typically don't play the "lets second guess the coaching staff's personnel decisions" game, because they have ALL the information we have and ALL the information we don't. They are exponentially more qualified to do what they do then all of us combined. If they determine that Jeremy Butler isn't good enough to make this team, then I trust that judgment more than I trust a boatload of fans posting YouTube videos from the past trying to show why they think they should make the team.

 

I'm not on that bandwagon.

[Fastynart]

For all the hoopla over wide receivers, it is a massive failure. Who, besides Steve Smith, is even worthy of starting? Perriman isn't now nor was he ever the answer. His "hands of stone" in college haven't gotten any better, and, now that he is injured, it is unlikely to improve should he return. Camanaro is a shame. They guy is good, but he can't stay healthy. I still think Marlon Brown is the best behind Smith, but he rarely gets a chance.

[ellicottraven]

Man, I could watch that Gillmore TD all day lol

 

As could I! In fact I watched it several times over just to see him swat that 'mosquito'!!!