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[News] Late For Work 9/1: 'Disappointing' Ravens Wide Receiver Competition

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I still believe... There are your three at the top of the page... and add in Waller, Brown and Campanaro... Those are my 6.

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Honeslty wasnt really impressed with Aiken or Brown thus far. Looking for SSS, BP, and Camp to steal the show. Waller is moving up the board as well

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The number of injuries already is troubling but the Ravens are not the only team to be hampered with this dilemma. Since statistics show that injuries have substantially increased over the past years league wide, maybe the NFL should seriously consider expanding the 53 man rosters by a few spots. I know that doesn't solve the problem itself of reducing injuries but perhaps its time that the NFL adjust the roster #'s and cap accordingly. Injury prevention efforts and research are worthwhile but the reality is that a good many of these injuries are bound to happen regardless.

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It is astounding to me that we haven't really given Joe the potent weapons other QBs seem to have. An example being Matt Ryan - Julio Jones, etc., Andy Dalton - Green, etc., Ben Roethlisberger - Antonio Brown, etc.

Come on front office, break the bank and make a trade for a #1 WR if necessary. Give Joe the tools to be successful.

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Steve Smith doesn't need the likes of Jamieson Hensley telling him he needs to keep his cool. His 'fight' Saturday was to make sure Washington knew the Ravens were tired of all the cheap shots. he surely wouldn't get thrown of a game in the regular season when the game was on the line. Hensley should just stick to sending out his begging tweets that attempt to get people to click thru to the Joe Flacco commercial link so he can earn his keep at ESPN.

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I was afraid this would happen to our WR corp.We should've signed a cheap vet to replace Torrey while the younger guys developed.I was never on the Kamar Aiken and Marlon Brown bandwagon and I never understood why so many people called it the deepest position on the team when it was our biggest weak spot.This WR corp as it is now isn't strong enough to make it to a SB.I hope Ozzie is strongly considering making a trade right now.

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Marlon Brown will fade away soon. Such a promising start. Not sure what really happened to him. Was really impressed by the snow grab against Vikings and excited. Dude doesn't show passion for the game. He might but at least it doesn't show on the field.

This year's receiving corps will suck.

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I think we need to create more TE packages for Crockett and Boyle. Those guys can ball and make some plays. Brown and Aiken just need to polish their route running. You have to sell the route which is what the best WO in the game does. Green, Juilo, Megatron, Dez, A.Brown.

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There's way too much overlap w/ the wr crew. Aiken, Brown and Butler save for a few inches in height here and there are essentially the same guy. All 3 are good at catching contested balls but don't get separation. They don't run crisp routes and seem slow on the field. Aiken has disappointed me the most because he was marketed to us as a really fast guy. I still haven't seen that 4.45 40 he supposedly ran at his pro day in real-time. He seems like a 4.5-4.6 guy like marlon and butler. 

 

SSS, campagnaro and perriman are 3 guys that i have confidence in. Perriman has elite speed and strength for his position and can stretch the field. SSS & campagnaro are really good route runners and have a ton of burst. I believe in waller's potential but it'll take some time for it to materialize into production. Since i believe this team will have 6 wr's, i'll take aiken and brown w/ the 4 i listed. Butler isn't needed on this team because he doesn't bring anything aiken and brown don't bring & has less experience than those 2. The 6 man receiving corps i picked isn't amazing but could be solid if healthy. Since perriman and camp are already dealing w/ injuries, the wr corps will be average at best w/ an above average option for flacco to lean on. If perriman and camp can't go, the TE crew will end up being the most important skill position group on this team.

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It is astounding to me that we haven't really given Joe the potent weapons other QBs seem to have. An example being Matt Ryan - Julio Jones, etc., Andy Dalton - Green, etc., Ben Roethlisberger - Antonio Brown, etc. Come on front office, break the bank and make a trade for a #1 WR if necessary. Give Joe the tools to be successful.

We drafted Breshad in the first round this year.  We really need to get him out there and see if he can be one of those guys.  We haven't been able to determine that yet.

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Ravens go ride of Jacoby Jones now they don't have a returner then they got rid of Torry and now the Ravens don't have a receiver. Does anyone have a PLAN?

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How can anyone judge the WR's from this preseason? Joe has barely played a quarter and most of the top tier WR's only saw limited action with Joe against 1st team defenses. I prefer to be optimistic that the first team will shine as the regular season games go into the second half and defenses wear down from the run and possession passing game.

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How can anyone judge the WR's from this preseason? Joe has barely played a quarter and most of the top tier WR's only saw limited action with Joe against 1st team defenses. I prefer to be optimistic that the first team will shine as the regular season games go into the second half and defenses wear down from the run and possession passing game.

Training camp, preseason, and practices.

 

That's largely how most players, particularly non-starters, are evaluated. Its not a requirement to have every single person on the roster play with Joe in order to find out if they can play or not.

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I love what Sarah writes, but I disagree on the wide receiver competition. A lot has been written about receivers standing out in practice and when Joe throws only so many passes in preseason and half of them are to SSS then its hard for anyone else to shine during these preseason games. Lest we forget, the backup is Matt Schaub and where he looked good against New Orleans second team, he has looked horrible the remaining games. How is a wide receiver who is only in the game with Schaub supposed to shine? I haven't given up on Marlon Brown or anyone else who is getting graded on passes thrown by Schaub. Over the last two years, who has Matt Schaub made look good? We want to grade these guys on their time in preseason games, even Babe Ruth couldn't hit home runs on pitches in the dirt, it just isn't going to happen. So before I put the final nail in the coffin of these receivers and say they aren't going to be anything, I will wait until about the 4th game which is when, with the limited work teams are allowed in the off-season, they are about where they would be if the preseason was what it used to be.

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So was Perriman and Asa the plan? Starting to look to me that those decisions was more personal cause right now no one has played better that the guys you replaced.

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We drafted Breshad in the first round this year.  We really need to get him out there and see if he can be one of those guys.  We haven't been able to determine that yet.

 

Prior to his injury, Perriman was as advertised. He doesn't need to be "out there" until he's healthy enough to do so. 

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Honeslty wasnt really impressed with Aiken or Brown thus far. Looking for SSS, BP, and Camp to steal the show. Waller is moving up the board as well

People want to make a big deal out of it, but those three, Forsett and Gillmore will be the teams top receivers. Everyone else is just complementary pieces.

Personally,with Waller playing so well recently I don't think it makes any sense to keep Brown. The only argument to keep him is he has played for the Ravens for a few years, and he had a good season, two years ago. He did nothing last season, he has been the underachiever in training camp,and during the preseason he has two catches and a pass interference call that cost the Ravens a touchdown.

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Butler is zero value added but then again Matt Scab can barely toss a ball over the LB's so its tough to gauge the WR's at this point.

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On the positive side, if our receivers can also mentally dial it up a notch and follow the lead of SSS, to understand that they need to seek some measure of the same mental intensity, focus and determination, it will go a long way to help these receivers succeed and play with more confidence.  All I'm saying is that playing tough and intense MENTALLY helps result in playing tough and intense PHYSICALLY. This is 1 area in each players individual control. We need to see that determination and extra effort throughout all of the receivers consistently in order to become the top notch offense we can be...and hope for.

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Congrats to Tyrod. He waited patiently for his opportunity and did what he needed to do to seize his moment. Good things come to those that wait...

Brown and Aiken have both not performed well in preseason, hopefully when the games start to count, that's when they start to turn it up. Or, The Wizard will have to make that move, get Joe another weapon.  

Watch out for Mr. Gillmore!       :help::268213:

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I was afraid this would happen to our WR corp.We should've signed a cheap vet to replace Torrey while the younger guys developed.I was never on the Kamar Aiken and Marlon Brown bandwagon and I never understood why so many people called it the deepest position on the team when it was our biggest weak spot.This WR corp as it is now isn't strong enough to make it to a SB.I hope Ozzie is strongly considering making a trade right now.

 

 

Which part of what I said was neg worthy?Did 2 people not agree with the idea of a trade?

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I don't expect any more of the receivers (at least any of the ones with a chance to make the roster) to be cut today, we've still got one game to decide who will get the last one or two spots. Although with Schaub at the helm I doubt anything will be decided.

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 the Crockett Gilmore TD (negated) are both examples of what can be achieved when the mental toughness is added to physical ability.

 

Man, I could watch that Gillmore TD all day lol

 

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We drafted Breshad in the first round this year.  We really need to get him out there and see if he can be one of those guys.  We haven't been able to determine that yet.

I hear you, but Joe needs some established weapons that are young and dynamic besides Perriman and Steve Smtih Sr. don't you think? With Perriman being hurt, what's stopping us from trading for a really good WR talent from another team? Unless of course we are all lacking in the understanding of what Kamar Aiken, Marlon Brown and Camp really bring to the table. That is possible as well I suppose.

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I actually feel good about top 6 WRs (SSS, Perriman, Camp, Aiken, Brown and Waller) The pre-season does not give an accurate picture of Ravens WRs. Snap count is limited, most of pre-season the offensive line was either hurt or starters pulled after brief appearances. No game planning (Keeping it basic and simple) which makes it easier for opposing defenses/cornerbacks. I think with all starters playing a full game, the WRs will do better under better protection and game planning. Joe proved it last year that the better the protection, the better he throws, no matter who is playing WR. We will definitely see better protection than we saw in pre-season. Using backup QBs under weaker protection is not a good barometer to know which receivers are good. While I would not be against adding a better WR who has been released. I still believe we are good at WR positions, only thing is I wished Perriman and Camp were not hurt, with them two playing alongside SSS, we can be much better at passing than last year.

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