[News] The Caw: Steve Smith Watches Game From Suite After Ejection

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Steve Smith Sr. got a taste of retired life after being thrown out of Saturday night's game.

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[cobrajet]

Robinson could have paralyzed Aiken for life. There is no place in the NFL for pile driving a players neck into the turf. How could you not be upset after a malicious act like that? This guy would have been fighting.

[The Mom Gene]

Robinson could have paralyzed Aiken for life. There is no place in the NFL for pile driving a players neck into the turf. How could you not be upset after a malicious act like that? This guy would have been fighting.

Agreed Cobra...  I'm furious.  that was completely unacceptable.

[January J]

SSS didn't even throw a punch. Can't believe he was ejected. He had already lit it up anyway with nearly 100 yards before the first quarter was even over. I thought the referees really ruined the momentum we had goin, even after the scuffle, we score a td on the very next play when Crockett bulldozed like 3 guys and made an awesome play and it's gets negated by a bs penalty. Atleast SSS got to watch the game with his kid! He really is gonna be on a rampage this season and it's started early.

Edited August 30, 2015 by January J

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

DAG-NABBIT I wish we could have had SSS play his whole career as a Raven. I am going to miss him after this season.

[thegooddoc456]

Getting ready to start my yearly fire Pees campaign. At some point he has to take some blame for this crappy defense....Pees does a good job of staying out of sight.

[Crusader]

I'm glade it happen. It force Joe to have to throw to other receivers

[Crusader]

Getting ready to start my yearly fire Pees campaign. At some point he has to take some blame for this crappy defense....Pees does a good job of staying out of sight.

I think a change is in order just like the Cam situation.

[Gorgee3]

One thing for sure Steve Smith Is polished

[Ravensfansince03]

Is it just me, or are a lot of young players coming into the league way more injury prone than their veteran counterparts.

[Ravensfansince03]

Getting ready to start my yearly fire Pees campaign. At some point he has to take some blame for this crappy defense....Pees does a good job of staying out of sight.

Pees can only work with what players Ozzie and the guys give him. Our first string defense is good, what is it that you don't like?

[Ravensfansince03]

I loved how Steve Smith jumped in asap to defend his teammates. When those players attacked Gilmore that wasn't football, that was violence. I wish more of our guys had of helped. Kudos to Marlon Brown, Kyle Juice, and Aiken for hanging in there to defend Gilmore.

[salamander]

The national media storylines are sensationalizing SSS getting in to a fight, which of course opens the door to SSS and the Ravens organization bashing, portrayed as "dirty, fighting player/team". It's amazing to me that the national headlines are not concerned enough with 1 of the most dangerous and vicious illegal tackles in recent years to make that issue the main focus. The main story should be the cause of the fight, not that several of Ravens players justifiably reacted. SSS in a shoving/shouting match without throwing a punch to me is a mild reaction given the circumstances. If they are looking for a story worth writing about, national headlines should be reporting on the complete disregard for player safety and focus on Robinson's disgusting head slamming illegal tackle which could have easily ended a player's career. Not to mention write about the refs who failed to even penalize the player and uphold the rules for player safety.

Edited August 30, 2015 by salamander

[Moderator 3]

The national media storylines are sensationalizing SSS getting in to a fight, which of course opens the door to SSS and the Ravens organization bashing, portrayed as "dirty, fighting player/team". It's amazing to me that the national headlines are not concerned enough with 1 of the most dangerous and vicious illegal tackles in recent years to make that issue the main focus. The main story should be the cause of the fight, not that several of Ravens players justifiably reacted. SSS in a shoving/shouting match without throwing a punch to me is a mild reaction given the circumstances. If they are looking for a story worth writing about, national headlines should be on complete disregard for player safety and focus on Robinson's disgusting head slamming illegal tackle which could have easily ended a player's career.

I agree. They need to focus more on this: http://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/819020

[bluehen]

Folks we don't want Steve injured, suspended or anything else, he is definitely miles ahead of our other wide receivers, without him it would not be pretty!

[salamander]

Unfortunately, my lip reading is not very good. Is anybody else out there dying to know what was actually said between Gruden and Harbs on the field? I know Gruden supposedly said something about getting off the field which prompted Harbs to respond? Tried unsuccessfully several times to watch replay of Harbs and read lips in what looked like a very colorful, enthusiastic and entertaining exchange. May have to bleep out every other word but "inquiring minds want to know". LOL

Edited August 30, 2015 by salamander

[thegooddoc456]

Pees can only work with what players Ozzie and the guys give him. Our first string defense is good, what is it that you don't like?

It's his entire philosophy on defense that I don't like. It's a very reactionary approach that doesn't believe in taking chances to force the offenses hand(and people wonder why turnovers are scarce), but would react to whatever offenses do and then try to limit it. Haloti even alluded to this when he got to Detroit. The ole' 'bend but don't break' aka let them move the ball up and down the field as long as they don't get the TD approach....anybody can pass on the Ravens in the middle of the field, we'll give you that, then hope to limit you to FGs in the red zone. 

   You might be right, it could be just the personnel, but I think it's a combination of both. We've had some success with this conservative approach, but when it really counts, down the stretch, when you absolutely need a stop in a close game, it has failed more often than not. 

[letitgosometimes]

Smith: One lesson in life you have not learned - even when you are in the right, you can be wronged. Keep your cool and focus because you are a part of the team that has a collective goal to make it to and win the Super Bowl.

[January J]

Smith: One lesson in life you have not learned - even when you are in the right, you can be wronged. Keep your cool and focus because you are a part of the team that has a collective goal to make it to and win the Super Bowl.

one lesson you must not have learned is you take up for your family. He was supporting his teammate who had just got piledrived. I would have done the same thing. And it's just preseason so it's not like we desperately needed him . He had already put on a show in the first 10 minutes of the game.

[The Mom Gene]

one lesson you must not have learned is you take up for your family. He was supporting his teammate who had just got piledrived. I would have done the same thing. And it's just preseason so it's not like we desperately needed him . He had already put on a show in the first 10 minutes of the game.

Absolutely... and that's why I had no problem with Harbaugh trying to corral the players, and be out there for and with the guys.

[The Mom Gene]

Amen Ryan, Amen... Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Postapocalypse Raven]

Steve Bisciotti needs to make Steve Smith an offer that he can't refuse. We really can't afford to lose this guy, and he's still got a few good years left.

[gooftroop]

The national media storylines are sensationalizing SSS getting in to a fight, which of course opens the door to SSS and the Ravens organization bashing, portrayed as "dirty, fighting player/team". It's amazing to me that the national headlines are not concerned enough with 1 of the most dangerous and vicious illegal tackles in recent years to make that issue the main focus. The main story should be the cause of the fight, not that several of Ravens players justifiably reacted. SSS in a shoving/shouting match without throwing a punch to me is a mild reaction given the circumstances. If they are looking for a story worth writing about, national headlines should be reporting on the complete disregard for player safety and focus on Robinson's disgusting head slamming illegal tackle which could have easily ended a player's career. Not to mention write about the refs who failed to even penalize the player and uphold the rules for player safety.

Absolutely right. No mention of the punch that was thrown at Gillmore that helped start the whole thing, either.

Edited August 30, 2015 by gooftroop

[bioLarzen]

The national media storylines are sensationalizing SSS getting in to a fight, which of course opens the door to SSS and the Ravens organization bashing, portrayed as "dirty, fighting player/team". It's amazing to me that the national headlines are not concerned enough with 1 of the most dangerous and vicious illegal tackles in recent years to make that issue the main focus. The main story should be the cause of the fight, not that several of Ravens players justifiably reacted. SSS in a shoving/shouting match without throwing a punch to me is a mild reaction given the circumstances. If they are looking for a story worth writing about, national headlines should be reporting on the complete disregard for player safety and focus on Robinson's disgusting head slamming illegal tackle which could have easily ended a player's career. Not to mention write about the refs who failed to even penalize the player and uphold the rules for player safety.

 

It's because Steve Smith has news value while Culliver, Aiken or that "mosquito" who piledrove him do not... The headline "Steve Smith ejected" will generate a ton of clicks - "Kamar Aiken bulldozed by <insert unfamiliar name here>" won't.

 

Sad but true. That's how online media works these days.

[bioLarzen]

Pees can only work with what players Ozzie and the guys give him. Our first string defense is good, what is it that you don't like?

 

Our first string D line is, indeed, great: the pass rushers, the tackles, ILB' etc. are doing a good job.

 

The secondary, however, have been suspiciously subpar. One of the main disappointments of the pre-season, in my eyes, have been Kendrick Lewis... He looked anything but "the captain of our secondary."

[PalmBayRaven]

Winning the game after that play would have been better. Now we just look like crybabies. Still not happy about how we went from dominating to humiliating in such short period of time? Yes, I drank the kool-aid and really believed we were a deep team. All those articles about our quality depth and how we were stacked. All lies. What quality? Where? Where has that quality showed up the last 2 weeks? Embarrassing losses even if they don't count are still embarrassing. Not so much that we lost but how we lost is more disturbing. Thought we were going to atone for last weeks debacle? Still not over it.

[salamander]

Absolutely right. No mention of the punch that was thrown at Gillmore that helped start the whole thing, either.

The refs totally messed up from the get go. I am still baffled at how Aiken ended up with an unnecessary roughness penalty. That's ironic. The guilty party, no flag. How did the victim get the flag? What could Aiken could have possibly done that was worse than the head slam he received, which was not worthy of a flag?  

Edited August 31, 2015 by salamander

[salamander]

It's because Steve Smith has news value while Culliver, Aiken or that "mosquito" who piledrove him do not... The headline "Steve Smith ejected" will generate a ton of clicks - "Kamar Aiken bulldozed by <insert unfamiliar name here>" won't.

 

Sad but true. That's how online media works these days.

For sure, SSS is the main attraction for clicks, I get that.  My complaint is that the media had a valid, attention getting, relevant story and topic they could have seized, yet they failed to report on the more important topic and generate enough uproar to certainly make the dangerous, outlawed, dirty tackle itself click worthy.

Edited August 30, 2015 by salamander

[Mad Scientist Too]

DAG-NABBIT I wish we could have had SSS play his whole career as a Raven. I am going to miss him after this season.

My thoughts exactly!!

[Ravensfansince03]

It's his entire philosophy on defense that I don't like. It's a very reactionary approach that doesn't believe in taking chances to force the offenses hand(and people wonder why turnovers are scarce), but would react to whatever offenses do and then try to limit it. Haloti even alluded to this when he got to Detroit. The ole' 'bend but don't break' aka let them move the ball up and down the field as long as they don't get the TD approach....anybody can pass on the Ravens in the middle of the field, we'll give you that, then hope to limit you to FGs in the red zone. 

   You might be right, it could be just the personnel, but I think it's a combination of both. We've had some success with this conservative approach, but when it really counts, down the stretch, when you absolutely need a stop in a close game, it has failed more often than not. 

 

Our main reasons for "failing on defense when it really counts" was really because of our banged up inexperienced secondary. Matt Elam was a bust, we had guys off the street playing safety beside him, and Jimmy was out as well as Webb. Almost any team would have success passing, it's a miracle we made it to the playoffs last season with the D secondary we had. There were plenty times where we blitz heavily just to have our secondary leave guys wide open in coverage. You have to have guys capable in the secondary to cover well if you want to blitz freely. That's what we had back in the Rex ryan days. Defense full of playmakers.

Edited August 31, 2015 by Ravensfansince03