its only preseason, but...

[JoeyFlex5]

is anyone else having a really hard time being confident in our upcoming season? this is the first time i have felt like this at the end of preseason since 09. i realize its preseason and there is rarely a correlation between it and regular season, but there are some very alarming things that has plagued this team in the past and continues to plague us heading into the season.. 

 

1) wanna beat the ravens? just wait til the end of the half. 

2) i cant even feel any excitement watching a game, like none at all, i just feel almost nauseous thinking about what major player is gonna get injured next. 

3) the same things that ended our season last year, and things that have actually played a major role in ending most of our seasons since 08, these issues still seem to be very visible(not defending a single pass or getting any pressure at all when we are protecting a lead) 

4) how can such a dominant ground game, lead to such a horrible redzone offense? 

5) it feels like we either have a 12 play 80 yard drive, or we will get 3 consecutive pre-snap penalties followed by consecutive sacks and punt on 4th and forever, there doesnt seem to be much middle ground(that may have just been from schaub this week though) 

 

this is just the first time in many years that i just dont feel good about the upcoming season. until we can find a way to keep our players from dropping like flies, and until our dbs learn to defend a pass when we have a lead, then it will be hard to keep the faith for this season. 

 

although when this team is healthy, i think were a top 3 team in the league, and if we can manage to get a full roster come playoff time, it just seems like such an impossible task to keep this team even relatively healthy.

[TheRavenouseD2008]

I can not agree more ...... on top of that it seems our preseason was a list of lets play the dirtiest nfc teams imaginable and see if we can cut the roster that way ......

[Tru11]

its pre season.

 

nothing to worry about.

 

lions went 4-0 in the pre season and people where talking play offs and they ended up going 0-16.

 

pre season is designed to determine which of the fringe players are going to make the roster and who is going to get cut.

its not for showing what you will be running in the regular season.

 

both the starting offense and defense looked good so i dont think we have to panic at all.

 

injuries are part of the game and if you cant overcome them then you dont deserve to be crowned champion.

 

unless we loose flacco, steve smith, forsett,yanda,suggs, doom, tucker or jimmy ,  i dont see any reason to be worried.

[Sami84]

its pre season.

 

nothing to worry about.

 

lions went 4-0 in the pre season and people where talking play offs and they ended up going 0-16.

 

pre season is designed to determine which of the fringe players are going to make the roster and who is going to get cut.

its not for showing what you will be running in the regular season.

 

both the starting offense and defense looked good so i dont think we have to panic at all.

 

injuries are part of the game and if you cant overcome them then you dont deserve to be crowned champion.

 

unless we loose flacco, steve smith, forsett,yanda,suggs, doom, tucker or jimmy ,  i dont see any reason to be worried.

 

Might not make any difference this year but i think with our pass rush woes and other needs going into next year I think picking up Aldon Smith and trying to rehab him would not be a bad idea ( esp with suggs and dooms age)

[K-Dog]

Meh. Lets get a good three or four games into the regular season first. When games actually matter.

[jazz1988]

Well we did go to the playoff in 09  so can't call that a unsuccessful season but of course every team wants to go to the super bowl and win.

[Florida Ravens Fan]

The secondary will be our achilles again this year. I dont think Melvin as our #2 will cut it. Webb hasn't played or practiced and if he starts against the Broncos he will struggle. I honestly think he's done.

[03tsal]

On top of the fact that our secondary once again sucks, our offensive line is now a problem too.  I don't expect the Ravens to make the playoffs unless they shore up those positions.  BTW, Shuab isn't worth half the money we paid for him.

Edited August 30, 2015 by 03tsal

[RedFire]

Might not make any difference this year but i think with our pass rush woes and other needs going into next year I think picking up Aldon Smith and trying to rehab him would not be a bad idea ( esp with suggs and dooms age)

 

 

Aldon Smith is not a dude with a bad habit....he abuse substance until he blacks out. Last thing we need for him to come here and get into an altercation with a female at power plant live and have a ray rice situation. he would have to have a clause to stay away from women cause he can be a lose cannon around a man all he wants and it will be a non issue. 

Edited August 30, 2015 by RedFire

[beanfigger]

Aldon Smith is not a dude with a bad habit....he abuse substance until he blacks out. Last thing we need for him to come here and get into an altercation with a female at power plant live and have a ray rice situation. he would have to have a clause to stay away from women cause he can be a lose cannon around a man all he wants and it will be a non issue.

Until he gets a DUI with illegal firearms in the car while he calls in a bomb threat to the airport. When did this become a woman issue? This dude has 99 problems, but...

[757RavensFan]

The starting offense and defense had a good showing 2 out of 3 games so far, I'm not too concerned.

[52N19]

i agree there is reason for concern. short of steve smith i don;t know who we throw the ball to. in addition, if you can't get pressure on the qb you can't win. its almost not worth having a secondary. the league won;t even let you breathe hard on a receiver.

 

the reason for this pessimism is due to our 2015 schedule. it is difficult in opponents and both travel and night games scheduled. 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Until he gets a DUI with illegal firearms in the car while he calls in a bomb threat to the airport. When did this become a woman issue? This dude has 99 problems, but...

your joke is one. I had to.

I will say this again. It's freaking preseason. We will get pressure on the QB. We've been hit by the injury bug thus far. Thank god that there haven't been any catastrophic injuries(*knocks on wood*) that might cost us our season. Our starters were kicking tail and then boom. Our depth lost it. We're young, it's inevitable.

[redrum52]

Until he gets a DUI with illegal firearms in the car while he calls in a bomb threat to the airport. When did this become a woman issue? This dude has 99 problems, but...

I see what you did there

[balfan23]

I'm not coming unglued over our lack of pass rush at this point. I don't think we're going full motor in these preseason games and I think the pass rush will be better than what we've been seeing. The loss of McPhee will hurt. Upshaw simply will never be that kind of edge rusher. Smtih is not ready for prime time - too raw and undisciplined to see many snaps. We have to rely on Suggs and Doom there. 

 

Jernigan playing more snaps should give us a boost he's a very good pass rusher for an interior lineman. Let's just hope he's healthy ... It would be nice to be able to throw some blitz packages in, but I think our secondary is going to make us apprehensive to go there. In the end, I think you have to go after them though - guys will get open if the QB has too much time, so you may as well look to hit him. 

[balfan23]

Of course, the secondary is the big concern. The hope that Webb will be on the field and regain his old form is fading fast. Melvin is improving, but at this point is not really starter quality IMO. Arrington is OK in the slot, but hasn't had a lot of success on the outside.

 

Despite glowing reports out of camp, Lewis has not been impressive. Jimmy and Will are currently the only guys playing well in the secondary and that's not enough to get it done - certainly not when we play effective pass offenses. I'm just not sure what the answer is. I don't see us getting any sort of an upgrade off the NFL scrap heap when cuts start happening. Also, teams don't generally have an abundance of starter-quality CBs just lying around waiting to be traded.

 

As it stands, we may have to hope Melvin improves, Webb gets healthy and that either Lewis pulls it together or Brooks gets up to speed quickly and takes his job ... but hope is never a good strategy. 

[January J]

I'm not concerned in the least. I actually am the opposite of concerned. I'm genuinely excited for this team and I think we can go a long way if we can put it all together. We have a lot of young talent that needs to develop. Health is always a concern , but again that's with every team. Our first team pretty much dominated on both sides of the ball, things didn't really fall apart until Schaub and the 2nd team came in... And I contribute that partially to the referees. Not to mention we are still without some of our best players. K.O. Camp , perriman, Webb, Maxx . Once we get these guys back we will be a force to be reckoned with. If you can't get excited watching a ravens game I'm sorry but that' sounds like a personal issue. I get absolutely pumped. The preseason gets a little agitating for many different reasons and it sometime causes you to forget how good this team actually is, but once the season starts hopefully you will feel better about things. Bc I'm absolutely optimistic and I think we have an extremely good chance to win the north and host a playoff game.

[FlackAttack]

is anyone else having a really hard time being confident in our upcoming season? this is the first time i have felt like this at the end of preseason since 09. i realize its preseason and there is rarely a correlation between it and regular season, but there are some very alarming things that has plagued this team in the past and continues to plague us heading into the season.. 

 

1) wanna beat the ravens? just wait til the end of the half. 

2) i cant even feel any excitement watching a game, like none at all, i just feel almost nauseous thinking about what major player is gonna get injured next. 

3) the same things that ended our season last year, and things that have actually played a major role in ending most of our seasons since 08, these issues still seem to be very visible(not defending a single pass or getting any pressure at all when we are protecting a lead) 

4) how can such a dominant ground game, lead to such a horrible redzone offense? 

5) it feels like we either have a 12 play 80 yard drive, or we will get 3 consecutive pre-snap penalties followed by consecutive sacks and punt on 4th and forever, there doesnt seem to be much middle ground(that may have just been from schaub this week though) 

 

this is just the first time in many years that i just dont feel good about the upcoming season. until we can find a way to keep our players from dropping like flies, and until our dbs learn to defend a pass when we have a lead, then it will be hard to keep the faith for this season. 

 

although when this team is healthy, i think were a top 3 team in the league, and if we can manage to get a full roster come playoff time, it just seems like such an impossible task to keep this team even relatively healthy.

 

Smh

 

1) our starters are benched at the end of the half

2) its preseason

3) ive been saying all offseason and only now people are agreeing with me, kyle arrington, kendrick lewis and rashaad melvin are not the answer to our secondary

4) buck allen sucks, we need taliafero back asap

5) its preseason

[JoeyFlex5]

Well we did go to the playoff in 09  so can't call that a unsuccessful season but of course every team wants to go to the super bowl and win.

im saying going into 09, it was flacco and harbs 2nd season and there was much reason for optimism, basically this is the first time since flacco and harbs have proven themselves, that im not feeling confident. 

 

 

its pre season.

 

nothing to worry about.

 

lions went 4-0 in the pre season and people where talking play offs and they ended up going 0-16.

 

pre season is designed to determine which of the fringe players are going to make the roster and who is going to get cut.

its not for showing what you will be running in the regular season.

 

both the starting offense and defense looked good so i dont think we have to panic at all.

 

injuries are part of the game and if you cant overcome them then you dont deserve to be crowned champion.

 

unless we loose flacco, steve smith, forsett,yanda,suggs, doom, tucker or jimmy ,  i dont see any reason to be worried.

i dont need a detailed description as im fully aware of exactly what preseason is. but we scored one touchdown, and after that we settled for field goals the rest of the half, and with virtually our whole starting defense on the field we gave up 2 consecutive touchdowns to close out the half, it has ALWAYS been a problem for this team and it looks like it still is a problem. 

 

and that list of players... what makes you think they will make it through the season healthy? forsett has a injury history, yanda has played through injuries basically every year and all it takes is for one to be severe, suggs and doom were healthy together last year but we know thats pretty much an anomaly, and jimmy ends up on the injured list more often than not. not to mention there are plenty of other players that will represent another nail in the coffin if they end up on IR, like hmm lets say... jernigan, who had a pretty ugly knee injury last night, or our entire OL who not only has a injury history, but they are extremely banged up right now and we dont even know who were gonna be able to start in week 1. 

 

 

Smh

 

1) our starters are benched at the end of the half

2) its preseason

3) ive been saying all offseason and only now people are agreeing with me, kyle arrington, kendrick lewis and rashaad melvin are not the answer to our secondary

4) buck allen sucks, we need taliafero back asap

5) its preseason

Smh 

 

1) we gave up 2 td's back to back with what was nearly our starting defense, it really wasnt that far off, and with our injury history dont be surprised to see our starting defense looking like that in mid season 

2) so because its preseason we cant worry about injuries, and the same secondary problems that have plagued this team for years? 

3) so you are trying to reiterate over and over that its preseason and there is no reason to worry, then turn around and agree that our secondary sucks, and ozzie addressed it in the wrong way.. but please, enlighten us on how you would have saved our secondary 

4) hes a rookie, and he played solid up until last night. you cant judge a rb based off of his production when playing with a patchwork OL consisting of guys that the coaches basically hope never see the field

[FlackAttack]

im saying going into 09, it was flacco and harbs 2nd season and there was much reason for optimism, basically this is the first time since flacco and harbs have proven themselves, that im not feeling confident. 

 

 

i dont need a detailed description as im fully aware of exactly what preseason is. but we scored one touchdown, and after that we settled for field goals the rest of the half, and with virtually our whole starting defense on the field we gave up 2 consecutive touchdowns to close out the half, it has ALWAYS been a problem for this team and it looks like it still is a problem. 

 

and that list of players... what makes you think they will make it through the season healthy? forsett has a injury history, yanda has played through injuries basically every year and all it takes is for one to be severe, suggs and doom were healthy together last year but we know thats pretty much an anomaly, and jimmy ends up on the injured list more often than not. not to mention there are plenty of other players that will represent another nail in the coffin if they end up on IR, like hmm lets say... jernigan, who had a pretty ugly knee injury last night, or our entire OL who not only has a injury history, but they are extremely banged up right now and we dont even know who were gonna be able to start in week 1. 

 

 

Smh 

 

1) we gave up 2 td's back to back with what was nearly our starting defense, it really wasnt that far off, and with our injury history dont be surprised to see our starting defense looking like that in mid season 

2) so because its preseason we cant worry about injuries, and the same secondary problems that have plagued this team for years? 

3) so you are trying to reiterate over and over that its preseason and there is no reason to worry, then turn around and agree that our secondary sucks, and ozzie addressed it in the wrong way.. but please, enlighten us on how you would have saved our secondary 

4) hes a rookie, and he played solid up until last night. you cant judge a rb based off of his production when playing with a patchwork OL consisting of guys that the coaches basically hope never see the field

 

As an amateur NFL fan, it seems, you are complaining about what our 2nd and 3rd strings do during preseason. dude, its preseason.

Edited August 30, 2015 by The Mom Gene
less harsh

[Tru11]

im saying going into 09, it was flacco and harbs 2nd season and there was much reason for optimism, basically this is the first time since flacco and harbs have proven themselves, that im not feeling confident. 

 

 

i dont need a detailed description as im fully aware of exactly what preseason is. but we scored one touchdown, and after that we settled for field goals the rest of the half, and with virtually our whole starting defense on the field we gave up 2 consecutive touchdowns to close out the half, it has ALWAYS been a problem for this team and it looks like it still is a problem. 

 

and that list of players... what makes you think they will make it through the season healthy? forsett has a injury history, yanda has played through injuries basically every year and all it takes is for one to be severe, suggs and doom were healthy together last year but we know thats pretty much an anomaly, and jimmy ends up on the injured list more often than not. not to mention there are plenty of other players that will represent another nail in the coffin if they end up on IR, like hmm lets say... jernigan, who had a pretty ugly knee injury last night, or our entire OL who not only has a injury history, but they are extremely banged up right now and we dont even know who were gonna be able to start in week 1. 

 

 

Smh 

 

1) we gave up 2 td's back to back with what was nearly our starting defense, it really wasnt that far off, and with our injury history dont be surprised to see our starting defense looking like that in mid season 

2) so because its preseason we cant worry about injuries, and the same secondary problems that have plagued this team for years? 

3) so you are trying to reiterate over and over that its preseason and there is no reason to worry, then turn around and agree that our secondary sucks, and ozzie addressed it in the wrong way.. but please, enlighten us on how you would have saved our secondary 

4) hes a rookie, and he played solid up until last night. you cant judge a rb based off of his production when playing with a patchwork OL consisting of guys that the coaches basically hope never see the field

 

if you knew what pre season is about why make this thread?

 

seems to me like you are in panic mode for no apparent reason.

 

like i said IF any of those guys i listed goes down then it might be time to panic, until then there is no reason.

 

i see no point at all worrying about something that might or might not happen.

 

also i seriously wonder how you can place jernigan importance on the same level as guys like flacco lol.

 

the kid showed some promise but he hasn't done anything yet to make him irreplaceable.

 

personally i think you are just overreacting.

[JoeyFlex5]

As an amateur NFL fan, it seems, you are complaining about what our 2nd and 3rd strings do during preseason. dude, its preseason.

once again, 2 touchdowns back to back to close the half, we do it all the time in the regular season, with our starters, we are showing the same problems this preseason. those back to back touchdowns was a solid mix of our starting defense with a few backups, it wasnt like we were fielding guys who werent gonna play, melvin, arrington, lewis, brooks, those guys might as well be starters, and they got abused by colt mccoy and the redskins for 2 straight touchdowns, those guys are gonna see a high snap count for us this season, and thats not a good sign of things to come, especially when we have seen year after year our STARTING defense falling apart in the 2 minute drill

[JoeyFlex5]

if you knew what pre season is about why make this thread?

 

seems to me like you are in panic mode for no apparent reason.

 

like i said IF any of those guys i listed goes down then it might be time to panic, until then there is no reason.

 

i see no point at all worrying about something that might or might not happen.

 

also i seriously wonder how you can place jernigan importance on the same level as guys like flacco lol.

 

the kid showed some promise but he hasn't done anything yet to make him irreplaceable.

 

personally i think you are just overreacting.

well i have already explained myself over and over as to why i feel there is cause for concern. preseason or not, we have seen our STARTING defense give up tocuhdown drives to close out the half/game over and over, so why should we see the exact same thing play out for 3 weeks straight in the preseason and just disregard it like its a non issue, when we know for a fact that it IS and issue. 

 

stop being delusional, this defense falling apart in the 2 minute drill is a very real issue and it cant just be brushed off as "its preseason" because we have lost many real games due to this exact problem.

[FlackAttack]

if you knew what pre season is about why make this thread?

 

seems to me like you are in panic mode for no apparent reason.

 

like i said IF any of those guys i listed goes down then it might be time to panic, until then there is no reason.

 

i see no point at all worrying about something that might or might not happen.

 

also i seriously wonder how you can place jernigan importance on the same level as guys like flacco lol.

 

the kid showed some promise but he hasn't done anything yet to make him irreplaceable.

 

personally i think you are just overreacting.

 

^^^ 100% agree with jernigan. the guy has yet to prove himself as anything more than an average DL, tweaks something and people act like the sky is falling. its amazing how hysterical some ravens fans get, even before the regular season starts.

Edited August 30, 2015 by FlackAttack

[Tru11]

well i have already explained myself over and over as to why i feel there is cause for concern. preseason or not, we have seen our STARTING defense give up tocuhdown drives to close out the half/game over and over, so why should we see the exact same thing play out for 3 weeks straight in the preseason and just disregard it like its a non issue, when we know for a fact that it IS and issue. 

 

stop being delusional, this defense falling apart in the 2 minute drill is a very real issue and it cant just be brushed off as "its preseason" because we have lost many real games due to this exact problem.

 

list all the games we lost which the sole blame lies on the 2 minute drill alone.

 

lets see who is delusional and who isn't.

 

im pretty confident i can look back at any game you list and find at least 1 other aspect that also contributed to a loss.

im pretty sure that in most of our losses we suffered at least 1 turnover.

 

but go ahead and just try and pin the loss on 1 particular drive, ill wait.

[Tru11]

^^^ 100% agree with jernigan. the guy has yet to prove himself as anything more than an average DL, tweaks something and people act like the sky is falling. its amazing how hysterical some ravens fans get, even before the regular season starts.

 

yup.

 

i seriously don't see why people are panicking.

 

if this was 3 games into the regular season then yeah , i might start panicking but this is pre season lol.

 

little to no game planning.

vanilla offense and defense.

 

coaches trying players/line ups/formations out.

coaches keeping players out of the game or only limited snaps and such.

 

the only thing i can take away from pre season is who might make the team and who might not.

[JoeyFlex5]

list all the games we lost which the sole blame lies on the 2 minute drill alone.

 

lets see who is delusional and who isn't.

 

im pretty confident i can look back at any game you list and find at least 1 other aspect that also contributed to a loss.

im pretty sure that in most of our losses we suffered at least 1 turnover.

 

but go ahead and just try and pin the loss on 1 particular drive, ill wait.

you can never pin 1 loss on one particular drive, there are mistakes all throughout every game that typically add up to a loss in the end, doesnt mean that giving up touchdowns on the 2 minute drill isnt a huge factor in those losses. but ill entertain you and point out losses that came as a result of giving up long touchdown drives while protecting a lead(not EXCLUSIVELY in a 2 minute drill, but trying to close out a game or a half when we have the lead) 

 

2014

divisional round against the patriots 

home loss to the chargers 

both losses to the bengals  

 

2013 

giving up a game losing drive to the bears in 2 plays in OT 

giving up a game losing drive to the steelers in 2 plays in the 4th 

letting the packers march downfield to burn up the clock when our offense was hot and we were down by 2 

 

2012 

the loss to the redskins 

the loss to the eagles 

the loss to the steelers 

 

go ahead and argue that these arent specifically 2 minute drills, i know youre going to, but that would be missing the point. 

the point is, that this team has struggled for years to protect a close lead, if we are up by 2, we give up big plays leading to a field goal, if we are up by 4, we give up a long drive for a TD. this defense can dominate for 55 minutes of a game, but it struggles horribly in crunchtime, and i dont know how you can argue that.

[RavensFanMania]

Smh

 

1) our starters are benched at the end of the half

2) its preseason

3) ive been saying all offseason and only now people are agreeing with me, kyle arrington, kendrick lewis and rashaad melvin are not the answer to our secondary

4) buck allen sucks, we need taliafero back asap

5) its preseason

1) we haven't even gone a 1 1/2 qtrs. 

2) Agree completely, but I don't ever want to lose to the Skins...lol

3) agree

4) too early to call on this.  I want to see Allen with the starters on a consistent basis with a true gameplan

5) I'll 2nd, 3rd, and 4th this comment

[Tru11]

you can never pin 1 loss on one particular drive, there are mistakes all throughout every game that typically add up to a loss in the end, doesnt mean that giving up touchdowns on the 2 minute drill isnt a huge factor in those losses. but ill entertain you and point out losses that came as a result of giving up long touchdown drives while protecting a lead(not EXCLUSIVELY in a 2 minute drill, but trying to close out a game or a half when we have the lead) 

 

2014

divisional round against the patriots 

home loss to the chargers 

both losses to the bengals  

 

2013 

giving up a game losing drive to the bears in 2 plays in OT 

giving up a game losing drive to the steelers in 2 plays in the 4th 

letting the packers march downfield to burn up the clock when our offense was hot and we were down by 2 

 

2012 

the loss to the redskins 

the loss to the eagles 

the loss to the steelers 

 

go ahead and argue that these arent specifically 2 minute drills, i know youre going to, but that would be missing the point. 

the point is, that this team has struggled for years to protect a close lead, if we are up by 2, we give up big plays leading to a field goal, if we are up by 4, we give up a long drive for a TD. this defense can dominate for 55 minutes of a game, but it struggles horribly in crunchtime, and i dont know how you can argue that.

 

if the defense dominates for 55 minutes it should not be a 1 score game.

the only way its a 1 score game is if the offense sucked for 55 minutes.

 

that is a fundamental point you are missing.

 

you simply cant blame a loss on 1 particular drive.

 

both teams have numerous drives through out a game and if both the offense and defense play great , chances are you will have a comfortable lead when the 2 minute mark approaches in the 4th quarter.

 

lets walk through those games:

2014 

pats game, flacco had 2 picks which affected the outcome,  owen danies had a crucial drop on perfect pass by flacco that should have been a TD and widen the score, refs blew 1 drive where pats did the ineligble receiver stuff.

 

quite frankly we still could have won this game if flacco did not throw that last int or at least had a shot if jacoby did not decided to dance wasting time on his return prior to our last possession.

not sure what 2 minute drill you are referring to TBH.

 

charges game

 

we where kicking FGs instead of getting touchdowns.

still could have won this game since all we needed was a FG but jacoby fumbled the KR which lost us time and yardage.

also did not help the coach wasted a TO on our second to last possesion cause they wanted to go for it on 4th down but then backed out of it.

 

1st bengals game

 

what 2 minute drive you talking about?

every drive the bengals had with possession of less then 2 min ended in a punt.

also did not help that the defense was holding the bengals to FGs while the offense was punting or turning the ball over for 3/4 of the game.

 

2nd bengals game

 

flacco had 0 TD and threw 2 picks but lets blame the defense lol.

certainly did not help he also threw 4 incompletions on our last drive that sealed the game....

 

2013

 

bears game

you mean the game where flacco threw 2 picks and the offense only managed a FG on 5 drives in the 2nd half?

the same where the ravens got the ball first in OT but failed to produce anything ?

you do know 1 of the bears 2 TDs was a pick 6 right?

 

packers game

 

ravens defense held rodgers to 6 points in the 1st half , offense had a whopping 0 points to counter that effort.

heck the offense managed just 3 points in the first 3 quarters lol.

defense kept the best QB in football to 16 points in that same time span and only allowed 19 points in total.

this should not have been a close game if the offense wasn't MIA through out the first 3 quarters.

 

steelers game

same story.

offense managed 6 points in 3 quarters.

thats 45 minutes of football where the offense was pure trash but yeah lets just blame the defense for playing bad for 2 minutes lol

 

if the offense actually showed up for the whole game instead of just 2 drives in the 4th quarter , these games would have been won with the way the defense held up for most of the game.

 

2012

eagles game

 

uhh we had the ball with 2 minutes left and failed to score.

how you wanna blame this on the defense?

defense forced 4 turnovers while the offense had 2.

 

id love to hear how you can blame the defense for this 1 lol

 

skins game

 

we had 2 turnovers + we had the ball first in OT.

worst play was the big punt return by the skins after the offense was forced to punt which set up the game winner for the skins...

 

steelers game.

what 2 min drive are you talking about?

this game seemed lost because our last 3 possessions where punt , fumble , punt.

dont think thats how you close out a game  lol.

 

 

TBH the only game where you might have a point was the 2014 chargers game.

 

all other games it appears you are deliberately turning a blind eye to the picks flacco threw ( no surprise there), you fail to mention the lack of offense for pretty much most of the game and most don't even qualify for 2 minute offense failures lol

 

it appears you are so delusional your mind is blocking out stuff and you appear to have no clue what 2 minute drills are....

 

a 7 minute drive is not a 2 minute drill.....

[JoeyFlex5]

just like i predicted, instead of trying to make an argument that our defense has NOT historically blown close leads(when they obviously have), you argue semantics. 

 

our offense has had its fair share of hiccups, but if we have a lead in the 4th quarter, we should still be able to protect that lead, and we cant.