Perriman is NOT eligible for the PUP list!

[757RavensFan]

Sorry mods, it deserves a separate post, but merge if necessary. 

 

I'm constantly seeing forum members say put Perriman on the PUP list while he recovers.  

Unfortunately, he's not eligible for the PUP list since he participated in training camp. 

A player that practices at ANY time during training camp is ineligible for the PUP list. 

Perriman injured his leg on July 30th, the FIRST day of training camp, making him

ineligible to be placed on the PUP list.  

 

Pitta and Brooks were placed on the PUP list on July 26th a few day before the start of training camp.  Luckily for us, Brooks was removed from the PUP and now practicing.   

[Tenacious Faulker]

He's disappointing and I was looking forward to seeing what he could do.  However, its not the end of the world and I doubt his condition/injury needs to be on the PUP DFR.  I really hope its not a matter of toughness or desire to play.  That would be a horrible revelation.  Barring that I'm guessing he'll be ready to play (maybe not start) week 1 or 2.  I hope. 

[FlackAttack]

He's disappointing and I was looking forward to seeing what he could do.  However, its not the end of the world and I doubt his condition/injury needs to be on the PUP DFR.  I really hope its not a matter of toughness or desire to play.  That would be a horrible revelation.  Barring that I'm guessing he'll be ready to play (maybe not start) week 1 or 2.  I hope. 

 

Questioning Perrimans desire to play at this point is silly and premature.

[polynesian15]

Do we know if he's staying active in the gym lifting weights etc.?
Or is he abstaining from all physical activity (besides walking)?

If the latter is the case, then we probably shouldn't expect him back until midseason. Being inactive like that does no favors for athletic traits such as strength, speed and durabilty. 

[1/28/01]

Do we know if he's staying active in the gym lifting weights etc.?

Or is he abstaining from all physical activity (besides walking)?

If the latter is the case, then we probably shouldn't expect him back until midseason. Being inactive like that does no favors for athletic traits such as strength, speed and durabilty.

My guess is he (a professional athlete) isn't sitting on the sofa eating doritos all day. He should be in just as good of shape as he was a month ago.

[K-Dog]

IR-designated to return might be a waste too...

[sflegend89]

He's disappointing and I was looking forward to seeing what he could do.  However, its not the end of the world and I doubt his condition/injury needs to be on the PUP DFR.  I really hope its not a matter of toughness or desire to play.  That would be a horrible revelation.  Barring that I'm guessing he'll be ready to play (maybe not start) week 1 or 2.  I hope. 

 

He's disappointing because he got injured? ...This is the NFL, it comes with the territory, the baddest dudes in the league get injured.  Not producing on the field is "disappointing", missing time with an injury is just part of the game. Odell Beckham missed training camp and 4 games last year, Brandin Cooks missed 6 games last year, Kevin White is likely missing the season, and Devante Parker is in the same boat as Perriman and still hasn't returned from his offseason foot surgery.

 

Questioning his toughness/desire to play? Really? That's just insulting man.

Edited August 28, 2015 by sflegend89

[The Mom Gene]

Does no one remember Odell Beckham last year??????  I think there are so many folks that are over-reacting to this whole situation.  The world is not ending, Breshad hasn't lost the season.  He's got some swelling...  and even THAT may be because he is working to stay in shape.    We have medical staff, trainers, on staff.  I am sure that they are doing a great job in overseeing this, and are making sure that once he does come back, he'll be back.  Bringing someone back too early is surely a huge mistake. 

[polynesian15]

My guess is he (a professional athlete) isn't sitting on the sofa eating doritos all day. He should be in just as good of shape as he was a month ago.

Right, not really what I was going for either. If his knee injury is keeping him from lifing weights and running/sprinting, then his conditioning will decline after 4-6 weeks of physical inactivy (there's no timetable for his return so far). Then when he's cleared for physical activity he'll have to regain his conditioning again, which is likely to delay his return even further. So in that case, maybe between week 4-8 of the regular season...

Therefore I ask again, are there any reports/rumors circulating regarding Perriman's activity level during his rehab?

Edited August 29, 2015 by polynesian15

[The Mom Gene]

Right, not really what I was going for either. If his knee injury is keeping him from lifing weights and running/sprinting, then his conditioning will decline after 4-6 weeks of physical inactivy (there's no timetable for his return so far). Then when he's cleared for physical activity he'll regain his conditioning, which likely would delay his return even further. So in that case, maybe between week 4-8...

Therefore I ask again, are there any reports/rumors circulating regarding Perriman's activity level during his rehab?

He may be doing just enough to stay on top of things....  hence why the swelling continues...  They may be weaning him....  if that's the right word...  not sure.  But like I said...  We have some of the best trainers in the league.

[Tank 92]

I think it's safe to say that Perriman is doing all he can to stay in shape without worsening his injury. That said, I don't see it possible for him to be anywhere near game ready condition. One would think it would take at least a couple of weeks of full contact practice before he could play in a game. After all he saw only one day of TC.

[MTRavensFan]

Thanks, 757, for posting this here. I've lost count of how many times that question has been asked and answered in the 60 pgs of the Perriman thread, but people keep on asking...

[January J]

Yeah I was getting a little frustrated with the question being asked. However new members may have missed it or some of these people might just be kids. Judging by some of the comments on here you would think that 75% of the users on here are 9 year olds...

[757RavensFan]

My guess is he (a professional athlete) isn't sitting on the sofa eating doritos all day. He should be in just as good of shape as he was a month ago.

 

How, when he can't run to maintain his endurance?

[MTRavensFan]

Yeah I was getting a little frustrated with the question being asked. However new members may have missed it or some of these people might just be kids. Judging by some of the comments on here you would think that 75% of the users on here are 9 year olds...

You'd be surprised how many kids, high-school age and younger are here with us on the board.

That's part of why we have to be so strict about language.

 

In this instance, however, it's more that people don't want to be bothered reading the thread before posting their opinion, or they have a question and need the answer right NOW, instead of doing a little research. It happens all the time in the game thread, too - "why is so-and-so not playing?"  - when it's already been answered three times. It can get super annoying when you're trying to watch the game and  keep up with the thread at the same time.

[GrimCoconut]

Are you sure he's not eligible? Lol

[JoeyFlex5]

How, when he can't run to maintain his endurance?

there is more you can do than run for cardio. as a matter of fact, stationary bikes are generally considered much better for cardio because they are much easier on the joints, and athletes with very bad knee injuries use them while rehabbing for this exact reason. i wouldnt be surprised if there were machines that work strictly the upper body and are great for cardio, this is a NFL level training facility were talking about here.

[Stevin]

Brooks was in pup list , and he kind of trained... no?

[Tank 92]

Oh my

[HoldingCall]

If Perriman makes it back soon he likely will miss most of September. If he doesn't make it back until around the first game, then he likely wouldn't play until October.

[ellicottraven]

I think he might not play this preseason to make sure he is fully healed and functional. It isn't great that he isn't practicing, but the silver lining from this injury could be nobody has tape on him with Joe and the Ravens, especially when regular season begins at Denver. He could end up being a nightmare for Denver to cover especially given that they haven't seen any of him recently.

[757RavensFan]

Brooks was in pup list , and he kind of trained... no?

Brooks along with Pitta was put on the PUP list before training camp started. He was removed from the PUP last week and he's practicing now with everyone else.

[polynesian15]

He may be doing just enough to stay on top of things....  hence why the swelling continues...  They may be weaning him....  if that's the right word...  not sure.  But like I said...  We have some of the best trainers in the league.

Sure, I get what you're saying. It's just that I once had a knee injury that pretty much kept me from all physical activity. All the trainers in the world won't do any good, if Perriman's knee is uncooperative.

I guess there are no reports on his rehab protocol so far. Wonder why it's being kept secret like that.

[polynesian15]

there is more you can do than run for cardio. as a matter of fact, stationary bikes are generally considered much better for cardio because they are much easier on the joints, and athletes with very bad knee injuries use them while rehabbing for this exact reason. i wouldnt be surprised if there were machines that work strictly the upper body and are great for cardio, this is a NFL level training facility were talking about here.

That cardio isn't really specific to the game of football though. Sure, it get's the heart rate going but it neglects the muscles, joints and movement patterns BP needs to play the game.

If his knee isn't cleared for any real exercise then his strength, speed, explosiveness, mobility and stability could decrease a fair bit during 4-6 weeks of inactivity. 

If that's the case he'll probably need about an equal amount of time (as his period of inactivity) to regain all those physical skills, before he can work up to full sprints and hard cutting.

At that point they would likely ease him back into team drills and contact. He would probably need a couple weeks of this before being cleared for actual game action.

If this is the case we might not see him until mid october - start november. 

[JoeyFlex5]

That cardio isn't really specific to the game of football though. Sure, it get's the heart rate going but it neglects the muscles, joints and movement patterns BP needs to play the game.

If his knee isn't cleared for any real exercise then his strength, speed, explosiveness, mobility and stability could decrease a fair bit during 4-6 weeks of inactivity. 

If that's the case he'll probably need about an equal amount of time (as his period of inactivity) to regain all those physical skills, before he can work up to full sprints and hard cutting.

At that point they would likely ease him back into team drills and contact. He would probably need a couple weeks of this before being cleared for actual game action.

If this is the case we might not see him until mid october - start november. 

so you are saying that if perriman misses a month of practice, while , just to spitball we'll say he had kept up on his cardio on the bike, and he is cleared to practice after that month... youre saying he needs an entire month after that just to learn how to get comfortable on his feet again?

 

if were talking about recovering from torn ACL/MCL surgery i would be willing to agree, but there is no way he needs an equal amount of time to learn how to play football again, if thats the case then he shouldnt be in the pros. he could be sidelined for 2 months and if he was fully healthy and cleared, it still wouldnt take any more than 2 weeks at the very max to get comfortable enough to play again, unless of course he is completely incompetent and uncoordinated, which i highly doubt is the case. youre overreacting and overstating by quite a large margin here

[The Mom Gene]

We're all left to hypotheticals for now...  oh well.   We just have to have faith in our team at this point.

[Guest]

We're all left to hypotheticals for now...  oh well.   We just have to have faith in our team at this point.

 

I thought he was a great selection.  Hopefully, its minor and he joins the team before long.  He's missed a lot of reps and it may take a number of weeks/months for him to make up the lost ground.

 

We really need him. Not just his talent, we need his niche.  We need his role.

[1/28/01]

Bet he suits up game 1.

[K-Dog]

Bet he suits up game 1.

I REALLY want you to be right.

[The Mom Gene]

Bet he suits up game 1.

 

I think so too.