[News] No Timetable For Breshad Perriman's Return

[law215]

I can't wait until the game tomorrow so I want to throw out some positive energy. 1) Perriman will be back at some point this year since MRI was normal. 2) our receiver and TE and mostly big guys with gives Joe a lot of mismatches over the field. 3) Our pass rush is still fierce Even in the Philly game where they threw the ball quick, there was pressure. 4) Safety position has been upgraded and more prove depth at corner with Arrington and Vaughn 5) Oline is strong with backups that could start on other teams (i.e. Urshel, Jensen, Hurst). 6)Immediate impact from rookies Smith, Allen, Davis, Waller, Walker all show some potential. Relax - We're good!

[trevorsteadman]

Perriman is my favorite player to play in Madden. Sure it is a video game, but his speed in the game relative to on the field against everyone else is probably accurate. He gets open a lot at only 73 overall. Perriman has all the talent in the world his ceiling is going to be incredible. With his speed and height, there is almost no way he doesn't go far in the NFL. His dad was in the NFL and that is why I know he will be a hard worker to make himself a player. But for now we will have to play tomorrow's game with Aiken and Steve Smith which I am fine with, but remember Perriman was playing with the #1's at the start of camp before he got injured and was reported he was getting open consistently. And I would like to think that right now our secondary is stacked... Hopefully they stay healthy because they seem fragile like glass but do play great.

[harfordravenfan]

It would be awesome if we don't hear a peep about him and then week 1 comes around and he's active but still not playing. Then in the 4th quarter we sneak him in out of nowhere and he blows by both defenders and hauls in a bomb from flacco to win the game. The mile high deceit?

Yeah I know I'm dreamin.

Might be dreaming but it does sound good (and a very catchy phrase)

[mendii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d29VsG35DQM

how I feel about people talking about Perriman

[trevorsteadman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d29VsG35DQM how I feel about people talking about Perriman

I agree. Yes he is a rookie and he needs to practice like everyone, but Perriman knows the play book he can go out there and still make plays. Him and Flacco had good chemistry before he was injured. Give him time to heal or he will be another player with nagging injuries the rest of their career. Honestly with Steve Smith on the field taking away the opposing team's #1 corner Perriman would get open without practice. Not many teams have 2 good corners. If he could get open against Jimmy Smith, Lardarius Webb (when healthy for a day), and Arrington with Lewis and Hill on the back end on the first day of training camp I think he already showed sky is the limit. And I am not on the purple kool aid I loved Perriman in college as a player he made Bortles the 3rd overall pick. Most of Perriman's highlights are of him diving for catches and making miraculous body rotations to catch balls. Bortles overthrew a person who ran a 4.2 40 yard dash. 

[ravensfan2430]

My guess is a week 5 return. Just a guess tho

[trevorsteadman]

I was against Torrey being offered 7 Million/YR  but if you look at everything you do pay less taxes than California and all the other family factors should have swayed him to stay and taken that contract offer from the Ravens.

Kaepernick's deep ball completion rate is low but maybe this is because of the slow receivers they had.

We may be in for trouble this season with out current stable of WR's, especially since Perriman hasn't practised in a while

Torrey Smith during an interview after a training camp I believe it was came out and straight up told Kaepernick that he needs to throw it more and if Kaep throws it up he will go and get it. He doesn't take too many shots and the offense has no real threat until they get a better O-line, along with Davis playing better. 7 million a year was terrible for Torrey I love the guy but I'm glad we paid someone else. Good player but he isn't a player you pay 7 million on to be a #2 target. 

[The Mom Gene]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d29VsG35DQM how I feel about people talking about Perriman

OMG...  I remember that....  That was hilarious.

But yes, If Breshad has the playbook down, and works on getting back into "football shape"...  he'll be just fine.

No panic... just patience.

[birdseye]

sprain is a term doctors use when theres nothing wrong structurally with the ligament but there is swelling and inflamation. A sprain can be an injury that recovers in a couple of hours or if its serious like a high ankle sprain it can take months. When people read PCL sprain they get their panites in a bunch because it sounds scary.

WOOOSAH ravens fans, WOOSAH!!! the media gets us all in a stir speculating and speculating because they need stories to write. Take a deep breath and enjoy the buttkicking were about to lay down on Washington, Breshad will be back soon enough and in 3 years were going to be celebrating the first WR we drafted in R1 that actually panned out. Remember friends, Harbaugh said Breshad was the 14th best player on their board, and they've said he is exactly what they thought they saw on film... I trust their evaluation

[C.Gooche]

Calling someone a bust before their first season of their rookie contract is ridiculous! Some of ya'll are insane.

Would you rather him go out there and be 80-90% and also risk further (and potentially worse) injury? Or would you like them to take it easy and get the most out of a "healthy" Perriman for his remaining time with the Ravens? I'd rather have a player that is as healthy as possible personally. If team doctors haven't cleared them I trust their judgement.

[goldenboldin]

Reminds me of Odell Beckham with his hamstring last year. Beckham not only missed all of training camp but also the first 4 games of the regular season! Put that in perspective. Giants fans were saying the same stuff "Is he always going to be injured?" "Why is this taking so long to heal, something is up".. all the stuff we're saying now. Beckham came back and lit it up, the same can happen with Perriman. In fact I would be surprised if he's back by week 1. Keep the faith people. Let Breshad heal that knee up to 100% and the rest will be history.

 

This is a great analogy and I wish more people get to read your post...

 

Every injury is different, every body is different, even sprains comes in different degrees and severities.. people just expect human beings to be machines sometimes.. if he's not ready for camp then he's not ready. if he's not ready for pre-season then he's not ready.. i don't care when he gets back as long as he's at 100%. Perriman is one of the faces of the Raven's future so hopefully he (and Michael Campanaro) can be and stay healthy

Edited August 28, 2015 by goldenboldin

[bigcatfrank1]

As stated NUMEROUS times, you're not eligible for PUP if you practice one single day of training camp. Perriman was hurt the 1st day of training camp making him ineligible for the PUP. Brooks and Pitta were placed on PUP list PRIOR to the start of training camp.

Actually you are the only one who has said this...and only once before.  So you are saying that a player cannot go on the PUP list during training camp? that doesnt make sense, however I will check with other reliable sources. I am not saying you are or are not reliable. I want additional information. later.

[TXRavensFan]

Actually you are the only one who has said this...and only once before.  So you are saying that a player cannot go on the PUP list during training camp? that doesnt make sense, however I will check with other reliable sources. I am not saying you are or are not reliable. I want additional information. later.

He is correct. If a player practices even one day of training camp, he is not eligible for the PUP.

[bigcatfrank1]

taken form an article- Reserve/PUP (regular season PUP list). Any player starting on the Active PUP list (and has not practiced) with the team becomes eligible for the Reserve/PUP at the end of training camp. Once a player practices during training camp, all PUP list options are off the table.

So i have validated your point that a player cannot be put on the PUP list to start the season if he has practiced even one day.

just a note: the term PUP can be used during the season describing a player who will not be active for the game thus as being PUP ( physically unable to perform) however this is totally different than the PUP list and rules at the beginning of the season for roster purposes.

It may be possible to start Perriman on the IR / intent to return, this is available to one player per team.

[Moderator 3]

Actually you are the only one who has said this...and only once before. SO dont be a jerk. So you are saying that a player cannot go on the PUP list during training camp? that doesnt make sense, however I will check with other reliable sources. I am not saying you are or are not reliable. I want additional information. later.

I can verify that this has been posted multiple times, including by myself.

[jrubin80]

Moderator 3... he is saying that once you participate in at least one training camp day then you can't be put on the PUP

[January J]

Actually you are the only one who has said this...and only once before. SO dont be a jerk. So you are saying that a player cannot go on the PUP list during training camp? that doesnt make sense, however I will check with other reliable sources. I am not saying you are or are not reliable. I want additional information. later.

I also have said this Atleast on 3 or 4 different occasions. But it's all good- can't expect everybody to read every post in every thread.

[January J]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d29VsG35DQMhow I feel about people talking about Perriman

lol nice. Great minds think alike.

[January J]

I think the Ravens are embarrassed that they didn't pick up on this genetic knee problem (assuming that's what's holding Perriman back). Their #1 pick and they missed something crucial like that. Or maybe they knew about it, but mistakenly thought it wouldn't be a problem. Either way, it doesn't look good for the front office. It's obvious that something is wrong. It has been a month and his knee condition seems to be the same. There's a huge problem. And the comments have been the same: "he'll be back soon . . . maybe he'll play next week . . ." etc etc. They're not admitting anything outside of the front office. Hopefully inside the front office they're being more realistic and doing some serious planning. But this is obviously not what they thought would happen. Someone missed something.

nooooo, I'm sure Ozzie and co. Are just sitting around with their thumb in their butts.

"He is eligible to be cut" - That would be brilliant. Cut our first round pick who we have for the next several years for next to nothing. Freakin genius.

[LunarRover]

Some fans that we have should just go to Philly or Los Angelos and root for their teams, it would be more suitable for your behavior. Its unreal, and shameful how many ppl here that call themselves fans can sit here and call Perriman a bust, a bum, or whatever. This kid is im sure trying to get back out on the field as soon as he possibly can. He has a chip on his shoulder due to all the critics already, and you just throw him under the wheels because hes missing some practices. Yes theyre important, very very important. But so is getting healthy for the 16 weeks that really matter, matter a lot more. Perriman didnt just learn how to play ball, hes been playing his entire life, he comes from NFL stock. LEt him get his leg together and come give the fans what they want. Stop hating on him because you dont understand his situation. we all would have loved to see what the Brass meant in selecting him, and now is the time to trust the Brass in their decision and stop being brats on xmas morning. We have 16 weeks of a season coming on and this kid is a big part of that. He will get back and be fine. so why all the hate, its embarrassing

[Drew P]

I think the Ravens are embarrassed that they didn't pick up on this genetic knee problem (assuming that's what's holding Perriman back). Their #1 pick and they missed something crucial like that. Or maybe they knew about it, but mistakenly thought it wouldn't be a problem. Either way, it doesn't look good for the front office. It's obvious that something is wrong. It has been a month and his knee condition seems to be the same. There's a huge problem. And the comments have been the same: "he'll be back soon . . . maybe he'll play next week . . ." etc etc. They're not admitting anything outside of the front office. Hopefully inside the front office they're being more realistic and doing some serious planning. But this is obviously not what they thought would happen. Someone missed something.

 

 

I recall draft day several years back when here in Texas a local radio DJ stated Sergio Kindle had bad knees and he would tumble..

[cobrajet]

He will heal and in the meantime I believe we will be just fine with Kamar Aiken, Marlon Brown, and Butler who are all decent young healthy receivers. As long as we suffer no more injuries and heal up on our o-line, IMHO we should be fine. The only slight concern I am having right now is our defense being able to set the edge.

[The Mom Gene]

Moderator 3... he is saying that once you participate in at least one training camp day then you can't be put on the PUP

 

That is correct...  Once you practice during the preseason, you cannot be put on the PUP.  Until the season starts..  then you can be put on the "designated to return" list.

[GENE2407]

This is ridiculous. In 40 years of watching football, I don't think I can ever remember a 21 year old player with what they continue to say is such a minor injury missing so much time.

[DTW]

Apparently there are a lot of folks with medical degrees posting on the Ravens board, and they have it all figured out. Somehow, through the snippets and conjecture they have read they have come to a conclusion that the that they know something that has completely slipped by the intensive background check firms employed by NFL teams (Perriman was scouted by multiple teams as a first rounder), medical history review, the combine physical, the actual physical performed by a physician that is required for any NFL player signing a contract AND the insurance underwriters for the contract. They have concluded that Perriman is damaged goods and a bust and The Ravens dropped the ball in drafting him!!!!!

Get a grip chicken littles. The kid got hurt on the first day of practice. It could have happened in a pre-season game or regular season game as well. It is taking longer to heal than anticipated. I work with injured people every day %u2013 young, old, in shape, and grossly out of shape. Some recover faster and regain functionality quicker than others in all those categories. Sometimes the simple explanation really is the actual reason and all there is. Thankfully this is not a season ender like it was for Jordy Nelson or Kevin White (the receiver taken ahead of Perriman) both of whom crumpled without ever getting touched. The Ravens are likely exercising an abundance of caution thinking of his long term impact rather than the short term desire of an impatient fanbase on talk radio and the internet demanding to see him on the field Now Now Now!!!!! The Ravens do not owe anyone any information about the severity of his injury %u2013 until they are forced by NFL Rules to disclose it. Full stop. I%u2019d rather that they be purposefully cautious about the information they give.

[Moderator 3]

Moderator 3... he is saying that once you participate in at least one training camp day then you can't be put on the PUP

Exactly. PUP is for players who show up to camp injured or sick. Once you practice, you're no longer eligible. It's IR, IR-DTR, active roster, or waived-injured. Also note that a team can only place ONE player on IR-DTR.

[balfan23]

The MRI was apparently "normal", so at this point, I don't think there's much reason to worry that there is something fundamentally wrong with his knee. When Jacoby sprained his knee, the original timetable for his return was 4-6 weeks, and that turned out to be accurate. When Flacco sprained his knee, he still needed his brace a couple weeks later, and he clearly wasn't even close to being able to move the same. For Perriman, it's been about 4 weeks, so at this point, it's pretty consistent with a normal timetable for a knee sprain.

 

I know they initially said it was a bruise, but when you look at it as a sprain, which is what it is, what would make you worry that it's something more than that? I don't see anything so far that's been inconsistent with a typical knee sprain.

Good points. As you say, the general timetable for knee sprains is around 4-6 weeks.The fact that they have no timetable is what makes it seem inconsistent with a typical knee sprain. You'd think they'd be somewhat confident that he'd make it back in a couple more weeks and be able to state that. I guess what makes me worry

 

Given the silence on the injury, it feels like there is no progress on recovery. Obviously, I'm dying to see him show what he's got, to get out there and be that difference maker we drafted him to be and shut these people up who want to call him a bust before he's even had a chance to prove himself. 

[omar586]

 

Apparently not...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you guys really want to bring genetics into it, he got it from his father; Osgood-Schlatter's affected Brett Perriman's playing career precisely 0%

i understand that but we still need another speedster just case, b/c our offense will struggle without a speedster WR stretching the D.

[Crusader]

What's really bad for Perriman is Steve Smith retirement. Steve could teach Perriman so much being on the field.

[manofsteel]

Let's just release him. He is turning into another Jimmy Smith and Webb on always being hurt. Take his contract money and go out and find someone who is healthy and WANTS to play and catch the ball.