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[News] No Timetable For Breshad Perriman's Return

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i hope perriman won;t be a bust like i an suspecting.

also for those that are still crying about the torrie smith leaving. ravens offered him a contract, i believe, that was five million less over the five years. which only proves that smith wanted to leave. why is that? if you figure california taxes, cost of living, family travel and lost possible playoff bonuses, torrie would have made more money, after all was said, in done in baltimore. some time the figure doesn't out weigh the expenses.

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that's why i said never let the RAVENS draft any WR period. ravens can sign UDFAs WRs, trade for them sign them in FA, but draft noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. someone jinxed the ravens at drafting WRs.

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What I wish is really going..

The injury is just a front. BP has been working out secretly behind closed doors. Then BOOM.. week 1 BP has 5 catches, 130 yrds, 3 TDs..

haha.. highly unlikely I know. But wouldn't it be great.

sucks he hasn't participated in the preseason, yet. But it will really suck if this thing drags on all year. Or worse, his career. Hopefully he'll be able to make it back and get his chance to produce. Give everybody a chance to see what hes got.

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having an injury doesn't make somebody a bust. It's not even week 1 yet. One day you will learn to have some patience kid. It's not all about instant gratification. And for the last time .. Perriman is NOT eligible for the pup.

He is eligible to be cut though............

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looks more and more like a wasted first round pick

 

Some of you out there are awful quick to give up on the young man.  Have a little heart, and a little patience.

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I think Perriman will be back at some point. I also expect Ravens to get a returner or Wr after cut to 75. Ravens are snake bit at receivers in the 1st round. We don't have speed at receiver but we do have size.

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It stinks I was hoping to see more of Perriman this pre-season. This is how things go sometimes I am just happy the Ravens are not rushing any thing to get him back on the field after all he is the future.

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Some of you out there are awful quick to give up on the young man.  Have a little heart, and a little patience.

I'm with you on this... patience always pays off.

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the problem with this injury is its a genetic disease that causes the knee joint to be inflamed with slightest work or movement, let alone a physical sport like football. the only thing the ravens will do now is let it heal, and even when he's healed up they have to limit his snaps too. so Ozzie will have to add a speedster WR after roster cuts.

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Some one said Perriman is not eligible for PUP...why not. If you get hurt you go on PUP....I believ that if a player is put on the PUP before the season then he would not be able to return until after 6 games. Anyone else?

As stated NUMEROUS times, you're not eligible for PUP if you practice one single day of training camp. Perriman was hurt the 1st day of training camp making him ineligible for the PUP. Brooks and Pitta were placed on PUP list PRIOR to the start of training camp.

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I'm with you on this... patience always pays off.

Yes but not always......... Cundiff or Kindle....

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looks more and more like a wasted first round pick

Let's hope not but this isn't a good sign so far

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All the particular troubles with Perriman's injury aside, go back to early April when us fans were pleading that Oz and Harbs should get over this mentality that WRs are 'crapshoots' and how we haven't drafted one succesfully in the 1st round ever and that high a pick is too valuable to waste for a franchise with a cursed history of never producing a homegrown pro bowl calibre WR etc etc.

In hindsite you kinda get Harbs' fear. We just expended a precious 1st rounder on a kid who could be plagued with excruciating pain in his knees for his entire career.

Baltimore- the land where we develop amazing defenders; run the ball; and occassionally try to poach proven vets in the pass game in free agency.

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If they just came out from the beginning and said he has a sprained knee and he will be out for 4-8 Weeks these "fans" wouldn't be crying right now. BP has freakish ability. Look at the Bears with Kevin White. Things happen, but with such a flaky fanbase due to the recent success, they should probably temper expectations of a stellar rookie season. 3 years from now we will know if this was a good pick. Its still Week 3 of the preseason.

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I think the Ravens are embarrassed that they didn't pick up on this genetic knee problem (assuming that's what's holding Perriman back). Their #1 pick and they missed something crucial like that. Or maybe they knew about it, but mistakenly thought it wouldn't be a problem. Either way, it doesn't look good for the front office. It's obvious that something is wrong. It has been a month and his knee condition seems to be the same. There's a huge problem. And the comments have been the same: "he'll be back soon . . . maybe he'll play next week . . ." etc etc. They're not admitting anything outside of the front office. Hopefully inside the front office they're being more realistic and doing some serious planning. But this is obviously not what they thought would happen. Someone missed something.

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Writing the guy off for an injury during his first training camp? I expected better from the Ravens faithful. A handful of the injuries that guys are missing time for wouldn't even be on the injury report come regular season. most of the other ones wouldn't be nearly severe enough to keep our starters out of games. They're all very aware of the expectations we have for this year. Internally, judging from the comments people in the organization have said over the summer, I dont think the team is shying away from a super bowl or bust mentality this year. Flacco has finally stepped up as the leader of this team and he basically came out and said were shooting for 11 or 12 wins this year. Not gonna have little nagging injuries that land you on the injury report in august keeping webb or wagner or KO out during crunch time.

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As much as I love Perriman's potential, I'm with those who say he's a bust and another 1st round WR disappointment. Could he actually come back and realize that potential? Sure, but what have we seen so far? He was injured and didn't participate in the combine. He got well and did the eye popping 40 at his pro day. He looks decent during non-contact OTAs and then is injured 1st day of contact practices. His past 4, 5 months doesn't offer much hope. I understand the optimists hoping this injury is a bump in the road and he'll be the #1 WR we've been coveting but his recent past is an indication or warning that might not be the case.

As for the WR corps without Perriman, unless Waller turns into a huge surprise, it's going to be difficult to watch. Aiken and Marlon we know do not get separation consistently. Camp is always injured. SSS will now be shutdown with bracket coverage. Trestman will have to rely on the young TEs who I think will be great. The run game will have to produce as well as swing passes to the RBs. Unless Perriman shows up or Waller surprises the WRs won't have much impact within the offense. It's going to be exciting to see how the Ravens offense works.

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It's Osgood-Schatlers disease. People say it doesn't effect grownups but plenty of people that developed it as kids and continued repetitive stress with sports experience pain well into adulthood.

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If they just came out from the beginning and said he has a sprained knee and he will be out for 4-8 Weeks these "fans" wouldn't be crying right now. BP has freakish ability. Look at the Bears with Kevin White. Things happen, but with such a flaky fanbase due to the recent success, they should probably temper expectations of a stellar rookie season. 3 years from now we will know if this was a good pick. Its still Week 3 of the preseason.

It is true that this situation is made far worse by the fact that the initial word was it was a tweak and he'd be back in a few days. So either the situation has not been well handled by the team or there is something fundamentally wrong with his knee that caught the medical staff by surprise.

 

I think it is the latter that have many of us concerned. If what appeared to medical staff to be minor has kept him out for a month, with no timetable to return, then what does the future hold with respect to his health? 

 

No way I'm giving up on him. I too am sick of people calling him a bust at this point, because that is just totally absurd. But there is no doubt that I'm concerned that he may be long term health risk, given the way this is playing out. 

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I think we are all well aware of this by now

 

Apparently not...

 

the problem with this injury is its a genetic disease that causes the knee joint to be inflamed with slightest work or movement, let alone a physical sport like football. the only thing the ravens will do now is let it heal, and even when he's healed up they have to limit his snaps too. so Ozzie will have to add a speedster WR after roster cuts.

 

 

All the particular troubles with Perriman's injury aside, go back to early April when us fans were pleading that Oz and Harbs should get over this mentality that WRs are 'crapshoots' and how we haven't drafted one succesfully in the 1st round ever and that high a pick is too valuable to waste for a franchise with a cursed history of never producing a homegrown pro bowl calibre WR etc etc.

In hindsite you kinda get Harbs' fear. We just expended a precious 1st rounder on a kid who could be plagued with excruciating pain in his knees for his entire career.

Baltimore- the land where we develop amazing defenders; run the ball; and occassionally try to poach proven vets in the pass game in free agency.

 

 

I think the Ravens are embarrassed that they didn't pick up on this genetic knee problem (assuming that's what's holding Perriman back). Their #1 pick and they missed something crucial like that. Or maybe they knew about it, but mistakenly thought it wouldn't be a problem. Either way, it doesn't look good for the front office. It's obvious that something is wrong. It has been a month and his knee condition seems to be the same. There's a huge problem. And the comments have been the same: "he'll be back soon . . . maybe he'll play next week . . ." etc etc. They're not admitting anything outside of the front office. Hopefully inside the front office they're being more realistic and doing some serious planning. But this is obviously not what they thought would happen. Someone missed something.

 

 

It's Osgood-Schatlers disease. People say it doesn't effect grownups but plenty of people that developed it as kids and continued repetitive stress with sports experience pain well into adulthood.

If you guys really want to bring genetics into it, he got it from his father; Osgood-Schlatter's affected Brett Perriman's playing career precisely 0%

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I know his Father played though the Osgood illness with his knees but this is taking way too long for Perriman to come back 1 month of being out is long enough. I think something is definitely up with him he has been gone too long now to be expected to make an impact this season. I think we may be looking at a year 3 WR who then may contribute.

As much as i don't want to say that Look at Kevin White, he in all likelihood wont be back this season after suffering from "shin splints."

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I think people are overreacting about Perriman still being out. Yes he'll lose some chemistry by not running with the first team offense an being out so long; but his ability will still be there. I'd rather him heal completely than to prematurely get on the field and potentially make things worse for a much longer time.

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in ray rices rookie year he missed over a month with a thigh bruise. ODB didnt play until week 5 after missing all of training camp and preseason.

it hurts knowing hes starting out so rough, but calm down people.

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i hope perriman won;t be a bust like i an suspecting. also for those that are still crying about the torrie smith leaving. ravens offered him a contract, i believe, that was five million less over the five years. which only proves that smith wanted to leave. why is that? if you figure california taxes, cost of living, family travel and lost possible playoff bonuses, torrie would have made more money, after all was said, in done in baltimore. some time the figure doesn't out weigh the expenses.

I was against Torrey being offered 7 Million/YR  but if you look at everything you do pay less taxes than California and all the other family factors should have swayed him to stay and taken that contract offer from the Ravens.

Kaepernick's deep ball completion rate is low but maybe this is because of the slow receivers they had.

We may be in for trouble this season with out current stable of WR's, especially since Perriman hasn't practised in a while

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It is true that this situation is made far worse by the fact that the initial word was it was a tweak and he'd be back in a few days. So either the situation has not been well handled by the team or there is something fundamentally wrong with his knee that caught the medical staff by surprise.

 

I think it is the latter that have many of us concerned. If what appeared to medical staff to be minor has kept him out for a month, with no timetable to return, then what does the future hold with respect to his health? 

 

No way I'm giving up on him. I too am sick of people calling him a bust at this point, because that is just totally absurd. But there is no doubt that I'm concerned that he may be long term health risk, given the way this is playing out. 

The MRI was apparently "normal", so at this point, I don't think there's much reason to worry that there is something fundamentally wrong with his knee. When Jacoby sprained his knee, the original timetable for his return was 4-6 weeks, and that turned out to be accurate. When Flacco sprained his knee, he still needed his brace a couple weeks later, and he clearly wasn't even close to being able to move the same. For Perriman, it's been about 4 weeks, so at this point, it's pretty consistent with a normal timetable for a knee sprain.

 

I know they initially said it was a bruise, but when you look at it as a sprain, which is what it is, what would make you worry that it's something more than that? I don't see anything so far that's been inconsistent with a typical knee sprain.

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I suggest that some of you on the "he's a bust" bandwagon read up on the healing process of a knee sprain. If it's a severe sprain, recovery time is at LEAST a month. He hasn't even missed a month yet, so plz give the guy a chance to actually play before labeling him good or bad.

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It's not news that Perriman was diagnosed with a sprained PCL. I have no idea what the prognosis is for a return. While it appears less serious than an ACL tear, it nevertheless is serious. The PCL is one of two ligaments along with the ACL attached to the knee. I suppose if u want to make an uneducated guess u could look on the bright side and speculate a sprain maybe less severe than a tear. If all he was expected to do in his rookie year was to stretch the field they can live without him. Hensley reported his condition.

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