Ravens extend SS Will Hill

[TDubbs]

This is great for both sides. The Ravens are showing faith in Hill, and I think thats a huge for him. When he was cut by the Giants not a lot of teams were interested, he knows that. Now you've got a player 100% in on what we're doing here, I'm excited to see him play this year. 

[ravensdan]

Hopefully contains outs for off field incidents. As long as he can stay on the field we have one of the best safeties in the league at a bargain.

And the Giants with virtually no safeties are wondering why he couldn't stay out of trouble with them.

[K-Dog]

I like the guy, so its good enough for me.

[B-more Ravor]

I really like this and think Hill has absolutely deserved it.

 

Remains to be seen whether our site is wrong or Spotrac in terms of the contract length - according to Spotrac, it's 2 years on top this signed tender in 2015:

 

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/baltimore-ravens/will-hill/

 

As is often the case, Spotrac appears to be confused - or, at least, if you believe Hill himself, who said it was for 2015 and 2016.   

 

Jeff Zrebiec ‏@jeffzrebiecsun 8h8 hours ago

Will Hill said the deal covers the 2015 and 2016 seasons.

 

Edit:  Not to mention that Spotrac still lists his $1.542M RFA tender salary as his 2015 salary, which is also going to change with the new deal.

Edited August 28, 2015 by B-more Ravor

[GrimCoconut]

As is often the case, Spotrac appears to be confused - or, at least, if you believe Hill himself, who said it was for 2015 and 2016.   

 

Jeff Zrebiec ‏@jeffzrebiecsun 8h8 hours ago

Will Hill said the deal covers the 2015 and 2016 seasons.

 

Edit:  Not to mention that Spotrac still lists his $1.542M RFA tender salary as his 2015 salary, which is also going to change with the new deal.

I'm sure Spotrac knows something Will Hill doesn't.

[PurpleCity5]

I wouldn't be shocked if we extended K.O next.

[jazz1988]

I would say with this Signing, the Lewis signing, and the Brooks draft pick.....yes.

 

Just because The Raven gave Will Hill a extension and signed Lewis it doesn't mean Matt Elam is gone next year at all. Elam is still cheap and supposedly looked like a changed player in practice before he tore his bicep

[Tenacious Faulker]

Good news!  Gotta wonder if it wouldn't have been for longer if he didn't have those suspensions. 

 

I'm glad for it.  He plays like a Raven and was wasted in New York.  Hopefully he's good here until he retires.

[rmw10]

Jason Cole ‏@JasonColeBR  16m16 minutes ago

2-year deal on #Ravens S Will Hill is worth $7M total, plus another $400K in P/T incentives. Keeps him thru '16 season. Got $2.84M guarantee

[gabefergy]

That sounds about right for Hill. As long as he keeps his head on straight, it will be a bargain for a top 10 safety.

[RavensFanMania]

I read somewhere I can't source atm that this is essentially just another year with the team. That he'll be a free agent after the 2017 season. Is that accurate?

I haven't heard that yet, but that would be two years as the restricted contract is basically tossed.  It's a great signing non of the less.  We have enough to worry about this coming offseason.

 

Thank you Ozzie!

[ellicottraven]

In life everything is great till it is not. In this particular case, I am praying it remains a great decision. With the information Ozzie and the Ravens had, signing him to a 2 yr extension was the best decision they could've made and they made it. The rest really is up to Will Hill now.

[Gordo52]

Big relief getting him secured. Hope he plays his way into a bigger one....Next up Tucker & Yanda please.

[Crabcakes&Football]

Good deal. I was of the idea to let him play this season and stay clean then try to give him a new deal. This extension is pretty low risk but keeps him here long enough to work out a new one if he keeps up the maturity and good play he's shown since signing here.

[Maryland]

With the Hill signing, we really don't have many high-priority UFAs for next season.

 

Tucker

Yanda

KO 

Upshaw

 

And Tucker will absolutely be franchised if he is not resigned, so we really only have 3 big FAs to worry about (barring the emergence of someone unexpected). Seems pretty manageable with how much cap space we are projected to have (and a Flacco restructure likely). 

[RayRocks]

I would imagine Tucker, Yanda and probably Upshaw will be back.  Osemele is a wait-and-see, but most likely he's going somewhere else for the big bucks.

[757RavensFan]

Good news! Gotta wonder if it wouldn't have been for longer if he didn't have those suspensions.

I'm glad for it. He plays like a Raven and was wasted in New York. Hopefully he's good here until he retires.

If he didn't have those suspensions, he would still be with the Giants. IJS.

[Wildabeast88]

Is Elam gone next year ?

hard to say I doubt it we are still on the hook for 800000+ In dead money while saving 1.3mil so probably not but who knows

[Wildabeast88]

I read somewhere I can't source atm that this is essentially just another year with the team. That he'll be a free agent after the 2017 season. Is that accurate?

no it added next year to it so free agent after the 16 season Edited August 29, 2015 by Wildabeast88

[Guest]

I would imagine Tucker, Yanda and probably Upshaw will be back.  Osemele is a wait-and-see, but most likely he's going somewhere else for the big bucks.

 

It hasn't started out well for him, but if Osemele plays a relatively injury free year at the levels he provided in 2012 and 2014, its going to be a very very difficult decision. Or it should be...you never know.

[Tenacious Faulker]

If he didn't have those suspensions, he would still be with the Giants. IJS.

Good point.

[Adreme]

With the Hill signing, we really don't have many high-priority UFAs for next season.

 

Tucker

Yanda

KO 

Upshaw

 

And Tucker will absolutely be franchised if he is not resigned, so we really only have 3 big FAs to worry about (barring the emergence of someone unexpected). Seems pretty manageable with how much cap space we are projected to have (and a Flacco restructure likely). 

 

Yanda and to a lesser extent KO are going to be taking much bigger contract numbers then I think you are expecting especially considering both are elite guards and Yanda is still probably the best guard in the league.   Just at those 4 I would say you are looking at maybe 18-20M a year just ballparking it which is a lot of capspace.

[B-more Ravor]

Based on media reports and the NFLPA information, the breakdown of Will Hill's new deal would be:

https://twitter.com/RavensSalaryCap/...48101910687748

 

http://russellstreetreport.com/2015/08/29/baltimore-ravens-salary-cap/examining-will-hills-contract-extension/

Edited August 29, 2015 by B-more Ravor

[Maryland]

Yanda and to a lesser extent KO are going to be taking much bigger contract numbers then I think you are expecting especially considering both are elite guards and Yanda is still probably the best guard in the league.   Just at those 4 I would say you are looking at maybe 18-20M a year just ballparking it which is a lot of capspace.

Contract numbers get bigger later on in the contract though. In the first year they're very small unless they front-load it for some reason (which Oz never does).

 

We have a projected 14 mil before Flacco restructuring and before any increases in the cap. That's enough to sign all 4, and then some.

 

That said, I think KO walks and nets us a nice compensatory pick. 

[BmoreBird22]

Contract numbers get bigger later on in the contract though. In the first year they're very small unless they front-load it for some reason (which Oz never does).

 

We have a projected 14 mil before Flacco restructuring and before any increases in the cap. That's enough to sign all 4, and then some.

 

That said, I think KO walks and nets us a nice compensatory pick. 

I would honestly think that if the Ravens had the chance, they'd front load more contracts because you have to consider that as players age, if their play drops off, you'd want to be easily able to cut them. 

[Maryland]

I would honestly think that if the Ravens had the chance, they'd front load more contracts because you have to consider that as players age, if their play drops off, you'd want to be easily able to cut them. 

It actually works the opposite. Backloading a contract with non-guaranteed money makes them easy to cut later on. Most if not all of the guaranteed money is in the form of a signing bonus, so it really works out to where the cap hit is small up front, but the player is receiving a lot of money, and then the cap hit grows to be big at the end while the guaranteed money is minimal (or dead money if cut). If they want to extend a player, that non-guaranteed money usually becomes a signing bonus. 

 

You can check out these contracts on OTC. For all of the longer contracts Oz dishes out, the structure is about the same, where the initial cap hit starts small and then goes big. Some teams have a different philosophy, however, and usually they have a lot more cap space year to year compared to the Ravens. 

[BmoreBird22]

It actually works the opposite. Backloading a contract with non-guaranteed money makes them easy to cut later on. Most if not all of the guaranteed money is in the form of a signing bonus, so it really works out to where the cap hit is small up front, but the player is receiving a lot of money, and then the cap hit grows to be big at the end while the guaranteed money is minimal (or dead money if cut). If they want to extend a player, that non-guaranteed money usually becomes a signing bonus. 

 

You can check out these contracts on OTC. For all of the longer contracts Oz dishes out, the structure is about the same, where the initial cap hit starts small and then goes big. Some teams have a different philosophy, however, and usually they have a lot more cap space year to year compared to the Ravens. 

I'm just thinking cases like Ray Rice, Haloti Ngata, Joe Flacco (except the last year) where you'll have major amounts of dead cap space. For literally every single contract I've looked up that's recent (Joe, Suggs, Ngata, Pitta, etc.) the amount of dead cap space in all the years, except the final, make the cut not worth it. 

[gabefergy]

PFF just rated him as the best coverage safety in the NFL and the 3rd best against the run. What a steal.

[Militant X 1]

This cat is growing on me!  I loved his gameplay (with the exception of the Ravens defense giving up 37 pts to Carr and the Raiders of course) and aggressive...dare I say it...."leadership" that he demonstrated on the field and sidelines this past Sunday.  Also, I just got finished watching Ravens Wired and loved this quote by Will Hill....

 

"What's next is a "W".  We have to get a "W" at all costs.  We've got to come out and practice harder ever than we did before, even though we felt like we had great practices, umm; it's one thing my brother always told me; "What you feel and what's real isn't always the same thing and we felt like we had good huh, practices.  We felt like we had a good game plan but in reality it didn't work out!"

 

He further states........

 

"So we've gotta come out and figure something out!  Get gotta get in that book longer, stay in the office longer, we gotta go to each others houses and study more; we gotta do something cause we gotta snap out of this!"

 

That's some good stuff right there!

 

GO RAVENS!

Edited September 26, 2015 by Militant X 1

[salamander]

I really hope Will Hill can continue to make some big plays. Had 1 interception, almost 2. Hill said on the sidelines that we needed a big play and went out and got the 1st interception. The defense needs some players to be bona fide playmakers and Hill is 1 player I'm starting to believe can be 1 of those weapons.