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[News] Terrell Suggs Embraces The Villain Role

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Completely legal and fair "tackle" by Suggs. If he had really wanted to take out the QB's legs, he could have done a lot worse. Bradford won't last long if Kelly doesn't wise up. Time to move on w/this one.

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Salamander posted this earlier in another thread...  Gotta say, I agree...

 

"I need to get this off my chest. I was listening to the Vinnie and Rob show on 105.7 yesterday. Both of them were saying that Suggs definitely took a purposeful cheap shot at Bradford, specifically targeting his knees. Beyond that, they both said that Suggs had the intention of injuring Bradford to possibly take him out for the season. These comments come on the heels of Harbaugh and several coaches meeting with the press to say that Suggs ran the play just as they drew it up. The play was certainly to take down the QB to deter the read option, just as the monster hit from Williams on the QB got Bradford's attention on another play. Yes, both plays were to get both in Bradford's head and body. However, they went on to say what a dirty player Suggs is and always has been, which of course invited a barrage of callers to pile on some serious Suggs bashing comments, which was a great invitation to Philly fans to join the festivities. For 2 local sports commentators to go beyond stating an opinion and instead declare as a fact that they were certain of Suggs' intention to injure and possibly end Bradford's career was far worse than anything the Eagles players or Chip Kelly had to say. Since our coaches had just had press conferences saying that Suggs executed the play exactly as planned, their blasting comments open a serious door that Suggs, and perhaps the coaches could have been intentionally headhunting with the intent to injure another player and that the contact with the knees could not possibly have been incidental. The implications of making definitive statements about the ill-intent of Suggs, and by extension the coaches who supported the execution of the play as designed, made me upset. Perhaps I am wrong, but I was left with the impression that they were maybe stirring the pot to generate controversy on a slow news day at the expense of the reputations of Suggs and the Ravens organization? This went beyond trying to portray themselves as above the "homer" mentality as "neutral" local experts. Perhaps there is an hidden agenda I am unaware of, but, for whatever reason, I felt it was a biased and unfair attack upon Suggs and the Ravens organization, especially after coaches explained and vocally supported Suggs on that play. All I know is I lost a lot of respect for both Vinnie and Rob yesterday and I felt that they really crossed the line. Does this make anybody else mad besides me?"

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Thanks to Mom Gene for reposting my "get this off my chest" lengthy comment regarding Vinny and Rob calling Suggs a dirty player and that he intentionally took a cheap shot to injure Bradford, etc. Just to follow up, I emailed Dave Labrozzi from CBS/105.7 with my dissatisfaction and he sent me a return e mail thanking me for bringing these on the air comments to his attention. I couldn't believe my ears listening to the broadcast which couldn't have reflected worse upon the character of Suggs and the integrity of the Ravens organization. Anyway, Dave said he would talk to both sportscasters tomorrow so if I hear anything further, I will let everybody know.

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Salamander posted this earlier in another thread...  Gotta say, I agree...

 

"I need to get this off my chest. I was listening to the Vinnie and Rob show on 105.7 yesterday. Both of them were saying that Suggs definitely took a purposeful cheap shot at Bradford, specifically targeting his knees. Beyond that, they both said that Suggs had the intention of injuring Bradford to possibly take him out for the season. These comments come on the heels of Harbaugh and several coaches meeting with the press to say that Suggs ran the play just as they drew it up. The play was certainly to take down the QB to deter the read option, just as the monster hit from Williams on the QB got Bradford's attention on another play. Yes, both plays were to get both in Bradford's head and body. However, they went on to say what a dirty player Suggs is and always has been, which of course invited a barrage of callers to pile on some serious Suggs bashing comments, which was a great invitation to Philly fans to join the festivities. For 2 local sports commentators to go beyond stating an opinion and instead declare as a fact that they were certain of Suggs' intention to injure and possibly end Bradford's career was far worse than anything the Eagles players or Chip Kelly had to say. Since our coaches had just had press conferences saying that Suggs executed the play exactly as planned, their blasting comments open a serious door that Suggs, and perhaps the coaches could have been intentionally headhunting with the intent to injure another player and that the contact with the knees could not possibly have been incidental. The implications of making definitive statements about the ill-intent of Suggs, and by extension the coaches who supported the execution of the play as designed, made me upset. Perhaps I am wrong, but I was left with the impression that they were maybe stirring the pot to generate controversy on a slow news day at the expense of the reputations of Suggs and the Ravens organization? This went beyond trying to portray themselves as above the "homer" mentality as "neutral" local experts. Perhaps there is an hidden agenda I am unaware of, but, for whatever reason, I felt it was a biased and unfair attack upon Suggs and the Ravens organization, especially after coaches explained and vocally supported Suggs on that play. All I know is I lost a lot of respect for both Vinnie and Rob yesterday and I felt that they really crossed the line. Does this make anybody else mad besides me?"

 

I agree too. A Baltimore radio station for O's games throwing Suggs under the bus? Wow. Hope O's and Ravens will disassociate themselves from Vinny and Rob. Someone posted this on Vinny and Rob's FB page yesterday - "Vinny just put flags on the qb if you don't want then to get hit,it's sad skip Bayless stuck up for 55 n u didn't"  I never thought I would see the day that Skip Bayless would defend Suggs while a Baltimore radio station disparages Suggs. smh

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Thanks to Mom Gene for reposting my "get this off my chest" lengthy comment regarding Vinny and Rob calling Suggs a dirty player and that he intentionally took a cheap shot to injure Bradford, etc. Just to follow up, I emailed Dave Labrozzi from CBS/105.7 with my dissatisfaction and he sent me a return e mail thanking me for bringing these on the air comments to his attention. I couldn't believe my ears listening to the broadcast which couldn't have reflected worse upon the character of Suggs and the integrity of the Ravens organization. Anyway, Dave said he would talk to both sportscasters tomorrow so if I hear anything further, I will let everybody know.

 

Good job, thanks. Keep us posted on outcome. 

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I bet the Eagles coach the same thing, high schools coach the same thing, colleges coach the same thing. The read option is a tricky play, and it can be a hard play to stop if you don't do things to contain it. One of the best ways to do that is to make sure the other team understands how much harm they put the QB in front of every time he takes on the role of "runner" instead of "passer." In Suggs' and almost every NFL DE/OLBs mind, going after the QB on every read option play is the best case scenario. You either get a TFL, a sack, or a good hit on the most important player of the offense that will make the OC think twice about running it again. That is the risk you run as an offense when you run the read option. For the Eagles to put Bradford's knees in that position during a preseason game is the biggest mystery here, bad call by Chip Kelly but instead of owning up to it he deflects blame to the Ravens.

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In my e mail to Dave Labrozzi and cc'd to both Vinny and Rob, I told them that my original comments were moved over to this article and for them to read it, and perhaps your comments here. If you want to post your feelings or support on the matter in comments, there is a good chance that Dave from CBS/105.7 and Vinny and Rob will either read it or hear about it from above. Although I feel that Vinny and Rob were disrespectful and irresponsible in their comments, I hope the fans here can respectfully let our feelings be known on the matter to 105.7. At least there will be the opportunity for Ravens fans to read about these 2 local sportscasters trashing our team worse than any opponent or member of the national media.

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Best way to Tune out Vinny and Rob, is to turn the station. If the tackle was on a running back its a non issue. In the Read-Option the QB becomes a running back, So this is a NON issue.

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Bmoraven, if 105.7 continues this kind of nonsense, I agree that listeners will turn the station and 105.7 will drive away their own fan base. But, Rob and Vinny were not disputing whether the play was legal because they conceded that it was legal. Vinny and Rob were saying that Suggs had the explicit intent of not just trying to deter using this play with a hard hit on Bradford as a runner, but that Suggs is and has always been a dirty player and that his goal was to injure Bradford, perhaps end his season or career. That's stooping pretty low from our local media sportscasters.

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The Philly birds handed to us for most of the game. I love the way that Terrell plays with intensity!

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Suggs: play clean and mean. You have a profound ability to lead this team on and off the field. The Super Bowl march is to your cadence - be the model Raven - all eyes are on you.

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I've watched too many Ravens games and Suggs did exactly what your supposed to do, that's the end man's responsibility on read option. If you've ever played football you would know this. Why should a guy get extra treatment just because he's injury prone?

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I like the way Suggs addressed these questions. I would hope that it fires up the defense for the season. Bring 'em together and want to back up their leader. Also fire 'em up to play 'Ravens defense'. Add to that what Harbs said about other fan bases not liking our players such as Lewis and Reed. I'd be proud to play on a Ravens D.

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Thanks to Mom Gene for reposting my "get this off my chest" lengthy comment regarding Vinny and Rob calling Suggs a dirty player and that he intentionally took a cheap shot to injure Bradford, etc. Just to follow up, I emailed Dave Labrozzi from CBS/105.7 with my dissatisfaction and he sent me a return e mail thanking me for bringing these on the air comments to his attention. I couldn't believe my ears listening to the broadcast which couldn't have reflected worse upon the character of Suggs and the integrity of the Ravens organization. Anyway, Dave said he would talk to both sportscasters tomorrow so if I hear anything further, I will let everybody know.

Didn't hear the show but was ready to stop tuning in. Great follow through and plz let us know if you hear anything else

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As far as I am concerned, this is a whole lot of biased over-reacting by Philadelphia and NFL fans who hate anything Ravens/Suggs. I love the drumbeat Suggs set with his comments. It is nothing but a call to his defense to get on board. Teams hate to see Suggs. They gameplan for him. But they know, also, that they would love him as a teammate.

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Read option QBs are destined to go on injured reserve. Especially a rag-doll like Bradford. They give you a TON of rule protection dropping back and being in the pocket. You go outside of that and you're looking for trouble.

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Thanks for comment Mom Gene & Salamander. I still don't really care if there was intent or not...he's not our quarterback and Suggs was not in the wrong. To be honest, he probably did Chip & Bradford a favor by giving them a reality check.

 

I think the local radio hosts are clowns anyway...just goes to show their intentions, but I guess everyone has the right to their opinion.

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Salamander posted this earlier in another thread...  Gotta say, I agree...

 

"I need to get this off my chest. I was listening to the Vinnie and Rob show on 105.7 yesterday. Both of them were saying that Suggs definitely took a purposeful cheap shot at Bradford, specifically targeting his knees. Beyond that, they both said that Suggs had the intention of injuring Bradford to possibly take him out for the season. These comments come on the heels of Harbaugh and several coaches meeting with the press to say that Suggs ran the play just as they drew it up. The play was certainly to take down the QB to deter the read option, just as the monster hit from Williams on the QB got Bradford's attention on another play. Yes, both plays were to get both in Bradford's head and body. However, they went on to say what a dirty player Suggs is and always has been, which of course invited a barrage of callers to pile on some serious Suggs bashing comments, which was a great invitation to Philly fans to join the festivities. For 2 local sports commentators to go beyond stating an opinion and instead declare as a fact that they were certain of Suggs' intention to injure and possibly end Bradford's career was far worse than anything the Eagles players or Chip Kelly had to say. Since our coaches had just had press conferences saying that Suggs executed the play exactly as planned, their blasting comments open a serious door that Suggs, and perhaps the coaches could have been intentionally headhunting with the intent to injure another player and that the contact with the knees could not possibly have been incidental. The implications of making definitive statements about the ill-intent of Suggs, and by extension the coaches who supported the execution of the play as designed, made me upset. Perhaps I am wrong, but I was left with the impression that they were maybe stirring the pot to generate controversy on a slow news day at the expense of the reputations of Suggs and the Ravens organization? This went beyond trying to portray themselves as above the "homer" mentality as "neutral" local experts. Perhaps there is an hidden agenda I am unaware of, but, for whatever reason, I felt it was a biased and unfair attack upon Suggs and the Ravens organization, especially after coaches explained and vocally supported Suggs on that play. All I know is I lost a lot of respect for both Vinnie and Rob yesterday and I felt that they really crossed the line. Does this make anybody else mad besides me?"

I think that Baltimore fans, the Ravens organization and the players deserve better than over the top, attention seeking antics of media members who so readily and unfairly hurt the reputations of individual players and their local teams. I will say that, at 1 point, Rob told Vinny and the thousands of fans, "Vinny, you just hate Suggs", which of course Vinny denied. Vinny, how can you even deny that? Rather that act like they know the "intent" of a player such as Suggs as deliberately "intending" to hurt Bradford and take him out, they would be better off examining their own "intentions" which lead them to incite controversy and damage reputations on matters clearly worthy of support for their local team. Rob and Vinny, please knock it off. Nobody is impressed or enlightened with this kind of malicious and/or reckless foolishness.

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I always said the Sports show host in this town are the worst in football and in baseball. They all have to fill every second of air time with their voice. Go watch/hear a Pirate game you'll see the difference.

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Looked like he was aiming for a 'wrap' Tackle on the hips.... Gosh He cant help it if Bradford fell 'away' from that hit...making it appear as if Suggs had aimed 'low'

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I will always remember Suggs and the fans during the playoff game in Denver. He said then they were the "bad guy". Love it.

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