[News] Ravens Need Production From Raw Rookie Carl Davis

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Defensive tackle Carl Davis is still getting up to speed fast, but his potential has coaches excited.

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[Drew P]

Was it announced what their going to assign Urban as?

[Krabcake]

I'll admit it... I didn't know who he was when we drafted him- but I sure hope we find out soon.

[djk987]

Was it announced what their going to assign Urban as?

Not yet!

[Flamengo1265]

How about Perriman?  Is he going on IR or what?

[aaronmicah]

Yuuuuup. Just like I said weeks ago during that poll. Davis will have the most opportunities to make the most impact out of this rookie class. Dude is gonna be a freaking monster. I like perriman a lot and obviously I'm no guru...but that guy has missed 9 practices cause he fell on his knee diving for a pass? Does not bode well...not gonna lie. He's gonna have to toughen up or we're looking at another Elam all over again.

[KidNme]

I hear what you're saying @aaronmicah but it's hard to make that evaluation when we don't know for sure, why he has missed 9 practices. He could be yelling at the coaches that he wants to be in there and the doctors/trainers could be telling them there's no rush and to be extra careful just because we can. I can't throw the man under the bus just yet, we have to see how it all pans out first. However, in the back of my mind, if I can walk, I'm lying, cheating and conniving my way onto that field! I'd be waiting outside Harb's office, first thing every morning, doing Pilates in the hall as he comes in but that's just me :-)

[aaronmicah]

@kidnme, sure. Like I said I'm no trainer or football guru. I have no more insight to the extent of this situatuon than you or me. But I do understand the value of practice and good reciever form. And he has missed a butt load. All I'm saying is, at this point I'd put all my stock in davis over perriman. In terms of a player who has the best chances of contributing the most to this franchise this season.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

If Carl Davis comes on as the Ravens think he can then we'll have a nice group to rotate out across the front 3 if they all stay healthy. Brandon Williams is probably the only true Nose Tackle we have. Despite how large Davis is, he doesn't play like a mauler and pile mover. He's more of a gasher like Jernigan is. That's not a bad thing. He could play DE for a few plays and then on pass rushing downs he could slide over to DT. You have Jernigan playing the LDT, and then veteran Chris Canty is probably going to get snaps at RE. Behind them you've got Carl Davis who can move into NT on pass rushing downs and share reps with Canty, Lawrence Guy who is probably a bit more like Canty at RE, Steven Means who is a "Tweener" as he's a bit too big for an OLB, but a bit too small for a DE, especially a 3-4 DE...and he's a pass rusher. There is Kapron Lewis-Moore and honestly I don't know what his style is because he's never been on the field for me to see him, but the Ravens love his potential. There's Christo Bilukidi who is probably most well suited to be the back up NT...and THEN we've still got DeAngelo Tyson who's shown some flashes. Then there are some camp body that has some beef Micajah Reynolds, and the long and lean DE Zach Thompson. There is no way all of these guys make the roster. I could see the Ravens carrying 6 DL. You know 3 of them are Canty, Williams, and Jernigan. Who are your next top three?

[ellicottraven]

Carl Davis will shine in spots and that's all the Ravens need from him. Limited snaps but great play!

[Bandit666]

A 3rd round pick with 1st round potential, what a steal. Can't wait to see him Thurs. night. The only focus and talk about Perriman is he can't get on the field.

[Rasenshuriken84]

well i can see Davis being a good run stuffer just like Ngata. the kid is huge he's a planet out there. if he can give us 2-4 sacks a year that would help replace the production was giving us in recent years.

[Halshayeji]

If Carl Davis comes on as the Ravens think he can then we'll have a nice group to rotate out across the front 3 if they all stay healthy. Brandon Williams is probably the only true Nose Tackle we have. Despite how large Davis is, he doesn't play like a mauler and pile mover. He's more of a gasher like Jernigan is. That's not a bad thing. He could play DE for a few plays and then on pass rushing downs he could slide over to DT. You have Jernigan playing the LDT, and then veteran Chris Canty is probably going to get snaps at RE. Behind them you've got Carl Davis who can move into NT on pass rushing downs and share reps with Canty, Lawrence Guy who is probably a bit more like Canty at RE, Steven Means who is a "Tweener" as he's a bit too big for an OLB, but a bit too small for a DE, especially a 3-4 DE...and he's a pass rusher. There is Kapron Lewis-Moore and honestly I don't know what his style is because he's never been on the field for me to see him, but the Ravens love his potential. There's Christo Bilukidi who is probably most well suited to be the back up NT...and THEN we've still got DeAngelo Tyson who's shown some flashes. Then there are some camp body that has some beef Micajah Reynolds, and the long and lean DE Zach Thompson. There is no way all of these guys make the roster. I could see the Ravens carrying 6 DL. You know 3 of them are Canty, Williams, and Jernigan. Who are your next top three?

1 thumbs up doesn't give your comment justice. Very well said brother.

I personally hated losing Ngata but after it all sunk in I kind of like what we have. Williams was a first round talent but came from a small school and needed some polishing. This is year 3 for him and he should play like a first rounder for the next few years. Jernigan was a first round talent but fell to us because of off field issues. Year two could be his break out year and he could play like a first rounder sooner than later. Davis is also a first round talent but fell so far in the draft because this class was littered with D linemen. If he can get upto speed and beat out canty by mid season then we have a solid front 3. Canty is not gonna make a pro bowl but is a solid NFL starter when healthy. If he is beat out by the youngsters the im satisfied. That would also help preserve his legs for a playoff run. Bilukidi and Guy are not starter material but are solid 5 and 6 on the depth chart. Then KLM is the wildcard that I hope can find his way to help himself and the team. Another wildcard is Upshaw who I believe will get a chance to prove his worth on passing downs as a DE and specific packages.

No one on this roster can replace Ngata anytime soon but as a unit I think they are more than capable to offset his loss and free up the pass rushers outside. Let's just pray the guys stay healthy.

[MYTH420]

Davis will get plenty of snaps this year. I think we carry 8 DL. Williams, Jernigan, and Cantu will be your starters. Davis, Tyson, and Guy should be your backups. With Lewis-Moore and Means rounding out the group. The only guy left is Bilikudi and I don't think he makes the team. You'd have to get rid of Tyson or Lewis-Moore to free up a space, and both of those guys are better. Tyson has looked very good in spots, and holds his own. The team wants KLM so they can see what he can do, he's looked great in camp, last year and this year. With Urban out, I think Means gets his spot. Means is a DE, Bilikudi is a middle man, that's why he'd have to beat out one of the DTs. Not to mention cutting Bilikudi will save you around 1 million in Cap Space.

[Willbacker]

Our DLine rotation are a bunch of battering rams.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

1 thumbs up doesn't give your comment justice. Very well said brother.

I personally hated losing Ngata but after it all sunk in I kind of like what we have. Williams was a first round talent but came from a small school and needed some polishing. This is year 3 for him and he should play like a first rounder for the next few years. Jernigan was a first round talent but fell to us because of off field issues. Year two could be his break out year and he could play like a first rounder sooner than later. Davis is also a first round talent but fell so far in the draft because this class was littered with D linemen. If he can get upto speed and beat out canty by mid season then we have a solid front 3. Canty is not gonna make a pro bowl but is a solid NFL starter when healthy. If he is beat out by the youngsters the im satisfied. That would also help preserve his legs for a playoff run. Bilukidi and Guy are not starter material but are solid 5 and 6 on the depth chart. Then KLM is the wildcard that I hope can find his way to help himself and the team. Another wildcard is Upshaw who I believe will get a chance to prove his worth on passing downs as a DE and specific packages.

No one on this roster can replace Ngata anytime soon but as a unit I think they are more than capable to offset his loss and free up the pass rushers outside. Let's just pray the guys stay healthy.

 

Thanks for that reply and to your point about Upshaw I posted in another thread that he could possibly see time at DE as well since the Ravens already have Suggs and Dumervil at OLB, plus they like Zadarius Smith who is supposedly putting on a clinic in camp. We'll see once he lines up on the field and plays in game time situations. I also think Steven Means will flip flop between DE/OLB and he's a guy you could carry as a back up because he could be a special teamer too. None of our other D-Linemen would be good special teams candidates. Something the Ravens have always loved are versatile players. Adalius Thomas was the king of that and lined up all over the place. DT/DE/ OLB/ MLB and he even played some snaps at safety.

 

There is that saying, "Deep Depth." We got that in our D-Line rotation for sure. I am hesitating to say that about the linebacking group because I don't see a lot at MLB behind Smith and Mosley. Arthur Brown has failed to step up. As long as they all stay healthy I like our depth at corner this year. Losing Matt Elam hurt the safety group but I think what we still have left is okay. Too bad we're not going to have Brooks as well. I like Anthony Levine and think he will be a good back up, after that I am not too sure about Trawick. The guy they brought in as an UDFA...Nick Perry I think his name is, is supposedly having a good camp.

[KingRaven(IA)]

Another Iowa product turned Raven. I love it! He was a steal in the 3rd Rd. Should have a solid rookie season contributing to the DL and sky is limit for his career.