Lerron Mcclain

[Shadowalker]

I was hoping someone else would post this but Lerron Mcclain has a fumbling problem! Ive watched him all year and its safe to say hes got a fumbling problem and Im starting to get worried every time he makes a "wiggle". Did anyone watch him in Alabama if he had any preexisting issues?

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='Shadowalker' post='120879' date='Jan 6 2009, 02:22 AM']I was hoping someone else would post this but Lerron Mcclain has a fumbling problem! Ive watched him all year and its safe to say hes got a fumbling problem and Im starting to get worried every time he makes a "wiggle". Did anyone watch him in Alabama if he had any preexisting issues?[/quote]

First off u have to understand that u are talking about a FB that has been converted to a RB for the first time. He didn't carry the ball much in Alabama. Only about 35 carries or so. I know it is easy to think of him as a RB because he carries the ball so much, but truth is he is still a FB, he's just good enough to carry the ball 20-25 times a game. Give him a full offseason to get comfortable with the idea of being a RB and if he still has a problem with fumbling then we should worry. As of now you just have to strap up and go along for the ride, take the good with the bad and whatever happens.....happens.

[codizzle]

yep i agree with ravens 23 ... he's a fb converted . we got give him time to get used to having the rock

[a fightin'titan]

Well Albert Hanyseworth and Kyle Vanden Bosch will be playing this game so he better be holding on tight.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='a fightin'titan' post='120886' date='Jan 6 2009, 03:01 AM']Well Albert Hanyseworth and Kyle Vanden Bosch will be playing this game so he better be holding on tight.[/quote]

I think those two should first worry about those injuries holding up to a consistent pounding. Secondly Le'Ron is not a fumbler, not at first glance anyway. I think you guys should hope Vanden Bosch and Hanyseworth will make the tackle because it he gets to your secondary it will be a long day for your DB's.

[52Kia Kaha92]

yea and VDbosch might not play and haynesworth is wearing a protective brace so they aint 100% so we get past them and Michael Griffin will have nightmares for years to come lol

but yeas Brandon Jacobs looked like it last year and this year he looks better running and does not fumble much, i hope Leron turns out like BJ too

[H8R]

Haynesworth is the most over rated player in the game IMO. I lost all respect for him after the stomping incident. I'd put Haloti ahead of him, and feel he is more athletic. Was Haynesworth a factor in our last game? McClain has dropped the rock a few times this year, but so has McGahee and Rice. McClain is our most consistent back and does a good job of pounding guys so that we can open things up a bit more in the second half. The McClain train will be running FULL SPEED AHEAD. I think, LeRon will have a big game!

[ravensgirlx88]

No RB is perfect when it comes to fumbling. At least he isn't nearly as bad as Adrian Peterson when it comes to this problem. You have to remember defenders are constantly looking for that ball to bat it down. I agree its something he needs to clean up on but I think we'll see him improve. Lets no forget hes a FB not a RB and it might take some time for him to officialy grow into the role. No player is perfect.. but Lerron has pulled thru(as well as Mcgahee) when we've needed him most.

[JonM229]

McLain doesn't have a minimum of one fumble per game like Jamal Lewis did.

[ravensgirlx88]

[quote name='JonM229' post='120923' date='Jan 6 2009, 09:33 AM']McLain doesn't have a minimum of one fumble per game like Jamal Lewis did.[/quote]


Very good point. & His "fumbles" have yet to be returned by the other team for a TD

[PuRock]

[quote name='a fightin'titan' post='120886' date='Jan 6 2009, 03:01 AM']Well Albert Hanyseworth and Kyle Vanden Bosch will be playing this game so he better be holding on tight.[/quote]

Does anyone know if Ray Rice will be back this game? He could possibly pose as a better threat against a big D line like this. Perhaps he could be the Sproles of playoff week 2.

Either way if the score is close. We will be tiring out the Titans D line by the amount we run.

[3Zach21]

[quote name='PuRock' post='120977' date='Jan 6 2009, 10:45 AM']Does anyone know if Ray Rice will be back this game? He could possibly pose as a better threat against a big D line like this. Perhaps he could be the Sproles of playoff week 2.

Either way if the score is close. We will be tiring out the Titans D line by the amount we run.[/quote]

he'll be ready. I know they always do say it, but they said Rice could of played last week, but we didnt put him in because we didnt need to.

[svt2nv04]

Good, can't wait to Rice back in. I like to see all three running and running good.

[3Zach21]

[quote name='svt2nv04' post='121004' date='Jan 6 2009, 11:03 AM']Good, can't wait to Rice back in. I like to see all three running and running good.[/quote]

YUp, got to watch out for our 3- headed -- monster. We should see a heavy dose of this week with the Titans D, and mix some play action in.

[Shadowalker]

Personally I think a healthy Ray Rice would be our best option against the titans. I think his cutback speed and his quickness can wear the titans front down.

[neepo13]

Leron has only lost one fumble prior to that on Sunday. Thats less then our "feature back", even last year. I wouldnt worry about. Besides if I am not mistaken, atleast 3 of his 4 "fumbles" came in one game.

[neepo13]

[quote name='Shadowalker' post='121108' date='Jan 6 2009, 01:41 PM']Personally I think a healthy Ray Rice would be our best option against the titans. I think his cutback speed and his quickness can wear the titans front down.[/quote]

I think we should use all 3 of them. Use Rice on the screens, thats where we miss him the most. Then use Leron and Lo Neal to pound at them. And then McGahee can reap the benefit at the end of the game.

[itscbm5042]

O Line listen to me. GO FOR THE LEGS! Take Fat Albert and KVB out of the game. They have had lower body injuries, if they can knock their legs out from under them they will be a non-factor.

[Purple Punishment]

McClain will be fine, so will McGahee, and will Rice! I cant wait to see our O running on all cylinders!

[a fightin'titan]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' post='120888' date='Jan 6 2009, 02:10 AM']I think those two should first worry about those injuries holding up to a consistent pounding. Secondly Le'Ron is not a fumbler, not at first glance anyway. I think you guys should hope Vanden Bosch and Hanyseworth will make the tackle because it he gets to your secondary it will be a long day for your DB's.[/quote]


From what I have been reading they will both be healthy and on the practice field this week. Vanden Bosch has had this groin injury nagging him from week 4 and hasn't put together a full game since then. However both he and Hanyesworth are said to be healthy considering they both have had a full month off.


[quote name='52Kia Kaha92' post='120894' date='Jan 6 2009, 03:17 AM']yea and VDbosch might not play and haynesworth is wearing a protective brace so they aint 100% so we get past them and Michael Griffin will have nightmares for years to come lol[/quote]

LIke I said above both will play.


[quote name='H8R' post='120906' date='Jan 6 2009, 06:31 AM']Haynesworth is the most over rated player in the game IMO. I lost all respect for him after the stomping incident. I'd put Haloti ahead of him, and feel he is more athletic. Was Haynesworth a factor in our last game? McClain has dropped the rock a few times this year, but so has McGahee and Rice. McClain is our most consistent back and does a good job of pounding guys so that we can open things up a bit more in the second half. The McClain train will be running FULL SPEED AHEAD. I think, LeRon will have a big game![/quote]

Haynesworth is anything from overrated. And yes the "stomping incident" was brutal. However since then he seems to have turned over a new leaf. Whether this is due to contract years ( we franchised tag his last year ) or him realizing that he was on thin ice he has cleaned up. And over the past couple years his game has improved dramatically, so if you were a fan then and stopped watching him you will be impressed. He blows up the offensive line nearly every play and therefore makes everyone around him that much better. I really like Ngata and would love to have him on the team but wouldn't trade Haynesworth for anyone.


[quote name='PuRock' post='120977' date='Jan 6 2009, 09:45 AM']Does anyone know if Ray Rice will be back this game? He could possibly pose as a better threat against a big D line like this. Perhaps he could be the Sproles of playoff week 2.

Either way if the score is close. We will be tiring out the Titans D line by the amount we run.[/quote]

Yes I agree with this. Our defense tends to do better against the bigger, more powerful backs. It is the smaller speedy backs that tend to rip decent gains on us. And as far as wearing our d line down, I don't think that will happen and maybe the opposite. I remember [b]your[/b] defense coming out flat in the fourth. I say we won't wear down because we have really really good depth the whole way through our d line. Check the Pittsburgh game. Neither Vanden Bosch nor Haynesworth played and we were all up in that backfield.




Question: I have been wondering for some time now why McClain has what seems to be the starting role over McGahee. Was it due to injury and McClain just never lost it since? Or did he just outplay him? It seems he still gets plenty more carries than McGahee and I don't know why.

[bce086]

[quote name='a fightin'titan' post='121141' date='Jan 6 2009, 02:13 PM']Question: I have been wondering for some time now why McClain has what seems to be the starting role over McGahee. Was it due to injury and McClain just never lost it since? Or did he just outplay him? It seems he still gets plenty more carries than McGahee and I don't know why.[/quote]

Combination of the following...

Lack of effort/attendance in training camp (Coaches doghouse?)
Leron's stepped it up (Don't change whats working)
Recurring Injuries with McGahee (Hasn't really been 100% all season)
3 Headed Monster (Rice Mcgahee and Leron all getting carries)

[wolfzie06]

I think McClain holds on to the ball pretty well. He has only fumbled it a few times this year I believe, and he is a converted FB. He didn't run the ball as much at Alabama as you think, and he holds the ball pretty tight to his body.

[Sub-Zero]

[quote name='wolfzie06' post='121225' date='Jan 6 2009, 12:47 PM']I think McClain holds on to the ball pretty well. He has only fumbled it a few times this year I believe, and he is a converted FB. He didn't run the ball as much at Alabama as you think, and he holds the ball pretty tight to his body.[/quote]
im going by memory here, but I think most of his fumbles came from holding the ball away from his body whether he is navigating for a hole or carrying it through traffic.

[PurpleClawsOfFURY]

[quote name='a fightin'titan' post='121141' date='Jan 6 2009, 02:13 PM']. I remember [b]your[/b] defense coming out flat in the fourth.[/quote]

I remember our defense stopping you guys on 3rd down and the referee didn't like that we were going to win so he through a flag for touching the quarterback. I'm sorry for bringing that up but it's happened to me in a football game and we didn't play well after and gave up the score and lost the game.

[MJSMOOTH]

[quote name='codizzle' post='120883' date='Jan 6 2009, 02:47 AM']yep i agree with ravens 23 ... he's a fb converted . we got give him time to get used to having the rock[/quote] I don't think albert playing

[Mobtown]

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[BuckWilds]

[quote name='a fightin'titan' post='120886' date='Jan 6 2009, 03:01 AM']Well Albert Hanyseworth and Kyle Vanden Bosch will be playing this game so he better be holding on tight.[/quote]

And those two better buckle up their chinstraps.


Edit: Oh, and to be sure, referees wore down the Ravens D more than anything else in the first meeting.

[Ravensfan23]

[b][quote name='a fightin'titan' post='121141' date='Jan 6 2009, 02:13 PM']From what I have been reading they will both be healthy and on the practice field this week. Vanden Bosch has had this groin injury nagging him from week 4 and hasn't put together a full game since then. However both he and Hanyesworth are said to be healthy considering they both have had a full month off. [/b]




LIke I said above both will play.




Haynesworth is anything from overrated. And yes the "stomping incident" was brutal. However since then he seems to have turned over a new leaf. Whether this is due to contract years ( we franchised tag his last year ) or him realizing that he was on thin ice he has cleaned up. And over the past couple years his game has improved dramatically, so if you were a fan then and stopped watching him you will be impressed. He blows up the offensive line nearly every play and therefore makes everyone around him that much better. I really like Ngata and would love to have him on the team but wouldn't trade Haynesworth for anyone.




Yes I agree with this. Our defense tends to do better against the bigger, more powerful backs. It is the smaller speedy backs that tend to rip decent gains on us. And as far as wearing our d line down, I don't think that will happen and maybe the opposite. I remember [b]your[/b] defense coming out flat in the fourth. I say we won't wear down because we have really really good depth the whole way through our d line. Check the Pittsburgh game. Neither Vanden Bosch nor Haynesworth played and we were all up in that backfield.




Question: I have been wondering for some time now why McClain has what seems to be the starting role over McGahee. Was it due to injury and McClain just never lost it since? Or did he just outplay him? It seems he still gets plenty more carries than McGahee and I don't know why.[/quote]



I'm sure they both will play, but to say they are healthy is just not true. Being able to play and being 100% healthy is two very different things. Them being off for a month will have a effect, How big? no one knows. As far as Ray Rice. I think Cam would be smart to get this kid the ball on some screens. If nothing more it will force Hanseyworth and Bosch to run to the ball instead of us allowing them to hold their ground and run right to them. Make them prove that they are healthy enough to withstand 60 mintues of football. Then we should try to get him match up one on one with those aggressive LBs of the Titans. This Kid could have a huge impact on this game if given the opportunity.