Can Perriman be our first 1000 yard rookie receiver?

[1/28/01]

Weeks away still, ugh!

[BmoreBird22]

In a way, it's almost fitting that he's out so long. It just furthers the notion that Ozzie has terrible luck with receivers

[Ravens2343]

In a way, it's almost fitting that he's out so long. It just furthers the notion that Ozzie has terrible luck with receivers

 

Yeah its just the way the season and Ozzie's history with receivers have gone.  I wish the Ravens would have just placed him on IR already and give him all the time he needs to come back and eliminating all the speculation on when he could return.  I just hope Ozzie signs a good veteran receiver and takes one high in the draft, they have to operate as if Perriman is not even on the team.

[PurpleCity5]

This is madness.

[CorvusCorax]

One thing will be nice to have is to be able to rotate deep threats. We have Givens now and with Perriman in the mix (hopefully soon), things will open up for us even more as teams will HAVE to respect our deep ball on a more consistent basis.

Edited November 4, 2015 by CorvusCorax

[52520Andrew]

Week to week still. I have tried defending the guy but this whole situation is just ridiculous

[GrimCoconut]

Week to week still. I have tried defending the guy but this whole situation is just ridiculous

I can't agree more. I defended him since day one but I lost faith in him a week or two ago, I think. How can you be out this long with a PCL sprain? I work as a nurse at Union Memorial and I've never seen this kind of recovery

[Tru11]

Yeah its just the way the season and Ozzie's history with receivers have gone.  I wish the Ravens would have just placed him on IR already and give him all the time he needs to come back and eliminating all the speculation on when he could return.  I just hope Ozzie signs a good veteran receiver and takes one high in the draft, they have to operate as if Perriman is not even on the team.

 

you think its wise to take another WR high given his luck drafting WRs?

[BmoreBird22]

you think its wise to take another WR high given his luck drafting WRs?

Have to hit one eventually, right?

[Ravens2343]

you think its wise to take another WR high given his luck drafting WRs?

 

Have to hit one eventually, right?

 

Perriman's injury is an anomaly, usually Ozzie strikes out on receivers because he waits until the middle rounds to take them.  We have to get a dynamic playmaker early in the draft with someone like Boyd, Coleman or Dural.  Sign a proven veteran aswell and hope SSS and Perriman both return healthy to add to it.

[Moderator 3]

you think its wise to take another WR high given his luck drafting WRs?

  

Have to hit one eventually, right?

Well, we finally had some success with a WR wearing #89, so anything is possible.

[Tru11]

Have to hit one eventually, right?

 

true, it took the lions 4 round 1 top 10 picks spend on WR in 5 years to get calvin johnson.

 

i guess you can say it worked out well for them lol

[Tru11]

  

Well, we finally had some success with a WR wearing #89, so anything is possible.

 

well i dont think that falls under drafting lol

 

i actually prefer getting those veteran guys from FA.

at least you know what you are getting.

 

i for 1 aint looking forward to spending a lot of high picks on1 position in the hope to land a star.

i prefer in that case to spend that pick on whoever is the best player regardless of position.

[Tru11]

Perriman's injury is an anomaly, usually Ozzie strikes out on receivers because he waits until the middle rounds to take them.  We have to get a dynamic playmaker early in the draft with someone like Boyd, Coleman or Dural.  Sign a proven veteran aswell and hope SSS and Perriman both return healthy to add to it.

 

its not that he waits though.

 

its more like how the board falls in to place.

 

he will take 1 if 1 is there that is the highest on his board.

or 1 starts to drop and that players get to a spot he can trade up to and get it.

 

i doubt he is ever going to sell the house to get 1 guy.

thats the fastest way to set the franchise back lol

[FastEddie]

Yea well, all in all I hope the FO wasn't planning on BP to be our next #1. I liked what I saw from him coming out of school, but basically just reminded me of a Torrey Smith upgrade as a deep threat. Who knows though honestly, it would be very cool if this guy could evolve his route running to get seperation and YAC....but time will tell and that's all we can do.

 

Not huge on the idea of taking a WR early in the draft unless it's a guaranteed home run. I prefer the old school methodology where defense is king.

 

Bring on Ramsey/Hargreaves...THANKS

[edthehead]

What ever we have in peeriman if we are drafting early we need a top WR, if Peeriman works out and if camp stays healthy(I know it's a lot of and) we would have a chance , 

[Ravens2343]

its not that he waits though.

 

its more like how the board falls in to place.

 

he will take 1 if 1 is there that is the highest on his board.

or 1 starts to drop and that players get to a spot he can trade up to and get it.

 

i doubt he is ever going to sell the house to get 1 guy.

thats the fastest way to set the franchise back lol

 

I agree that selling the house for one guy is not a good strategy, but that's not what I am implying we do.  Hindsight is 20-20 looking back on the results now.  But the Ravens have passed on numerous receivers the last few years who could have been had in rounds 2-3 that turned out to be good.  I am all for BPA because it has worked so far, but sooner or later we have to add wide receiver talent and that may result in us reaching a little for a certain guy.

[arnie_uk]

I can't agree more. I defended him since day one but I lost faith in him a week or two ago, I think. How can you be out this long with a PCL sprain? I work as a nurse at Union Memorial and I've never seen this kind of recovery

which one is the pcl?

I had a grade 1 tear on the outside one playing rugby, took couple weeks off, came back, after a couple weeks hurt it again, took 4 weeks off, doing strengthening exercises and have came back. Its still sore every now and then, can't squat as low yet, but I can play rugby, sprint full speed, step of that leg.

So I had about 6 weeks with it. If that's the same one

[K-Dog]

What I want to know is, what is the determining factor?

Is it pain and discomfort or is there some sort of medical evaluation saying "go or no go" ?

[GrimCoconut]

which one is the pcl?

I had a grade 1 tear on the outside one playing rugby, took couple weeks off, came back, after a couple weeks hurt it again, took 4 weeks off, doing strengthening exercises and have came back. Its still sore every now and then, can't squat as low yet, but I can play rugby, sprint full speed, step of that leg.

So I had about 6 weeks with it. If that's the same one

ACL is an anterior cruciate ligament, PCL is a posterior cruciate ligament, MCL is a medial cruciate ligament, and an LCL is a lateral cruciate ligament. The ACL, PCL & LCL all connect the femur to the tibia. The femur is your thigh bone and the tibia is commonly called the shin. The MCL connects the femur to the fibula.

It sounds like you're describing the LCL or maybe the MCL. By outside what do you mean? What side of your knee was it, the side of your knee facing your other knee (medial MCL) or the side that doesn't face the other knee(lateral LCL)?

Anyway, those are admittedly easier to recover from because the ACL & PCL are actually the more unstable of the two and also the more frequently injured.

[Tru11]

I agree that selling the house for one guy is not a good strategy, but that's not what I am implying we do.  Hindsight is 20-20 looking back on the results now.  But the Ravens have passed on numerous receivers the last few years who could have been had in rounds 2-3 that turned out to be good.  I am all for BPA because it has worked so far, but sooner or later we have to add wide receiver talent and that may result in us reaching a little for a certain guy.

 

if we drafted them what guarantee do you have they would have turned out good here?

 

just because a players does good on 1 team does not mean they would do good here or anywhere else.

to many factors play are role to guarantee success.

 

there is really no telling that they would have developped here like in other places.

[Deflated Football]

if we drafted them what guarantee do you have they would have turned out good here?

 

just because a players does good on 1 team does not mean they would do good here or anywhere else.

to many factors play are role to guarantee success.

 

there is really no telling that they would have developped here like in other places.

You're just the resident devil's advocate aren't ya?

[Deflated Football]

What does "week to week" even mean and why can't we get a clear timetable for a return and why hasn't BP talked to the media and how does Harbaugh know only as much as the fans do? So many questions. 

[Tru11]

You're just the resident devil's advocate aren't ya?

 

sure why not

[Ravens2343]

if we drafted them what guarantee do you have they would have turned out good here?

 

just because a players does good on 1 team does not mean they would do good here or anywhere else.

to many factors play are role to guarantee success.

 

there is really no telling that they would have developped here like in other places.

 

That is true, every team and situation is different and they may not have worked out here.  But recent guys like Allen Robinson, Davante Adams, Donte Moncrief and Jordan Matthews were drafted outside of the first round and have performed quite well for their respective teams.  It would have been and would be nice in the future if we would take a gamble or two on some second or third round receivers to help Flacco out. 

 

It obviously makes no sense for me to argue that they would be good here because no one will ever know, but I surely would like to have any one of those players right now with our current situation as it is.

[Tru11]

That is true, every team and situation is different and they may not have worked out here.  But recent guys like Allen Robinson, Davante Adams, Donte Moncrief and Jordan Matthews were drafted outside of the first round and have performed quite well for their respective teams.  It would have been and would be nice in the future if we would take a gamble or two on some second or third round receivers to help Flacco out. 

 

It obviously makes no sense for me to argue that they would be good here because no one will ever know, but I surely would like to have any one of those players right now with our current situation as it is.

 

it would have been nice if we drafted aaron rodgers instead of mark clayton.

 

heck imagine we drafted tom brady in round 3 back in 2000 instead of chris redman and he came in to replace tony banks instead of trent dilfer.

 

would not had to waste money on grbac.

 

could have repeated a few times.

 

probably would have saved billick job lel.

hell probably would not had to suffer so much during the boller era.

[PurpleCity5]

What does "week to week" even mean and why can't we get a clear timetable for a return and why hasn't BP talked to the media and how does Harbaugh know only as much as the fans do? So many questions. 

Steve Smith was week-to-week with those micro-fractures if I could recall. Its not very often you'll see players graded as week-to-week, it usually means the players recovery table is on a weekly basis rather than a daily one. I think its positive news to see Perriman graded in a week-to-week basis, at least that'll shed likely hope he'll play this season. 

[Ravens2343]

it would have been nice if we drafted aaron rodgers instead of mark clayton.

 

heck imagine we drafted tom brady in round 3 back in 2000 instead of chris redman and he came in to replace tony banks instead of trent dilfer.

 

would not had to waste money on grbac.

 

could have repeated a few times.

 

probably would have saved billick job lel.

hell probably would not had to suffer so much during the boller era.

 

As I said hindsight is 20-20.  The point I am trying to make is we cannot keep taking wideouts in rounds 4-7 and expect them to turn into serviceable guys, it barely happens in this league.  We are one of the bottom teams in the league in terms of how small of an investment we make in the receiver position and it is starting to show. 

[Tru11]

As I said hindsight is 20-20.  The point I am trying to make is we cannot keep taking wideouts in rounds 4-7 and expect them to turn into serviceable guys, it barely happens in this league.  We are one of the bottom teams in the league in terms of how small of an investment we make in the receiver position and it is starting to show. 

 

the only point i see you and others are trying to make is that the FO should be like the lions and draft a WR in the 1st round untill they hit the jackpot.

 

you are not willing to accept that they have a strategy they stay true to.

 

if a WR is available at the spot they are picking and they have him rated the highest they will take him.

if a WR is slipping and he about to fall to a spot they can trade up to they will do it if they can.

they are not going to reach or sell the house like the falcons did.

 

they are not on purpose choosing not to draft a WR.

its a myth.

a very bad one.

 

when they evaluate players and make their draft board they dont have the luxury of hindsight to determine who should be taken when.

 

i remember this board slamming their hand on the table for jealen strong and how we should have taken him in round 1.

heck many here had him over marcus peters.

 

imagine if we had taken him in round 1 lol

[Wildabeast88]

Can we change the name of this thread to can Perriman be a rookie WR this year